Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Adamska]

Qui-Gon died after being stabbed in the stomach:
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She shouldn’t have survived.

Yep. It's also why I always considered bringing Maul back fucking retarded by the way.

 

[Creep3r]

because senior disney management is separating Lucas into two camps.

I like you dude, so don't take this the wrong way but this just reeks of Doomcock. Its the same copium he's been spewing for years about how Lucasfilm is divided into two camps in a faux civil war that depends on Filoni winning in order for SW to be saved. We know Filoni likes the sequels, we know he had a hand in TLJ, we can see that all of the new shows carry his influence after the hype of Clone Wars season 7's premiere and subscribers only cemented to Disney that the wolfaboo should handle the creative side of things hence his promotion. I mean sure KK still handles everything but she leaves the lore, creative decisions and nerd stuff to Filoni from what we can tell, and it shows. I mean for fuck's sake half of Book of Bob is just Dances with Wolves with Filoni references added, and Bad Batch is just pointless filler, Filoni references and friendship bonding as is typical of his style.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

Oh my, a spin-off nobody wanted where they recasted a iconic character with a turbo cunt is flopping hard? Who could’ve saw that coming?
https://deadline.com/2022/06/lightyear-box-office-2-1235047729/amp/

Seriously, did these idiots see what happened with Soylo and reconsidered making the Buzz Lightyear movie? And wasn’t there a cartoon back from 2000 that did the same thing?

The cartoon was fictionalized. It was never intended to be part of canon; it was for anyone interested in that type of thing.

Now, everything has to be involved in some sort of “canon”, from Star Wars to Marvel to Pixar films.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

The Critical Drinker made a video regarding the virtue signaling from the woke retard running the Star Wars Twitter account:

Fantastic point that these accounts are not supposed to be the personalized account of the person in charge of it.
Make announcements.
Promote your product without pandering.
Shut up about anything else.
That's how it should be.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_77]

The original premise even had it so Kenobi was protecting Luke but Filoni suggested otherwise to avoid similarities with the Mandalorian because he already did "space dad protects space boy" story. While complete abandonment of it being an adaptation of the Kenobi novel was encouraged by both him and KK.

Of course that's the reason. I had always assumed they *had* to do it with Leah because Luke barely knew Obi-Wan in ANH - he was just some "old hemit" that lived nearby to Luke. I know she didn't know "Obi-Wan" either but that could be explained by her just not making the connection that the "Ben" guy that rescued her was the same guy that "served her father in the clone wars." Admittedly a weak explanation but it was acceptable enough that it didn't completely break my immersion.

I'd have preferred that they built the series without an insufferable child character. I'm also going to add that (since everybody ITT absolutely loved my TLJ hot take) I liked the overall series well enough purely for the post Episode III character interactions between Anakin and Obi-Wan. I think it was pretty cool that Obi is demoralized and out-of-practice while Vader has been training every day for a rematch.

I like you dude, so don't take this the wrong way but this just reeks of Doomcock. Its the same copium he's been spewing for years about how Lucasfilm is divided into two camps in a faux civil war that depends on Filoni winning in order for SW to be saved. We know Filoni likes the sequels, we know he had a hand in TLJ, we can see that all of the new shows carry his influence after the hype of Clone Wars season 7's premiere and subscribers only cemented to Disney that the wolfaboo should handle the creative side of things hence his promotion. I mean sure KK still handles everything but she leaves the lore, creative decisions and nerd stuff to Filoni from what we can tell, and it shows. I mean for fuck's sake half of Book of Bob is just Dances with Wolves with Filoni references added, and Bad Batch is just pointless filler, Filoni references and friendship bonding as is typical of his style.

I absolutely agree here - Filoni might have the occasional good idea but I'm pretty sure he had lots of creative control over Rebels and Resistance, which are two series that are absolutely unwatchable for me. Clone Wars was okay as long as you only watch the episodes with war crimes in them. There's no way he's "one of our guys" trying to improve Star Wars.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

The Critical Drinker made a video regarding the virtue signaling from the woke retard running the Star Wars Twitter account:

Fantastic point that these accounts are not supposed to be the personalized account of the person in charge of it.
Make announcements.
Promote your product without pandering.
Shut up about anything else.
That's how it should be.

This is why I don’t use Twitter and can’t get my words across without a website like the Farms. I can’t limit my thoughts into 440 characters without making a 50 posts on the subject or watch what I say get construed into something that was never meant. You make the same arguments so many times that you subconsciously start to condense it into something that people can fight against. It, like saying “80% of black children are fatherless” instead of “80% of black children were born out of wedlock”.

