Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Ghostse]

What disney wants is the retarded spending habits of easily manipulated women with the long-term abused wife loyalty of autistic nerds.
I.E. Twlight made buckets of money on release, but even by the 3rd movie people had stopped caring outside of the cadre of dedicated fangirls.

They also forget that most of the lady fandom is schlick-fic collectives, and companies don't profit from that.
This is not saying guys are much better with the amounts of twilek harem fic & art, and hotglued slave leia figures. fuck you assholes for teaching me that term

They want girls to also grow up to be 40 year old creeps and buying $400 Po/Fin gay buttfucking playsets (the figures have realistic prolapse action), but are too disconnected to realize why that won't happen. They are trying hard though - remember the cringey Star Wars kitchen appliances?

The real thing they are wanting is Harry Potter.
Harry Potter was a huge phenom, and while skewed male had incredible cross-gender penetration. Problem with Harry Potter is that Rowling refused to sell all the way out, especially at first, knowing what she had after the first book numbers came back and keeping creative control and having something that at least kind of resembles artistic integrity about her creation. (Additionally it would turn out that she doesn't believe men in dresses are real women, but that's recent problem) She also kept creative things largely british, which Hollywood was used to forcing the limeys to suck their dick and deal with American legal systems, not the other way.

The other problem, which is slowly now being corrected is Rowling wanted to her 7 books and then move on from Harry Potter and be a real author. (She tried to pretend to be man and write detective fiction for a time before realizing both that being a man opens you up to more criticism than being a woman (especially when the "man" responds to the criticism like a woman) and that she wasn't as good of a writer as she had thought herself, so ignored that her male persona had only been published because of influence Rowling had others exert and declared victory) This didn't happen, and she realized that having fuck-off money is secondary to legions of fans sucking your clit, Rowling has been wandering back to the well, and all signs - despite the lady doth protesting too much - say we'll get the announcement of Harry Potter Jr by 2030. (Or almost as likely, Harry Potter Sr. because everyone wants to know more about his dad and his ambigiously gay uncle)

 

[Mega Black]

That and a bunch of ugly ass sequel aliens with no names or even names for their races.

The need to shove a nigger or a woman into every single role has really fucked up the alien representation. Now you only get little shriveled face peanut people.

Billions of dollars will be hurled into this chasm, and nobody will do a thing to stop it.

If nothing else I enjoy seeing these things flop over and over, anything that hastens the heat death of the entertainment industry is fine by me. I long for the days of small media slowly getting a footing in the world again, I doubt it will ever actually happen, but I can dream.

Jedi are suppose to be strong in mind and soul, not just good at waving a laser sword or moving stuff around with their minds. I feel like that was kind of lost with some of the prequels and completely in the sequels.

Lucas got lost in the fun toy aspect of creating Star Wars, he was too attached to the idea of seeing his characters flip around and swing laser swords to think about something more lofty and interesting that makes the idea of a Jedi appealing. The sequels looked at those aspects, being a humble honorable warrior, and decided that it was toxic masculinity and needed to be expunged so that everyone (but really only vaginas and brown people) could be warriors too. Hell, you don't even have to TRAIN anymore! Just be naturally gifted! HUZZAH!

As for Luke though, he is a terribly written character due to making Luke too much of a Jedi Purist which was never who he was in the original trilogy

This was what floored me. The entire point of Luke was that he was the ultimate outcome of a balanced force, a heroic light-side Jedi who understood that the puritanical nature of the past lead to the ultimate victory of evil. His extended universe material was great because he created a new, softer, Jedi order that allowed the Jedi to grow into something better than they once were.

But, they clearly want Rey to do that now... so he's an old fogey retard who wanted to murder a small child because he had a bad dream that means his nephew might be evil one day. He was of course too stupid to realize that stabbing him while he slept might, you know, spurn him to reject his uncle's more altruistic school of thought.

Oh and please ignore that he clearly wanted to be found in the first movie teehee he actually went into exile with no intention of ever being discovered.

 

[Ghostse]

The need to shove a nigger or a woman into every single role has really fucked up the alien representation. Now you only get little shriveled face peanut people.

