Debate Vtuber simps about being pedophiles

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Denial, circular arguments, and lusting after depictions of children. That's all this thread will be. All salient points have been made, the same weak denials just get parroted back over and over again.

You do realize what you just said is pretty horrid right?

They're from a different world. They don't realise at all.

They are arguing that it isn t l*l*con but they all still love that shit. We know it, they know it (whether they admit it or not), it's a stupid debate.
 
Loli niggas really be like "You can't tell he's 45? He's literally drunk constantly and is a domestic terrorist. If you think he's a baby that says more about you than anything."
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If you don't see how they draw women to look prepubescent you are literally a faceblind autist which probably explains all the anime fans in general.
They do that a lot, however I don't think it's (just) because they're pedos. The Japanese are obsessed with cuteness, and that is reflected in Japanese artists' styles. Big eyes, bigger head and smaller body are all characteristics of prepubescent children as you said, and what do most people think children are? Cute.
This has been part of anime/manga 'culture' since it's beginning.
However, how much it affects character design depends on the authors' intent and style, so for series with a "moe" aesthetic, meant to be as cute as possible, they'll go overboard with these features.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is, the series' genre afects their character design a lot. A slice-of-life manga is more likely to have these characteristics than an action anime, but even if they do appear, it could be just to make the audience see a character as cute.
And, yes, they'll also add these to characters meant to be attractive because this 'cuteness culture' is so deeply engrained in Japan that being cute is considered part of the ideal woman over there.
But, obviously, that doesn't excuse them for lolishit or anything like that, I just wanted to inform you of a part of their culture that it seemed you didn't know. You can think this is because they're pedos or whatever other reason comes to mind, I have no idea as well.

TL;DR, the Japs are obsessed with cuteness to an unhealthy degree and that impacts their character design a lot.
 
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People aren't jerking their dicks to the adult behind the avatar, they are jerking their dicks to the little anime girl. Yeah no shit the porn is "drawn by adults" what kind of dumb argument is this? Is it not child porn if it's an adult behind the camera filming the kids? Try making that argument in front of a judge. Who the person producing the material is does not matter. You bring in strawman after strawman argument because you have nothing, lol.

>a good chunk of the Hololive girls are open lolicons and shotacons
>it's not a big deal to the fans

Hey at least you are admitting that there is a huge pedophile problem and everyone is aware of it and condoning it.
Huge pedophile problem because of some loli avatars? If that was the case then we gotta lock up millions of fans jerking it to v-tuber hentai. If there was an actual pedophile problem like real children being preyed upon, would you guys actually give a shit? It's seems like all you care about is the fictional porn which is weird. And if you really thought that Gura's swimsuit art was so sickening to you why'd you repost it for everyone else to see?

It's one thing to find them a bit creepy and I don't blame you, but this is a community majority made up of adults. Unless there's actual evidence of them doing real harm to actual children, then I can't really take you guys seriously. I've yet to have hear about some sort of major pedo ring somehow connected to v-tubers since it became mainstream. Yes, they have their own share of controversies but it has nothing to the stuff you're complaining about. They mostly have to deal with legitimate harassment if they say something about certain countries or if the fans find out they're dating somebody.
1. We have just been through, and you admitted yourself, that young pubescent girls can be "busty", so saying someone is "busty" and also a preteen is not mutually exclusive.
2. FACEBLIND. As in the FACE.
I don't have faceblindness if that's what you're implying. I mostly see that applied to real people if they can't remember who they are, but not characters. Maybe if you think certain characters look the same, but that has more so to do with their designs looking similar which can be easily changed depending on who's drawing them.

But you specifically said "women" and not "prepubescent girls" previously. So I thought you meant this in the context of adult women having a youthful face while having a fully mature body. But even then, I don't look at a grown ass woman and think, "she's a child" that's really fucking weird.
Very adult like

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If she's an adult her natural growth is as stunded as your mental development
I mean adults can be pretty short too and I'm not very tall myself, so it's not an impossibility. Plus the person behind her is an adult too so I don't see how this is an issue.
 
