Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Godzilla@1989]

When I first watch ESB, I thought Lando fucked every girl on Cloud City.

Now I’m expected to know he fucks anything in a tent with cowboys.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

When I first watch ESB, I thought Lando fucked every girl on Cloud City.

Now I’m expected to know he fucks anything in a tent with cowboys.

And feminist robots.

"Droid lives matter!"

-Actual line in Solo

 

[BULLY HUNTER_77]

Again, as I've said before: if anyone out there was willing to give TFA a free pass, they fucking DESERVED a film as shitty as TLJ.

IMO, TLJ was the best of the Disney Trilogy. I kinda liked grumpy Luke and Po - everything else is easy enough to fast-forward through. Hyperspace tracking and rams could've opened up the tactics of space warfare if handled correctly. The other two films are mostly a haze of boring that I barely remember.

 

[Bulk Bogan]

And feminist robots.

"Droid lives matter!"

-Actual line in Solo

They replaced Vuffi Raa with some generic robot with an inexplicable feminist agenda. This after the movie goes out of its way to make references to a book that I'm almost 100% sure was only read by me. Who were the memberberries for?

Only notable thing the MSM ever brings up about the High Republic regularly is that Disney occasionally releases HR comic covers celebrating Pride showcasing all the new queer jedi in the HR and the queer characters in nu-canon. Including Lando who is bisexual/pansexual now and had an attraction to Solo at one point. Also fuck you for making me remember all of this.

Outsourcing misery is another fun way to enjoy the franchise on your own terms! I'm so glad I'm capable of compartmentalizing this shit.

 

[The Ugly One]

He must've felt like an even bigger bitch when he had greater creative involvement in the next film, only for that movie to swandive into financial oblivion and nailing the coffin shut on the Abrams films entirely.

The next Abrams Trek movie starts filming later this year.

 

[Ghostse]

Personally I don't consider what George did in the OT to be "mystery boxes" per se,

Tolkien and Lucas don't do mystery boxes.

I could stated that stuff clearer.

By low-effort LotR I mean Tolkien had shit plotted and planned all way. He had all the mysteries filled out completely. Lucas clearly had some plans for some of his mysteries but they weren't completely fleshed out.

and by Lucas's mystery boxes, I don't mean in the sense of JJ's. JJ sets up mysteries with the sole purpose of getting himself out of a writing jam later. That's it. He hasn't thought for one second about how Yellow Yoda got Luke's lightsaber, just that the mechanism of it coming back into the story might help bail him out of a corner he's written himself into later, and it mysteriously brings in a memberberry for the abused retarded seals that are starwars fans.

Lucas has areas of his script that hint at deeper events or exotic places. They aren't filled all the way out, but he's got a vague clue of what's to fit in there. Its not just a "break glass in case of not having thought you plot all the way through". They are to make the story interesting and give the world depth.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Jesus, even Disney’s market cap is below $180 billion.




At this rate, I fully expect Disney to plummet more because of their greed and stupidity in the last six months. Picking a a stupid slap fight with Ron DeSantis was a extremely retarded move along with the shitty SW hotel and over expansive prices for their parks.

 

[Jaimas]

It's easy to ignore if you haven't seen it, The Last Jedi was when the franchise really shit the bed and I had the misfortune of actually watching it. It's easy to say "just ignore it lol" like I do with nuTrek because I didn't build a disassociation with nuWars so I still consider it part of the films I grew up with, whereas with the single episode of Picard I saw it was easy to dismiss since I knew it was a shitshow going in and watching Icheb have his eye violently ripped out in the first two minutes was more than enough to completely sour me on it. The worst part about nuWars is that TFA and Rogue One weren't bad enough to universally sour the fanbase like Discovery was and so people bought into it before TLJ shat all over their breakfast, and it is for that reason that Star Wars fans hold such a vehement hatred of Disney's content.

High Republic is already in phase 2, getting like 5 books and 3 comics in the next year or so. Do any of you know about this? Do any of you care?