If nothing else I enjoy seeing these things flop over and over, anything that hastens the heat death of the entertainment industry is fine by me. I long for the days of small media slowly getting a footing in the world again, I doubt it will ever actually happen, but I can dream.

Lucas got lost in the fun toy aspect of creating Star Wars, he was too attached to the idea of seeing his characters flip around and swing laser swords to think about something more lofty and interesting that makes the idea of a Jedi appealing. The sequels looked at those aspects, being a humble honorable warrior, and decided that it was toxic masculinity and needed to be expunged so that everyone (but really only vaginas and brown people) could be warriors too. Hell, you don't even have to TRAIN anymore! Just be naturally gifted! HUZZAH!

This was what floored me. The entire point of Luke was that he was the ultimate outcome of a balanced force, a heroic light-side Jedi who understood that the puritanical nature of the past lead to the ultimate victory of evil. His extended universe material was great because he created a new, softer, Jedi order that allowed the Jedi to grow into something better than they once were.

But, they clearly want Rey to do that now... so he's an old fogey retard who wanted to murder a small child because he had a bad dream that means his nephew might be evil one day. He was of course too stupid to realize that stabbing him while he slept might, you know, spurn him to reject his uncle's more altruistic school of thought.

Oh and please ignore that he clearly wanted to be found in the first movie teehee he actually went into exile with no intention of ever being discovered.

Also ignore that its 20 years later in the movies but all the actors are 30+ years older.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

This was what floored me. The entire point of Luke was that he was the ultimate outcome of a balanced force, a heroic light-side Jedi who understood that the puritanical nature of the past lead to the ultimate victory of evil. His extended universe material was great because he created a new, softer, Jedi order that allowed the Jedi to grow into something better than they once were.

But, they clearly want Rey to do that now... so he's an old fogey retard who wanted to murder a small child because he had a bad dream that means his nephew might be evil one day. He was of course too stupid to realize that stabbing him while he slept might, you know, spurn him to reject his uncle's more altruistic school of thought.

Oh and please ignore that he clearly wanted to be found in the first movie teehee he actually went into exile with no intention of ever being discovered.

It really is stupid how TLJ basically felt like a science fiction parody in that regard since it felt like Rian Johnson didn't even watch TFA and no one even bothered to manage him and just let him do whatever he wants. And then the lesson that Disney executives took from that is that directors should have no freedom given the corporate mess that is ROS and all the directors that had been fired for "creative differences"

 

[The Decimator]

I like how this book doesn’t mention what Disney did to all those birds on Skellig Michael,


Here are some other things that apparently were more important:

 

[Polyboros2]

@Ghostse: *Avatar is a man notorious for literally stretching his asshole to the size that a Black Series Slave Leia could fit inside without touching the walls.

Also @Ghostse: Fuck you for teaching me about dudes jerking off on action figures.


Anyways, after Avatar and poking fun at Ghostse, I'm getting dangerously off topic, so too amend that, I've finished the Dark Tide Duology, NJO book 2 and 3.

I've actually been finished with it for a while, I've just been at a loss of what to say and it. I know the next two books are kinda of the hump of the series and it picks up quite a bit after that. I didn't care for Stackpole's X-wings book, and I felt like I, Jedi was trying to out Gary Stu Anderson's Kyp Durron. I enjoyed Horn in these books more than I ever have. I really like the adaptation to the Yuzhan Vong tech, and I really wish the series had more of that. From what I remember, it kind of ends balancing out Snubfighters vs Coral Skippers, and it's pretty much normal space fights after that.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Another example of a franchise that shit the bed so hard with its ending that they can't go forward and are now stuck making prequels because the older installments are the only parts with which people still have positive associations.

In fairness, even if they hadn’t shit the bed they would not have been able to move forward.

 

[TinCan Wizard]

I like how this book doesn’t mention what Disney did to all those birds on Skellig Michael,


Here are some other things that apparently were more important:

>(((Carie Goldman)))

 

[Midwit]

he's the only OT cast member excluded from Filoni's Rebels

Han was the one who never showed up in Rebels, Luke was inferred to in the Obi-Wan episode and, frankly, he had no place being anything more than that.

Most Disney Wars fans are men because women don't really care for space wizards and laser space ship fights. They don't now, and won't ever. As the Star Wars fandom shrinks, it will continue to be predominantly men. There is no set of future circumstances wherein women and girls have more toy space ships decorating their living spaces than men and boys do.