So when the user says “Stop making Star Wars political.”, we know that they’re talking about modern-day politics in the Trump era, but of course the Star Wars Twitter page, just like how the Sony Twitter page during the St. Floyd protests did, would misconstrue what was said or done to make it entirely different from what it’s saying.

Nobody said putting “queer” characters in Star Wars was the problem. Tom Clancy, a conservative Republican, puts gay characters in his novels at times. Lucasfilm just seems to put more effort into that and tokenizing their minority characters than writing a cohesive story.

As for their second point, again, it’s not a good political story because there’s no spice. There’s just a lot of surface-level stuff instead of an overarching message that transcends politics or social issues.

It’s also funny that these are the same people that condemn “online harassment” but will gladly send their online dogs to harass someone off of social media.

Fuck Twitter. Fuck Instagram. Fuck Snapchat. Fuck Star Wars. Fuck the person who runs this dumb Twitter page.

 

[Creep3r]

The Critical Drinker made a video regarding the virtue signaling from the woke retard running the Star Wars Twitter account:

Fantastic point that these accounts are not supposed to be the personalized account of the person in charge of it.
Make announcements.
Promote your product without pandering.
Shut up about anything else.
That's how it should be.

His analysis of the SW twitter account's lack of professionalism and how its causing attacks on harmless nobodies is on the nose. But I just got to say that the way the SW Twitter is acting now perfectly represents what Lucasfilm became under Disney and hopefully shows what they have been for a long time now to people who didn't want to see the face of the selfish idiots running things behind the brand's id mask. Its like all of their douchebag behavior from all their employees in the past decade is finally compiled into a single presence that's easily visible to the masses on the wider stage of the internet. Chuck Windbag, KK, JJ, Rian, Marvel, Hidalgo, Porgcuck, all of them in the unholy unified form of the brand itself.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the SW twitter is being run by Porgcuck or Hidalgo.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Does anyone know where the "Star Wars was saved in the edit/Star Wars was good inspite of George Lucas" lie originated? I don't think RLM invented that but they certainly parroted that.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Now, everything has to be involved in some sort of “canon”, from Star Wars to Marvel to Pixar films.

You have Sherlock Holmes readers to thank for that ("Doyle Canon"and all that).

His analysis of the SW twitter account's lack of professionalism and how its causing attacks on harmless nobodies is on the nose. But I just got to say that the way the SW Twitter is acting now perfectly represents what Lucasfilm became under Disney and hopefully shows what they have been for a long time now to people who didn't want to see the face of the selfish idiots running things behind the brand's id mask. Its like all of their douchebag behavior from all their employees in the past decade is finally compiled into a single presence that's easily visible to the masses on the wider stage of the internet. Chuck Windbag, KK, JJ, Rian, Marvel, Hidalgo, Porgcuck, all of them in the unholy unified form of the brand itself.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the SW twitter is being run by Porgcuck or Hidalgo.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone from Marvel's social media team is running it, given how all the artists act over there.

 

[TheHarbinger]

Does anyone know where the "Star Wars was saved in the edit/Star Wars was good inspite of George Lucas" lie originated? I don't think RLM invented that but they certainly parroted that.

It originated in Star Wars. Because Marcia Lucas was the driving person behind editing the first film to change the chronology of practically every scene. And then she edited the next two as well. And came up with a ton of ideas that she barely gets credit for anymore. She came up with Force Ghosts. And told George to have Vader kill Obiwan but have Obiwan return as a spirit that would walk with Luke for the rest of the movie.

Lucas divorcing his wife and trying to blacklist her from being a professional editor is a legendary divorce story.

 

[Creep3r]

Does anyone know where the "Star Wars was saved in the edit/Star Wars was good inspite of George Lucas" lie originated? I don't think RLM invented that but they certainly parroted that.

I think a variation of it started because of an interview with Mark Hamill on the Johnny Carson show back in '77 where he started criticizing George's dialogue and saying that Ford and Guiness ultimately pushed him into changing the script, mostly because of a line from Hamill saying "Fear is their (the empire's) greatest strength".

Marcia's involvement with the editing in the background info helped to cement this idea further and that she was the sole thing that saved it even though it was a collaborative effort with George still at the helm. However even Marcia has disproved these claims, recognizing her own editing work but still recognizing that George's creative vision and everyone's work made the film great, not the editing alone. Still the whole thing gained traction after that whole The People vs George Lucas drama of autism.