For my money the fly in the ointment is the damage this did to the oldster fans - the ones who you will never hear from, because they aren't turbo autists - the ones who cared, but whose voices were never tabulated. We hear the nerd rage from the gallery because the loud nerds know have no other vector for their rage, but for the ones who invested in the setting and chose not to sperg? The cut is much deeper. I imagine the effect is very similar to what happened with oldschool trek fans in the current era, watching everything be destroyed in slow-motion by a group that neither knows nor cares what it's choosing to violate.

Knowing what was lost makes the whole thing so much worse. Yes, you have some fucking awful content in the EU. But you also have nearly forty fucking years of wellspring to draw from, worldbuilding that was already established, things that could be drawn from to make new things. Some of the best works in Star Wars are connected to the EU, be it games, graphic novels (if you've never seen some of them, fix that; they do a fantastic job of covering not only EU content, but also discussing aspects of their design in some of the foreward/afterward segments), or more. They were gotten rid of. The slate wiped clean.

And for what?

We replaced quality writers with Chuck fucking Wendig. We somehow got a sequel trilogy wherein despite having every single OT Cast member on-board and enthusiastic, they failed to get the entire gang together for a single fucking scene once. We got a shallow, empty setting, with objectively worse storytelling, objectively worse characters, and infinitely more cynical, nihilistic, and hollow story beats and development. We got stories that undid everything the OT and PT casts fought and died for, that thought fit to destroy the characters therefrom for no other purpose than so its own shallow incarnations could shine brighter, because they couldn't do so on their own merits.

Both the OT and PT created fans that stuck with the IP for years, that invested themselves in the world and the setting. That cared. The ST will ultimately do this too, but with a price: Because of what it did, it will inevitably end in a shallower, more cynical, more nihilistic way, and it will flat-out not have the staying power of those that came before. Some, like Filoni, might try to undo the damage done in their own fruitless way, but there's no point: Eventually, the new big thing will come along, and the true damage done to the IP will become apparent.

None of this needed to happen. It's a testament to the sheer hubris of the responsible parties, and the tragedy is that nothing will ultimately be learned from this.

 

[Ghostse]

Jesus, even Disney’s market cap is below $180 billion.

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At this rate, I fully expect Disney to plummet more because of their greed and stupidity in the last six months. Picking a a stupid slap fight with Ron DeSantis was a extremely retarded move along with the shitty SW hotel and over expansive prices for their parks.

TBF every company took a massive shit these past two weeks.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

By the way, what did you think about the people who said TFA "wasn't great but had potential to be good because it had a good setup/had good ideas"? I've heard that repeated so many times, even now.

I had that feeling about TFA when it was released. Then Last Jedi happened.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

TBF every company took a massive shit these past two weeks.

But it’s always hilarious to see greedy companies get screwed by themselves.

 

[quaawaa]

"Ha! Stomach to lightsaber style, how do you like it?"

Qui-Gon died after being stabbed in the stomach:

She shouldn’t have survived.

 

[Getting tard comed]

By the way, what did you think about the people who said TFA "wasn't great but had potential to be good because it had a good setup/had good ideas"? I've heard that repeated so many times, even now.

People still huffing the copium so they can deal with liking a movie that's bad, arguing with people who told them it was bad when it came out, and struggling to realize George Lucas might have known what he was doing all along.


It's quite funny actually how despite being around for 40-50 years Lucasfilm, under George, kept a fairly consistent Canon that for the most part only had minor contradictions throughout that time. 85%-95% of it was internally consistent all the time. Disney has so many internal contradictions with 1/5 of the time making decisions their own Canon doesn't make sense and that's not accounting for the movies they inherited.

 

[Creep3r]

Qui-Gon died after being stabbed in the stomach:
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She shouldn’t have survived.

Not just the stomach but they all got slagged right in the spine too. So this is all just pathetic writing levels of cope. Even in that Fallen Order game they had the MC get lightsaber stabbed in the heart and walk away. And with all the ways Filoni likes to have characters survive all manner of impossible bullshit on the big screen, its no wonder they put him in charge of being creative executive, and most of his characters don't even have Force powers as an excuse. Even getting blown up in a ship means nothing to these disney hacks.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Not just the stomach but they all got slagged right in the spine too. So this is all just pathetic writing levels of cope. Even in that Fallen Order game they had the MC get lightsaber stabbed in the heart and walk away. And with all the ways Filoni likes to have characters survive all manner of impossible bullshit on the big screen, its no wonder they put him in charge of being creative executive, and most of his characters don't even have Force powers as an excuse. Even getting blown up in a ship means nothing to these disney hacks.
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Dave isn't in charge of this show.

