So I heard that the average american male has laid with 7 maidens in his life, is this the truth?

[Dyn]

We’re talking about a gender that considers 80% of men below average. If you can meet the wildly overinflated expectations of women, then sure, you’re just fine.

It's really not that hard just go to a bar and ask a few drunk women if they want to fuck you in the toilets, you'll get a yes within forty minutes.

 

[Wormy]

>anyone using "Maidens" in 2022

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[CarlosDanger]

Brave to assume you will find "average" people here.

We are all Chads here.

 

[whogoesthere]

It's not like wealth distribution where the the top 1% of guys are keeping an exclusive harem of 50% of all women that nobody else can fuck, on a societal scale the median and average are gonna be about the same. Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but in the age of dating sites the guys that aren't getting laid aren't trying hard enough in one way or another. Track your calories, do a basic PHUL or PPL split, wait at least three minutes before bringing up how nice her ass is, and you're golden.

Dude I never did any of that shit and I had plenty of sex in my younger years. I mean shit, at one point I got silly with it and slept with 3 different women all at the same time, and it was mostly because I was in a band, not a fucking uggo (nor anything special), and I have the gift of the gab as we call it. I think of it was highly effective lying, but shit, do what you can do. Either be gifted into wealth, being that top 1% of guys who are naturally beautiful, or just do what most men do and lie your arse into the bedroom. Making them laugh is highly effective.

I find with a lot of young men they lack the, hmm, will is not the right word, the fearlessness of actually making a move. I mean, I have been rejected, stings the first time but then after that its just funny and you learn from it. Its strange how ill prepared younger people are for the world, and they fucking talk about their politics all the time. All serious about it as well, its fucking retarded. DOesnt matter what side you find yourself on, leave that shit for when you have a better relationship with the woman.

Its why I laugh when people on here and mostly 4chan when I used it the odd time, and they say women are all woke as shit. Some are yeah, but seriously, get to know some women and you will hear some of the most racist shit you have ever heard in your life. A few times even a fucking cunt like me has thought "Fucking hell love, clam down, we shouldn't advocate for genocide as a thing, just deport them, fucking hell!"

 

[FataBataRang]

It's not too late to choose celibacy

 

[Kermit Jizz]

One odd thing I notice in any of these discussions, everyone seems to assume human mating strategies are universal. This is pretty uncommon in the animal kingdom, you will get different types of males who adopt different mating strategies. You see this in mammals, reptiles, and even things like cuttlefish. Pretty much any animal above a threshold of intelligence does this.

A classic example, the alpha/beta harem dynamic. Elephant seals will have one alpha who controls around 100 females. Do the dozens of other males just lay down and accept that? No, they adopt different strategies, they turn into sneaky fuckers (literally). Sure many of them still fail to mate, but tons of them still do.

Point is there is no reason to assume human men are going to approach mating in the same way. Some guys fuck around, some guys focus on one girl and dump all their resources into a handful of kids. Plus tons of variations between those two extremes. They all have their strengths and weaknesses and theirs no reason to assume their is an ideal strategy, where all men who don't use it have failed to some degree. The mean being 7 really isn't significant when you're comparing apples to oranges.

 

[Caesare]

Its why I laugh when people on here and mostly 4chan when I used it the odd time, and they say women are all woke as shit. Some are yeah, but seriously, get to know some women and you will hear some of the most racist shit you have ever heard in your life.

That's because they don't talk to any women (or men really). Most women don't care about politics, especially younger women.

 

[whogoesthere]

That's because they don't talk to any women (or men really). Most women don't care about politics, especially younger women.

But why are so many young men struggling to form relationships. Its not all incel shit, I think online dating removed the skillset for courting a woman, and now you have men who end up in that hopelessness cycle, forever alone shit.

I blame the internet, as I do for most things that are bad.

 

[Useless(?) Boomer]

Anyways, this topic is gay.
There are probably countless people in third world countries who have any one of us beat by the time they're 15 years old. The idea of celebrating blindly shoving your dick into as many moving things as humanly possible regardless of who they are is some straight up trash niggercattle thinking.

Then these same people who encourage this crap will look at young people and the promotion of socially unhealthy degenerate lifestyles and the tranny fetishization of the very idea of women and tsk tsk at them like hypocrites.

I like your points here. I wish my number was much lower, because as much as it signals anything, it signals that I'm dogshit at forming a meaningful relationship. Would have much rather been successful in finding a partner and starting a family than endure years of dating, which in time gets tiring and even humiliating.

But even at an old-ish age I keep trying to improve myself. To any younger guys who might be reading, that is the only advice I'd give: work on oneself rather than become bitter, because even if a relationship still isn't forthcoming, one has still improved his life.

ETA: I decided to come back and add more specific suggestions about how to improve one's self. Consider evaluating aspects of life that society-at-large values but that you have, in the past, disregarded as pointless, archaic, not for you, etc. Perhaps small talk, socializing in general, dressing neatly, or public speaking. For instance, lately I have worked on my lifelong notion that I am "not a morning person."

 

[Caesare]

But why are so many young men struggling to form relationships.

Cuz they're scared of girls. They spent all their formative years playing video games and fucking off on the internet rather than going out with friends, meeting with other groups of friends containing the opposite sex and doing fun things together, thus learning how to interact like a normal human being. This would usually, hopefully, lead to them meeting a nice young gal who they'd go out with alone, gradually, until they began dating, and probably, eventually, start having sex with this person.

It makes sense if you think about it. With video games now, there is so much choice and there are so many games that are made to just play aimlessly, forever (minecraft type stuff) that they'd rather do that than physically spend time with other human beings. They can bullshit with their friends while playing games online, of course, so yet another obstacle to in-person, human interaction. Even video game systems like nintendo and playstation are focused on the online experience, when that was formerly a strictly PC quality.