The Rocket Jump youtube channel also popularized it to its peak when they released a video in the week before TLJ's release when hype was its max that cemented the "Star Wars was saved in the editing" line that RLM initially used but in more detail, most of which was horribly flawed and torn apart by critics of the video which I shared a few pages back in case you missed it.

And fittingly enough Rocket Jump never spoke about Disney's movie flaws. And at the time of the release of their review, dozens of videos came out around the same time to bash the pre-disney movies, as if somehow they knew TLJ might be so bad that they needed to make what came before look even worse.

Of course that's the reason. I had always assumed they *had* to do it with Leah because Luke barely knew Obi-Wan in ANH - he was just some "old hemit" that lived nearby to Luke. I know she didn't know "Obi-Wan" either but that could be explained by her just not making the connection that the "Ben" guy that rescued her was the same guy that "served her father in the clone wars." Admittedly a weak explanation but it was acceptable enough that it didn't completely break my immersion.

The original premise prior to Disney was that Owen didn't allow Ben to see or visit Luke, with the few times Obi-Wan interacted with him as a child was to save him from animals or tusken raiders, etc. But Owen remained ungrateful and insisted on Luke to stay away from him for fear that it would result in Obi-Wan turning him into another Anakin/Vader.

With Disney though, they just openly hate Luke and want him around as little as possible to the point where he's the only OT cast member excluded from Filoni's Rebels and is completely ignored by Leia despite that Leia only knows Obi-Wan because of his Clone Wars past with her stepfather. I mean these people really don't like Luke at all.

I absolutely agree here - Filoni might have the occasional good idea but I'm pretty sure he had lots of creative control over Rebels and Resistance, which are two series that are absolutely unwatchable for me. Clone Wars was okay as long as you only watch the episodes with war crimes in them. There's no way he's "one of our guys" trying to improve Star Wars.

Moderation was key, but instead they milked it and references from it to an ungodly length to the point where it now overshadows the films and any past media in sheer volume, and Filoni probably couldn't be more happy since he's now considered the maker of the "real" or "best" Star Wars.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Qui-Gon died after being stabbed in the stomach:
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She shouldn’t have survived.

Qui-gon didn't have enough hate and willpower to live so that's why he's dead.

Honestly, that explanation would've been fine if it was just Maul. But the fact it's rehashed for every sith who gets stabbed in the stomach just makes it not special and comes across as lazy.

The original premise prior to Disney was that Owen didn't allow Ben to see or visit Luke, with the few times Obi-Wan interacted with him as a child was to save him from animals or tusken raiders, etc. But Owen remained ungrateful and insisted on Luke to stay away from him for fear that it would result in Obi-Wan turning him into another Anakin/Vader.
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With Disney though, they just openly hate Luke and want him around as little as possible to the point where he's the only OT cast member excluded from Filoni's Rebels and is completely ignored by Leia despite that Leia only knows Obi-Wan because of his Clone Wars past with her stepfather. I mean these people really don't like Luke at all.
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It sucks but honestly it's good Disney doesn't even touch Luke beyond like Mandalorian and stuff, only because they'd keep on bastardizing him. But still it really is bad, but at this point I can't even get mad anymore.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I like you dude, so don't take this the wrong way but this just reeks of Doomcock. Its the same copium he's been spewing for years about how Lucasfilm is divided into two camps in a faux civil war that depends on Filoni winning in order for SW to be saved. We know Filoni likes the sequels, we know he had a hand in TLJ, we can see that all of the new shows carry his influence after the hype of Clone Wars season 7's premiere and subscribers only cemented to Disney that the wolfaboo should handle the creative side of things hence his promotion. I mean sure KK still handles everything but she leaves the lore, creative decisions and nerd stuff to Filoni from what we can tell, and it shows. I mean for fuck's sake half of Book of Bob is just Dances with Wolves with Filoni references added, and Bad Batch is just pointless filler, Filoni references and friendship bonding as is typical of his style.

Doomcock takes that end to far.

There are HR issues. They aren't irrevocable issues at Lucas.

Disney upper management isn't satisfied with what Kennedy has produced under her leadership.

They are trying to develop Dave and John's line under Star Wars. They want to create a homegrown "Kevin Feige" inside Star Wars.

The Lucasfilm Story Group produces Lore for everything. The stuff where Dave and John are taking the strongest leadership role doesn't involve any of the material developed by the Storygroup.