As a Transformers fan it reminds me of how IDW's More Than Meets The Eye & Lost Light comics has a far stronger female audience than anything else in the franchise, and that's because it's mainly a slice of life sitcom with a surprising amount of romantic drama whilst almost everything else is about a space war between giant robots that transform into vehicles for some reason. I think that the audiences may want different things out of their entertainment...

I like how this book doesn’t mention what Disney did to all those birds on Skellig Michael,

Burgers?

 

[XYZpdq]

I like how this book doesn’t mention what Disney did to all those birds on Skellig Michael,
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My suspicions are more that the birds migrated or never existed and it was a lie to sell more toys rather than those Magical Nights after Epcot closes and Mickey brings out his Enchanted 12 Gauge and there's Magically less seagulls the next day.
But still, they could have definitely lied better about why there were now none of these fabled background birds anywhere.
I do like the idea of the porgs were in draft concept meant to be similar to yukkuris or fluffy pone where it's some obnoxiously cloying and cute thing to the point it's obnoxious but they're stupid and die a lot so it's funny

So I went and looked it up, and while the first one was originally slated for a 2014 release, the delays started before filming, and it didn't start shooting until 2017.
I'm pretty sure it had a COVID delay, plus rescheduling after the buyout to not conflict with movies Disney already had scheduled, that's probably not that crazy of a push back.

and iirc Avatar 1 had quite a few years of preproduction behind it too, but maybe not as much as Battle Angel?

 

[Cactuar King]

It went viral? Did it really? Because this is the first I'm hearing about it.

 

[Sneed F91]

Holy shit there's going to be three more of these?

Avatar is the highest grossing movie ever. Hollywood does not give a fuck is a movie is good or not. If it makes money it will get sequels. That's how we got 5 Disney Wars movies and 3 Jurassic World movies.

So these movies were done ages ago and they're only releasing them now?

Not exactly. From what I understand they filmed 2 and 3 back to back.

It would be hilarious and ironic if the CGI improved massively from the first one but the writing didn't get any better. I do wonder if it'll even get close to the first movie in terms of profits, but at the same time there's just no way because of how much money it made and how long ago it was.

All along people have been laughing at the delays and the notion that anyone wants these sequels at all, but I think we're finally at the point where more Avatar is starting to look pretty good compared to the competition.

That just shows you how much worse Hollywood movies have become. Everyone was shitting on Smurfs in Space back in 2009 until the MCU took over. Everyone was making fun of it because of how forgettable it was. Now it doesn't look too bad.

The real thing they are wanting is Harry Potter.

They had that opportunity in Episode 7, but Disney was too stupid to have Luke's Jedi Academy be the focus of the sequels because it would remind people of the prequels. Let's just make it like the OT and have 1 Jedi because nostalgia.

I like how this book doesn’t mention what Disney did to all those birds on Skellig Michael

What book is this?

 

[King Dead]

So these movies were done ages ago and they're only releasing them now?
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Holy shit there's going to be three more of these? Still I'm sure Disney is eagerly anticipating the hope that this makes a lot of Bay money for them in China that they had hoped to make with Star Wars.

Personally the last thing I want a bloated and law-manipulating company like Disney to do is make more money, but I have to wonder if Avatar does better would they make it their new default and whored out scifi franchise instead of Star Wars? I mean they stopped giving a damn about Tron as soon as they got SW and thought it would be more profitable.

I don't know exactly what all happened with the Avatar sequels. With the enormous success of the first, it's kind of a no-brainer that sequels would happen, but then it just ended up taking forever for these movies to get into production. Maybe James Cameron didn't quite know where he wanted the story to go and needed time to hash out the scripts, maybe he was busy with other projects for a while (like producing the Alita movie, another long-time passion project of his), maybe it's just the huge logistical issues with filming up to four movies practically simultaneously. Maybe it's all of the above.