All these activities are designed to make you spend money and waste enormous amounts of time. Time that people used to spend with others, they now spend alone. As a result, their social skills have gone to shit.

Every young man is nervous around girls at 11 or 12, the first time he really finds himself interested in them. But they tend to get over that some time in high school, usually. Now, they just never do get over it. I don't know, maybe when they're 40, they'll finally be able to talk to women.

 

[Useless(?) Boomer]

Cuz they're scared of girls.

That's not the only reason. I date quite a lot but have trouble finding someone for commitment. A lot of women I meet seem to not want a relationship (perhaps just not with me, I realize, but many have been single a long time). I hear from lots of other men and women who have the same problem. I know a highly educated, beautiful woman who is 42 and has never had a real relationship. I would estimate she's had sex with 50-100 men, so she's not shy. What you describe is indeed a problem, but it's only part of a bigger puzzle. I would say there are more people than in the past who do not value a relationship or perhaps are very picky or holding out for something very specific. This is admittedly based on my experience, but also many people I've talked to in recent years.

ETA: I think many more young professional-type people don't want kids than in the past, I'm sure that is related. Anyway, i think there's various major social changes at play, including what you described.

 

[Next Task]

No, some sleep with mothers and crones instead.

 

[Flavius Claudius Julianus]

I can believe it. I know several guys in the 30 - 35 age bracket that have slept with less than three women. One of those men has only banged one woman.

My count was less than ten up until the age of 26 or so. The following few years I more than tripled that, and have slowed down again recently.

Both of my older male cousins (navy men) estimate they're in the 100 - 150 region - prostitutes in far flung lands included, naturally.

 

[Apis mellifera]

I'd believe it, but premarital sex is a sin and having high bodycounts is not a good thing.

 

[Slappy McGherkin]

I'd believe it, but premarital sex is a sin and having high bodycounts is not a good thing.

Phheeew, boy. There's a lot to unload in that statement.

God agrees sex between a man and a woman is a good thing.

We don't all end up marrying our high school sweetheart, although that's not a bad thing. My daughter did, good for her.

Men, on the otherhand, we're never meant to be monogamous beasts. Nature proves that over and over. Spread the seed, diversify, and get those genes throughout civilization.

Was weird. Driving to the wound clinic on Friday, Bill O'Reilly did a piece on the top fathers in history. Nothing to do with being an actual "father". Instead, how many crotchgoblins they produced. One of them was Genghis Kahn, with over 600 children and a harem and like 700 wives.

Surprisingly, the all time winner of this event was some crooked tooth Brit, a sperm donor with like 800 confirmed children.

Go figure. A man's mission in life is to procreate. Enjoyable sex is just a side benefit.

 

[tool]

I grew up in a very religious household and my parents never let me hangout with girls at house parties or go to prom or date or do any of that stuff during my elementary - high school years. They even helicoptered when I was at a college, but I still secretly went to concerts and music festivals and raves/clubs. Met up with a few girls, smoked, drank, etc. Didn’t try to get laid, but I’ve been on a few dates/meet ups.

I’m now in my mid 20s and still a virgin, and really all it takes for me to get laid is distancing myself from my parents/family. But I don’t have to or even desperately want to anymore. I’ll watch pron and avoid the headaches of a purely sexual relationship with another human being. I’d like to have a nice, committed girlfriend, but I don’t want to get a girl pregnant, I don’t want to have kids or be forced into some weird legal situation by a crazy girl. I most definitely don’t want to get married ever. Maybe I’ll get laid before I’m 30 with someone I trust who is definitely going to use birth control and all that, but no more than 7 women

 

[Apis mellifera]

Men, on the otherhand, we're never meant to be monogamous beasts. Nature proves that over and over. Spread the seed, diversify, and get those genes throughout civilization.

In the animal kingdom, maybe. We've seen time and time again how children raised without fathers turn out, men who grow up without fathers turn into either transexuals or raping drug-addicted nigger-tier lowlifes, and the women turn into BPD whores who go onto abuse and neglect their future children. Even if the children don't turn out this bad, it's not a risk worth taking. The responsibility of the father goes far beyond just siring his offspring, children need a strong, present father figure. Society collapses without them.

 

[Slappy McGherkin]

In the animal kingdom, maybe. We've seen time and time again how children raised without fathers turn out, men who grow up without fathers turn into either transexuals or raping drug-addicted nigger-tier lowlifes, and the women turn into BPD whores who go onto abuse and neglect their future children. Even if the children don't turn out this bad, it's not a risk worth taking. The responsibility of the father goes far beyond just siring his offspring, children need a strong, present father figure. Society collapses without them.

Otay. But you provided not one iota of why men aren't still driven by the primordial force. We is what is, although some imply the name of God to deny who we really are.

By the way, I have raised four children into successful adulthood.

But I'm still the man whore that sees a nice set of tits and a tight body and thinks I hafta fuck it.

You can make any kind of excuse you want, but you cannot deny nature no matter how many times you slap me upside the head with a cross.

 

[Shidoen]

For me laid as in actual penis to vagina sex? No
Blowjobs, Titjobs, pussy eating, and anything else? I lost count honestly.

 

[Mnutu]

I can believe it. I know several guys in the 30 - 35 age bracket that have slept with less than three women. One of those men has only banged one woman.

My count was less than ten up until the age of 26 or so. The following few years I more than tripled that, and have slowed down again recently.

Both of my older male cousins (navy men) estimate they're in the 100 - 150 region - prostitutes in far flung lands included, naturally.

Jesus Christ dude, boat pussy /= real pussy and fucking lady boys in Thailand don’t count as real experience.