Reva is the sort of nonsense that the Storygroup makes

 

[Godzilla@1989]

His analysis of the SW twitter account's lack of professionalism and how its causing attacks on harmless nobodies is on the nose. But I just got to say that the way the SW Twitter is acting now perfectly represents what Lucasfilm became under Disney and hopefully shows what they have been for a long time now to people who didn't want to see the face of the selfish idiots running things behind the brand's id mask. Its like all of their douchebag behavior from all their employees in the past decade is finally compiled into a single presence that's easily visible to the masses on the wider stage of the internet. Chuck Windbag, KK, JJ, Rian, Marvel, Hidalgo, Porgcuck, all of them in the unholy unified form of the brand itself.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the SW twitter is being run by Porgcuck or Hidalgo.

It wouldn’t surprised me also if whoever is running the SW twitter is working for the Democrats as well

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Does anyone know where the "Star Wars was saved in the edit/Star Wars was good inspite of George Lucas" lie originated? I don't think RLM invented that but they certainly parroted that.

It's widely known that Star Wars was an over bloated mess before it was edited down - https://youtu.be/GFMyMxMYDNk - but nowhere suggests the film was not always going to get heavily edited anyways. All films do.

Yep. It's also why I always considered bringing Maul back fucking retarded by the way.

Any Jedi surviving outside of Kenobi and Yoda was always stupid.

Asoka not being killed at the end of the Clone Wars will always be bs.

The only explanation for why he didn’t kill her is that given she’s a lolcow in-universe he probably wants to see what other dumb shit she’d be up to before killing her off. Like the fact he knew she was an incompetent fuck up, immediately beat her ass, and made her grand inquisitor while the original was likely in some hospital bed. It really is the only logical explanation that she’s just a joke to the Empire like not even any stormtroopers or Child Leia seem to be intimidated by her.

'Master, just because I was technically a diversity hire, doesn't mean she'll work out'
'See my old friend, that's your problem, no sense of fun.¡
'If she fails Imma stab her in the stomach again'
'That's more like it'

People still huffing the copium so they can deal with liking a movie that's bad, arguing with people who told them it was bad when it came out, and struggling to realize George Lucas might have known what he was doing all along.

See that's the weird thing. Most people harp on Lucas for the prequels because of the dialogue - but that's inkeeping with the kind of stuff Star Wars was based on. And even with Episode 1 he knew he went to far in places but there wasn't enough time to fix things. I honestly think people have this strange view of Star Wars as not always being awkward goofy throwbacks to pulp fiction/samurai movies or most haven't consumed enough of them to know that by and large they are like George's SW.

For any and all criticism that can be levelled at him I know he would never have made a Sequel Trilogy that was a repeat of the Prequels or the OT. Both his trilogies were different from each other and all his films different also.

 

[Sneed F91]

It's widely known that Star Wars was an over bloated mess before it was edited down

Holy shit...are you saying that... a movie's unfinished first rough edit ISN'T perfect right out the gate? That's news to me! It's almost like that's why Lucas hired editors to help him finish the movie in the first place before release. Lucas is such a fucking hack, unlike other film directors whose rough assembled cuts are obviously what end up finished in theaters.

They want to create a homegrown "Kevin Feige" inside Star Wars.

Disney had a decade to do that. It was supposed to be Kathleen, but she had no idea what she's doing. From my point of view it's way too late to turn Star Wars into the MCU. They tried and failed with the sequels and spinoffs.

The Lucasfilm Story Group produces Lore for everything.

>implying

The original premise prior to Disney was that Owen didn't allow Ben to see or visit Luke, with the few times Obi-Wan interacted with him as a child was to save him from animals or tusken raiders, etc. But Owen remained ungrateful and insisted on Luke to stay away from him for fear that it would result in Obi-Wan turning him into another Anakin/Vader.
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They really could have just made a 2 hour movie about Obi Wan on Tatooine with some flashbacks and ending on him saving Luke but they decided to do something even more retarded and complicated.

 

[The Nothingness]

The Critical Drinker made a video regarding the virtue signaling from the woke retard running the Star Wars Twitter account:

Fantastic point that these accounts are not supposed to be the personalized account of the person in charge of it.
Make announcements.
Promote your product without pandering.
Shut up about anything else.
That's how it should be.