The sequels were first announced immediately after the first film came out, initially aiming for a 2014 release for Avatar 2, but then various delays set in, with some wondering if it was ever going to see the light of day. Neil Cicierega sums it up pretty well:

Remember that these were also in the works prior to Disney's acquisition of Fox, so this isn't wholly the Rat's doing. That said, they'd be crazy to dump all the work that had previously gone into these movies, even crazier to give up on sequels to one of the biggest movies of all time. I think there were plans at one point to alternate between Avatar sequels and Star Wars movies every year, but with how badly the Disney Trilogy poisoned that well, it sure doesn't seem likely. Although 4 and 5 have supposedly already had some filming done, Cameron himself has said that if 2 and 3 don't do well, then those movies won't happen either.

It's all up in the air at this point, so there's not much point in speculating until 2 comes out. If it does gangbusters, expect Avatar to be whored out to hell and back. If it does adequate...who knows? It does have the benefit of not having nearly as much legacy as Star Wars (the summation of the Avatar franchise at this point is pretty much one movie and one theme park), so there's room for it to grow without pissing off long-time fans.

My biggest question with the Avatar sequels is this: is the spectacle really going to be enough? Avatar had a flimsy plot and 2D characters, but it was sold on the experience of "going to Pandora" with 3D. And admittedly, as someone who saw it on an IMAX screen when it first came out, it was pretty darn immersive. But we've had over a decade of CGI nightmares since then, with the entire MCU being a bluescreen assembly line production. And with Top Gun: Maverick's insistence on real stunts with real planes and real effects for the majority of the movie showing how good a movie can look when it's actually being filmed in reality, I wonder if another Avatar movie will have the same impact. Either they'll step up the actual storytelling aspect of the movie, or they're just gonna coast on general audiences being too dumb to care as long as there are flashy lights and explosions.

Like I said, it's all pointless speculation for now. We'll see what happens in winter, assuming it doesn't get pushed back again.

 

[Sneed F91]

Can someone please tell me what the hell this faggot is talking about?

 

[XYZpdq]

yeah I really sincerely enjoyed (being high af) watching Avatar in the theater with all the 3d bells and whistles and that one smurf did the flip over the flower and you're like wooooooaaaaaaah, also even if they jobbed getting to see some of the old Aliens designs getting work again was nice
honestly I can see how Avatar 2 might be the make-or-break for the Tentpole system

 

[Kane Lives]

Spoiler: The Chinese Market in a Nutshell

https://youtu.be/xN0vUlljX0I?t=133

In every dystopian work, members of that civilization have a tendency to be prideful over the fact they're part of that civilization. Never mind the fact everything that dystopia does is atrocious. Then again, you were taught at an early age that atrocity is normalcy.

I'm fairly certain part of the reason why Star Wars doesn't work on a place like China is the simple fact the government there isn't going endorse a film about dissidents going against an authoritan empire and winning. Doesn't gel well with what China wants. Still, Disney sucks for trying to appeal to someone like that.

I'll go out on a limb here and disagree. In fact, the Chinese has nothing against the archetypical story of a dissident group going up against a tyrannical government, because this isn't even alien to them. (See: the Communists during WW2 and the subsequent rebellion against the KMT.) As long you're righteous, you will be justified in striking down the evil power. Very typical monomyth stuff.

What Star Wars lack, and I feel, shared with most people on the mainland is that the sequel trilogy is simply bad in communicating its story. As some rightly pointed out, there's simply no nostalgia for the franchise in China to begin with. Ergo, all those memberberries that JJ keeps trotting out during TFA? Nobody cares. Who the fuck is this old geezer that commandered the Millennium Falcon? Why is everyone so in awe of him? Oh good riddance, he's dead, why are do we care again? So on and so forth. Sure, the SFX is shiny and I suppose okay for its time, but really, try explaining the story of TFA without relying on past references to the films. You can't. The story of TFA cannot hold up on its own. (For fun, try doing the same for A New Hope, and Phantom Menace. Both hold up reasonably well under scrutiny.)

And that, IMO, is the true death knell of movie Star Wars overseas.

 

[TheHarbinger]

Can someone please tell me what the hell this faggot is talking about?
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This is how social media faggots interact. With vague inclusive language that never takes a side on anything. So you can never know what the hell they are rambling about and everyone from all sides promotes their social media posts. Like throwing shit at the wall over and over and seeing what sticks style of social media presence. You post something that basically the overwhelming majority of Star Wars fan will like and then gaslight them or bait them into agreeing with you. Or just ask some vague or simple question that people will answer yet you never answer them back like "What is your favorite Star Wars movie?" just to get a higher social media score.