I mean adults can be pretty short too and I'm not very tall myself, so it's not an impossibility. Plus the person behind her is an adult too so I don't see how this is an issue.
Well you jerk to this

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and not this
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The Va behind the character does really matter?

-If you jerk off to an anime femboy with a big dick, you're straight since the va is a female?
-If you jerk off to an anime girl but the Va is male then you're gay?
-If you jerk off to an adult character but the Va is underage then you're a pedophile?

This doesn't make sense retard.
 
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You keep avoiding the actual discussion to make up strawman arguments and honestly you sound just like every other pedophile I have ever seen arguing about loli-porn on the internet, it's like you all read from the same pedo-bible and repeat the words back while completely ignoring anything that is being said to you in return. As soon as someone makes a good point against your argument you skip to the next chapter, from "what about this completely unrelated anime character?" to "I BET YOU DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT REAL CHILDREN!" it's so transparent. This isn't how you have a debate.
 
Gura and her fan base always kinda weirded me out. Particularly that one vid where she was playing that exercise game and making those panting and screaming noises. Kinda clear what the intention was. Then there’s the whole shipping her with other girls, particularly Amelia.

These V-Tubers really struck gold coming out when the lockdowns hit.
 
Well you jerk to this

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and not this
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The Va behind the character does really matter?

-If you jerk off to an anime femboy with a big dick, you're straight since the va is a female?
-If you jerk off to an anime girl but the Va is male then you're gay?
-If you jerk off to an adult character but the Va is underage then you're a pedophile?

This doesn't make sense retard.
I mean it does in this case despite the disconnect in between them. The woman behind Gura doesn't even state that she is a child in any way, just short. And since she does talk about adult topics a fair amount, the fans don't see her as a child. So if people jerk off to her avatar what consequences are there? Are we really going the thoughtcrime route? I don't even put this much logic behind being attracted to catgirls, good lord.

Is that why you became a furry troon that lusts after children?
Everyone who doesn't agree with me is a pedo troon, boo hoo!! Sorry, I have a sickness for busty women and muscular men who are taller than me. :story:

You keep avoiding the actual discussion to make up strawman arguments and honestly you sound just like every other pedophile I have ever seen arguing about loli-porn on the internet, it's like you all read from the same pedo-bible and repeat the words back while completely ignoring anything that is being said to you in return. As soon as someone makes a good point against your argument you skip to the next chapter, from "what about this completely unrelated anime character?" to "I BET YOU DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT REAL CHILDREN!" it's so transparent. This isn't how you have a debate.
Well you seem pretty dead set on calling me a or anyone else who doesn't agree with you a pedophile. You would rather dismiss the other person's point when they don't give you the reactions that you want. You never made any good points at all especially when you brought up art that Gura herself was using to promoting her streams. It doesn't show proof of any sort of pedophilia just seems like you're overreacting over someone's fictional character. I was hoping you'd have some proof of I don't know v-tubers or their fans grooming children or something?

I brought up other characters as an example and so did others because it was relevant to the discussion. You just don't want it to be because it pokes holes in your argument that not every short female character is a child. What's very clear to me is that you just want the high of being morally superior when you're anything but. I mean v-tubers are such an easy target right? They're totally pedophiles that give all their life savings to 20 year old women masquerading as anime girls so that they'll read their superchats. Weird sure, but it's the most inoffensive thing that people are doing regarding livestreams.

Plus during this whole debate I've never accused you of anything nor have I called you names have I? 🤔
 
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Arguing with someone like you who only brings up strawmen arguments is entirely pointless, it's honestly amazing how you can make so many TLDR posts without saying anything worthwhile. You already admitted that a lot of vtubers and their fans are lolicons/shotacons (aka pedophiles) and that you and the rest of the vtuber community has no issue with it. What else is there to say?
 
So you like cock. Troon arc incoming.

I notice you didn't deny being a furry.
If you google saffronettes name you'd see they're a 29 year old black rampant furry coomer CIS girl, just yet another kiwifarms user who does not follow the forum guidelines on privacy/security like the rest of the site.