The account emphasizing "Wars" in the IP's name indicates to me that those now in charge of the franchise are utilizing this particular quote from Chairman Mao:


Given the fact that the left-wing has been winning over pop culture for decades, they clearly want to hold onto that control forever.

 

[Kyria the Great]

I know its long dead and its been nearing 5 years but man still to this day I loathe The Last Jedi. The film is aggressively one of the biggest fuck yous in film history being an example of almost everything wrong with modern filmmaking these days. Even if we were to disregard all the character and lore breaking shit in the film what exists in abundance, what else are we left with?

The fact it started with a "Yo Mama" joke in 2017 was already a sign this film was unsalvagable. It's a film that has some of the worst pacing, tone, and character consistency that's received a major budget. It's also way too long where one could have trimmed 45 minutes off of the film and likely would have been more serviceable.

It makes me wonder why Disney is so obsessed with turning all their franchises into female-centric films and projects when they've already clamped down the girl, teenie bopper, and teenage girl market through mainline disney and tv shows? The funniest thing about all this shit is that I haven't seen one little girl talk about Rey or any female star wars character even though these characters are aimed at them. It takes the cake for me how you could misunderstand the core audience of a franchise or genre so bad that you take Star Wars from an event film towards direct to video schlock.

 

[Table Country]

IMO, TLJ was the best of the Disney Trilogy. I kinda liked grumpy Luke and Po - everything else is easy enough to fast-forward through. Hyperspace tracking and rams could've opened up the tactics of space warfare if handled correctly. The other two films are mostly a haze of boring that I barely remember.

It's definitely a masterpiece of unintentional comedy.

 

[Ghostse]

I like you dude, so don't take this the wrong way but this just reeks of Doomcock. Its the same copium he's been spewing for years about how Lucasfilm is divided into two camps in a faux civil war that depends on Filoni winning in order for SW to be saved. We know Filoni likes the sequels, we know he had a hand in TLJ, we can see that all of the new shows carry his influence after the hype of Clone Wars season 7's premiere and subscribers only cemented to Disney that the wolfaboo should handle the creative side of things hence his promotion. I mean sure KK still handles everything but she leaves the lore, creative decisions and nerd stuff to Filoni from what we can tell, and it shows. I mean for fuck's sake half of Book of Bob is just Dances with Wolves with Filoni references added, and Bad Batch is just pointless filler, Filoni references and friendship bonding as is typical of his style.

No see Filoni clearly didn't have anything to do with Kenobi as there were no space wolves.
Never mind that he is sucking the woke cock and singing along to the Disney hymn book, Filoni will save star wars as soon as he has finished blowing KK the fuck out.

If given free reign on star wars he definitely wouldn't turn it into a wolfaboo wankfest for his OCs. Clearly when all the other shows he ran turned into wankfests for his OCs, that was the work of others.

It originated in Star Wars. Because Marcia Lucas was the driving person behind editing the first film to change the chronology of practically every scene. And then she edited the next two as well. And came up with a ton of ideas that she barely gets credit for anymore. She came up with Force Ghosts. And told George to have Vader kill Obiwan but have Obiwan return as a spirit that would walk with Luke for the rest of the movie.

Lucas divorcing his wife and trying to blacklist her from being a professional editor is a legendary divorce story.

Marcia did not edit all of Star Wars, only a part.
By her own telling, she edited the battle of Yavin, primarily because she was (correctly) wet for Han and wanted to give him a bigger, more heroic part. She was too busy working as an editor on another film to earn money for her and George to live because star wars hadn't made any money yet, so she did an unfinished rough edit of Yavin, left some notes, and then went out to win the bread. George and two other guys actually edited the film.

Marcia didn't do this on her own steam. George and the other editors knew the film needed edits. They were working on it, which is what cause Marcia -again, in her own telling - to get involved.

So Marcia did not save Star Wars, but she did edit the battle of Yavin and provide significant input to the new flow of the film causing new dialogue and some new footage to be shot - In the original draft, there was no imminent Death Starring of Yavin IV, the rebels just launched their attack as the death star was just hanging out in space, all of the tense battle dialogue and read outs showing the death star approaching were post-production. It also gave inspiriation for a number of other changes to the film.

tl;dr Marcia suggested reordering the battle of Yavin to give her husbando Han a bigger role, others actually edited the film. She was significant contributor to changing the original Star Wars to the version we know and love, but did not make the only or even the primary contribution.

You're right about George being a vindictive little bastard in the divorce, but I don't know about their relationship so maybe she shit in his bed and had it coming.