Take the SW out of his post and replace it with literally any franchise. Hell replace it with just about anything period like Coca-Cola or the NFL. And the post makes the same amount of sense. Worst of all is that he got you to follow him and notice him. He got your attention. And you infected this thread with the presence of some Star Wars faggot for no reason. So he wins by getting your attention and promotion. You essentially are driving his content. Stop using social media.

And if you called him a faggot on any social media platform you would be banned immediately. So this absolute AIDS infected demented social parasite has his safe space to spew his degenerate nonsense. And you brought his trash here.

 

[XYZpdq]

I'll go out on a limb here and disagree. In fact, the Chinese has nothing against the archetypical story of a dissident group going up against a tyrannical government, because this isn't even alien to them. (See: the Communists during WW2 and the subsequent rebellion against the KMT.) As long you're righteous, you will be justified in striking down the evil power. Very typical monomyth stuff.

What Star Wars lack, and I feel, shared with most people on the mainland is that the sequel trilogy is simply bad in communicating its story. As some rightly pointed out, there's simply no nostalgia for the franchise in China to begin with. Ergo, all those memberberries that JJ keeps trotting out during TFA? Nobody cares. Who the fuck is this old geezer that commandered the Millennium Falcon? Why is everyone so in awe of him? Oh good riddance, he's dead, why are do we care again? So on and so forth. Sure, the SFX is shiny and I suppose okay for its time, but really, try explaining the story of TFA without relying on past references to the films. You can't. The story of TFA cannot hold up on its own. (For fun, try doing the same for A New Hope, and Phantom Menace. Both hold up reasonably well under scrutiny.)

And that, IMO, is the true death knell of movie Star Wars overseas.

iirc China was mostly down with the PT, but they didn't give any shits about the OT
so going away from the Wuxia saber-ballet and vaguely towards the OT (guest starring a black guy and a viet chick) was obviously not going to be the Chicom's next number one jam

 

[Creep3r]

I don't know exactly what all happened with the Avatar sequels. With the enormous success of the first, it's kind of a no-brainer that sequels would happen, but then it just ended up taking forever for these movies to get into production. Maybe James Cameron didn't quite know where he wanted the story to go and needed time to hash out the scripts, maybe he was busy with other projects for a while (like producing the Alita movie, another long-time passion project of his), maybe it's just the huge logistical issues with filming up to four movies practically simultaneously. Maybe it's all of the above.

The sequels were first announced immediately after the first film came out, initially aiming for a 2014 release for Avatar 2, but then various delays set in, with some wondering if it was ever going to see the light of day. Neil Cicierega sums it up pretty well:

Remember that these were also in the works prior to Disney's acquisition of Fox, so this isn't wholly the Rat's doing. That said, they'd be crazy to dump all the work that had previously gone into these movies, even crazier to give up on sequels to one of the biggest movies of all time. I think there were plans at one point to alternate between Avatar sequels and Star Wars movies every year, but with how badly the Disney Trilogy poisoned that well, it sure doesn't seem likely. Although 4 and 5 have supposedly already had some filming done, Cameron himself has said that if 2 and 3 don't do well, then those movies won't happen either.

It's all up in the air at this point, so there's not much point in speculating until 2 comes out. If it does gangbusters, expect Avatar to be whored out to hell and back. If it does adequate...who knows? It does have the benefit of not having nearly as much legacy as Star Wars (the summation of the Avatar franchise at this point is pretty much one movie and one theme park), so there's room for it to grow without pissing off long-time fans.

My biggest question with the Avatar sequels is this: is the spectacle really going to be enough? Avatar had a flimsy plot and 2D characters, but it was sold on the experience of "going to Pandora" with 3D. And admittedly, as someone who saw it on an IMAX screen when it first came out, it was pretty darn immersive. But we've had over a decade of CGI nightmares since then, with the entire MCU being a bluescreen assembly line production. And with Top Gun: Maverick's insistence on real stunts with real planes and real effects for the majority of the movie showing how good a movie can look when it's actually being filmed in reality, I wonder if another Avatar movie will have the same impact. Either they'll step up the actual storytelling aspect of the movie, or they're just gonna coast on general audiences being too dumb to care as long as there are flashy lights and explosions.