KK has this show being run outside of Dave's portfolio

 

[Creep3r]

Dave isn't in charge of this show.

KK has this show being run outside of Dave's portfolio

Dave is the Executive Creative Director and an executive producer. KK runs the majority of the business, but Dave is pitching the creative side of things and even Favreau has said that Filoni handles the "lore" and usually sought his approval on what to do and what not to do. And it all reeks of Filoni's usual staples, Filoni Wars fanservice and cheap survival rates. Reva might not be his creation and was probably conceived by KK and the new director, but most of what happens in Kenobi is perfectly in line with his usual saturday morning ideas.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/obi-wan-kenobi-darth-maul-scenes-cut-luke-skywalker-replaced-during-creative-overhaul-1235108192/

We even have confirmation on the matter since his inquisitor ocs are all over this.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Dave is the Executive Creative Director and an executive producer. KK runs the majority of the business, but Dave is pitching the creative side of things and even Favreau has said that Filoni handles the "lore" and usually sought his approval on what to do and what not to do. And it all reeks of Filoni's usual staples, Filoni Wars fanservice and cheap survival rates. Reva might not be his creation and was probably conceived by KK and the new director, but most of what happens in Kenobi is perfectly in line with his usual saturday morning ideas.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/obi-wan-kenobi-darth-maul-scenes-cut-luke-skywalker-replaced-during-creative-overhaul-1235108192/

We even have confirmation on the matter since his inquisitor ocs are all over this.

Except for this show

He has 0 input on this show

 

[Creep3r]

Except for this show

He has 0 input on this show

https://ew.com/tv/obi-wan-kenobi-grand-inquisitor-rupert-friend-interview/

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/obi-wan-kenobi-darth-maul-scenes-cut-luke-skywalker-replaced-during-creative-overhaul-1235108192/

The way that Vader appears in the series and the idea to introduce the Inquisitors were both suggested by Filoni.

Rebels co-creator Dave Filoni did not want Friend to do an impression of original actor Jason Isaacs

Chow had shown these scripts to Favreau and Filoni, who expressed concern over the similarities to The Mandalorian and encouraged Chow and the series to "go bigger"

The original premise even had it so Kenobi was protecting Luke but Filoni suggested otherwise to avoid similarities with the Mandalorian because he already did "space dad protects space boy" story. While complete abandonment of it being an adaptation of the Kenobi novel was encouraged by both him and KK.

I know your 'insider' tells you to have faith in Filoni, but Filoni is a furry and a faggot who only cares about his own creations and only influences the creative side of things while Kennedy deals with the agenda side of things.

Its like if Lucasfilm had given Zahn complete creative control of Star Wars back in the 90s. Half of the galaxy would be Chiss and the sith would be a bunch of savage 4 foot reptile chimps that Vader used to lord over rather than a rival religion to the jedi.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

The original premise even had it so Kenobi was protecting Luke and Filoni suggested otherwise to avoid similarities with the Mandalorian.

I know your 'insider' tells you to have faith in Filoni, but Filoni is a furry and a faggot who only cares about his own creations and influences the creative side of things while Kennedy deals with the agenda side of things.

Nah thats not it.

Kennedy has a job and got the Disney higher ups to approve a separate portfolio of Star Wars products for her and for cowboy Dave.

All we see here is Dave telling KK not to step into his portfolio because senior disney management is separating Lucas into two camps.

And its also designed to project that they are all one big family

 

[Doctor of Autism]

The original premise even had it so Kenobi was protecting Luke but Filoni suggested otherwise to avoid similarities with the Mandalorian because he already did "space dad protects space boy" story. While complete abandonment of it being an adaptation of the Kenobi novel was encouraged by both him and KK.

Why the fuck does Dave now care about these similarities?! Almost all his series are about “Parental Figure protects smaller child”, that’s pretty much the plot of most Star Wars media and it’s fucking annoying.