It baffles me and annoys me that someone with a join year of 2018 could have such a blatant disconnect on what the rest of this site is like

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Apparently shes a well known sperg, seems to exclusively post about how giant huge tits like Uzaki-Chan's are totally natural and something you would totally see on a skinny asian girl

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(It's their Second Life avatar)
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I'm no expert, if all porn ceased to exist except for hentai you would jerk off to that?

That being said, if I'm wrong then I'm wrong.
Some people would, Most people would do it the old fashion way and close their eyes and think something dirty about a person they liked.
 
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Huge pedophile problem because of some loli avatars? If that was the case then we gotta lock up millions of fans jerking it to v-tuber hentai. If there was an actual pedophile problem like real children being preyed upon, would you guys actually give a shit? It's seems like all you care about is the fictional porn which is weird. And if you really thought that Gura's swimsuit art was so sickening to you why'd you repost it for everyone else to see?

It's one thing to find them a bit creepy and I don't blame you, but this is a community majority made up of adults. Unless there's actual evidence of them doing real harm to actual children, then I can't really take you guys seriously. I've yet to have hear about some sort of major pedo ring somehow connected to v-tubers since it became mainstream. Yes, they have their own share of controversies but it has nothing to the stuff you're complaining about. They mostly have to deal with legitimate harassment if they say something about certain countries or if the fans find out they're dating somebody.

But you specifically said "women" and not "prepubescent girls" previously. So I thought you meant this in the context of adult women having a youthful face while having a fully mature body. But even then, I don't look at a grown ass woman and think, "she's a child" that's really fucking weird.
You’ve written the most disingenuous, purposefully deceitful and intentionally misleading crap I have ever fucking read on the Farms. But the worse thing is, is that I’ve read and heard that same disingenuous, purposefully deceitful and intentionally misleading crap on other websites. And it’s always always from the same suspects: the smug, slimy and arrogant shithead who know that everyone knows that they’d molest/rape a child if it was legal, but they play that stupid “you can’t prove I’m not being ironic” bullshit all the time. And they do this by flaunting the fact that they live out their sick fantasies wanking over depictions of children being sexualised and sexually abused because they know it’s a medium for child-porn that they can legally use and no one can stop them.

If you really are a woman: remove your womb with the hook end of a coat-hanger because no child should ever have to be cursed to be birthed by a creature such as you.

Jesus fucking Christ, I feel nauseated that women like you exist. I know your type because, unfortunately, I’ve read stories or seen documentaries about bitches like you: you’re that type of manipulative, fork-tongued cunt that would, if you could get away with it, sell or groom the kids for the male pedos to use: a regular Ghislaine Maxwell. It’s happened on so many occasions that it makes me wish that female pedophilia carried the death-penalty because they are, in my opinion, worse than male pedos; because children are far more likely to trust a woman than they are to trust a man.

And it’s that addition of betrayal that makes me feel – to the very core of my being – that when shitcunts like you are finally caught grooming you ought to be straddled and dragged across the trunk of a sandbox tree.

That immediate knee-jerk need to defend lolicon with "why don't you just focus on real kids and let us fap, you damn antis! Stop caring about us making fictional works of child sexual-abuse normalized! Go help real kids and let us just enjoy the illustrated kiddie-rape! You're what really wrong with the world!"

Fucking kys, Saffronette, you worthless piece of shit.
 
If you google saffronettes name you'd see they're a 29 year old black rampant furry coomer CIS girl, just yet another kiwifarms user who does not follow the forum guidelines on privacy/security like the rest of the site.

It baffles me and annoys me that someone with a join year of 2018 could have such a blatant disconnect on what the rest of this site is like

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Apparently shes a well known sperg, seems to exclusively post about how giant huge tits like Uzaki-Chan's are totally natural and something you would totally see on a skinny asian girl

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(It's their Second Life avatar)
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Oh wow, thanks for the effortpost.

This likely still doesn't completely discount the troon arc though.
 
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