Like I said, it's all pointless speculation for now. We'll see what happens in winter, assuming it doesn't get pushed back again.

Thanks for the info and video. I've never really followed Avatar since the movie just never clicked for me beyond visuals I guess, so its nice to know what exactly was going on with the Avatar's sequel productions.

It's all up in the air at this point, so there's not much point in speculating until 2 comes out. If it does gangbusters, expect Avatar to be whored out to hell and back. If it does adequate...who knows? It does have the benefit of not having nearly as much legacy as Star Wars (the summation of the Avatar franchise at this point is pretty much one movie and one theme park), so there's room for it to grow without pissing off long-time fans.

Yeah, I'm expecting that if the sequel does well the franchise is going to get whored out more than Star Wars and maybe the MCU too, especially if China is just as in love with it as before, which sadly would mean more money for disney. But on the bright side, Avatar lore isn't exactly old or expansive compared to older franchises like capeshit, SW, LOTR or even Ghostbusters of all things, and the creator is still involved, so its not like its fans have anything to fear of anything being unfaithful to the source or lore since it not only lacks much of it due to being so young but Avatar fans (especially the ones in China) just seem to be catsmurf fetishists who don't care much beyond their attraction to tall catsmurfs, and its always been steeped in over the head allegory too so its not like adding woke bullshit would be anything new. That and maybe if Avatar proves successful in China unlike Star Wars, hopefully Disney will give SW the Tron treatment and lock it away (or sell it off which is horribly unlikely but a man can dream his foolish dreams), since as soon as they got a hold of Star Wars back in 2012 they quickly abandoned Tron when they realized that they had a more recognizable IP to leech off of.

My biggest question with the Avatar sequels is this: is the spectacle really going to be enough? Avatar had a flimsy plot and 2D characters, but it was sold on the experience of "going to Pandora" with 3D. And admittedly, as someone who saw it on an IMAX screen when it first came out, it was pretty darn immersive. But we've had over a decade of CGI nightmares since then, with the entire MCU being a bluescreen assembly line production. And with Top Gun: Maverick's insistence on real stunts with real planes and real effects for the majority of the movie showing how good a movie can look when it's actually being filmed in reality, I wonder if another Avatar movie will have the same impact. Either they'll step up the actual storytelling aspect of the movie, or they're just gonna coast on general audiences being too dumb to care as long as there are flashy lights and explosions.

Same. I was never really impressed by its story and native american parallels, but it had pretty visuals I guess, but nowadays we've witnessed the limits of cgi and its just not as groundbreaking as it was back then. We always wondered if cgi could advance enough that it would be indistinguishable from the real thing, but no matter how far it gets there's always a sense of the uncanny valley effect that stops the immersion to a degree after so many years of cgi exposure. That and unlike old 35mm film, digital picture's clear view just makes the cgi model's lack of a presence more notable. Although that's just my impression on the subject.

So visuals aside, what else can they do other than more human invasion stories on such a small and primitive planet? Tribe civil wars? Underwater or Underground mutant invasion on Pandora? However from reading the wikis, it sounds like the next step for the films is to explore other planets in the Alpha Centauri system, but the neo furry fans and Chinamen mainly love it because of the blue guys, so take away the navi and you end up becoming another scifi adventure saga instead. Then again, maybe they really do want to turn it into a Star Wars substitute if that is the case...

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Can someone please tell me what the hell this faggot is talking about?
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What happened with this cuck wannabe now? Did Hidalgo or another person at Lucasfilm bully him again? Did he get pissed off that so many people were making fun of Kenobi? Did the SW Twitter account's meltdown piss him off directly or the people triggering it? Or did too many people finally call him out on his doormat behavior with Lucasfilm?

 

[Saxxon]

I like how this book doesn’t mention what Disney did to all those birds on Skellig Michael,
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Here are some other things that apparently were more important:
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Now this is peak clown world, a fucking Star Wars book talking about covid and the elections
But credit where is due George Floyd was my favorite character in the sequels I just wish that he had lasted a little more before getting force choke by Darth Chauvin