Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

If you were Taylor Swift, whom would you rather date?

  • Russell Greer

    Votes: 117 4.5%
  • Travis Kelce

    Votes: 138 5.3%
  • Null

    Votes: 1,454 55.8%
  • Kanye West

    Votes: 286 11.0%
  • Ariana Grande

    Votes: 609 23.4%

  • Total voters
    2,604
What I'm wondering though, is why they need the extra 7 days? When they got sick they said that despite their "serious" flu they could do it in 21. When they found out they have COVID (they didn't say that their condition worsened) they now suddenly need 7 days more. Sure, they have to make a response on the SCOTUS level after their opposition filed a brief, but surely in the 21 days they would have finished with this brief as originally intended?
So in your opinion what is Russ trying to do here? Are his lawyers jerking him round and delaying because they know his case is retarded? I guess I'm asking whats the point in all these delays and extensions?
 
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So in your opinion what is Russ trying to do here?
His lawyers are the one's doing the doing.
But, probably stalling for time in hopes of figuring out a way to present this appeal in a way that won't get them sanctioned. Personally, I think it wouldn't be wise to challenge the defamation claims against Null.
I guess I'm asking whats the point in all these delays and extensions?
Praying for a miracle? Your guess is as good as mine.
because they know his case is retarded
They 100% know that Russ has no case.
 
So have the ambulance chasers found a client ( Russ) that they wished they had left in the street?
That's the vibes I'm getting.
It seems like they just gave his case a cursory review before taking it and didn't do any background research on Russ himself. And now they're stuck. Since they're pro bono, they can't quit due to nonpayment, and "Your Honor, we were too stupid to check and find out our client is a wackaloon before we took the case" probably won't fly as a reason for the judge to release them,
 
It seems like they just gave his case a cursory review before taking it
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and "Your Honor, we were too stupid to check and find out our client is a wackaloon before we took the case" probably won't fly as a reason for the judge to release them,
They should very strongly insist on not doing the defamation claims, and when Russ insists, use that as a reason to ask the court to let them withdraw (if they pursue the defamation claims against Null they could get sanctioned or even worse. The claims have no merit, and they know it)
 
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They should very strongly insist on not doing the defamation claims, and when Russ insists, use that as a reason to ask the court to let them withdraw (if they pursue the defamation claims against Null they could get sanctioned or even worse. The claims have no merit, and they know it)
Christ, that's the spittle-spraying argument I want to observe. Poor Russ, thinking these legal Accommodations (who might not be best, but still) are the best way to lend some sort of gravitas to those claims, and them having none of it.
 
They should very strongly insist on not doing the defamation claims, and when Russ insists, use that as a reason to ask the court to let them withdraw (if they pursue the defamation claims against Null they could get sanctioned or even worse. The claims have no merit, and they know it)

I suspect that Russhole is absolutely insisting on pursuing the meritless defamation claims, and that's why the lawyers keep filing for extensions by pleading illness: to buy themselves more time to try to talk their idiot client down. They need Russhole's consent to file anything on his behalf, right? If he's objecting to them filing the appeal brief without filling it full of bullshit whining and crying about cyberbowling and those meaniehead Kiwi Farmers, they'd be stuck between a rock and a hard place, wouldn't they? Or are they allowed to file what's in their client's best interests (and what won't get them sanctioned) even if he tells them to do otherwise?
 
And now they're stuck. Since they're pro bono, they can't quit due to nonpayment, and "Your Honor, we were too stupid to check and find out our client is a wackaloon before we took the case" probably won't fly as a reason for the judge to release them,
Especially after wasting everyone's time with dilatory and evasive gamesmanship and wild tales that are as credible as the dog eating their homework. In fact I think that's their next claim.
Or are they allowed to file what's in their client's best interests (and what won't get them sanctioned) even if he tells them to do otherwise?
No, the client is "captain of the case" and lawyers have to represent their client in the manner he wishes, so long as that is legal and not so abhorrent to the attorneys they amount to irreconcilable differences justifying withdrawal. Also a client can always discharge a lawyer, unlike the other way around. The only real exception is the client has been adjudged incompetent (no not like Russ as in mental and not like Russ mental but too crazy to assist meaningfully).
 
(no not like Russ as in mental and not like Russ mental but too crazy to assist meaningfully)
I think he is too crazy to assist meaningfully. When he was charged with electronic harassment, he wrote a fucking letter to the judge telling the judge he did what he was accused of, but it wasn't harassment because he said it wasn't. He's not just insane, he's an idiot. He's a crazy idiot. He'd have to be to think his plans would ever work. He wrote a shitty song for Taylor Swift, who at the time he wrote it was the world's most famous singer and expected her to not only turn songwriting over to him, but fall in love with him and make him famous. He thought the Katy Perry/Taylor Swift feud was real and though he could get Katy Perry to help him "destroy" Taylor Swift. These are the actions of someone who is not only certifiably bonkers, but just north of being an bona fide sped. He hasn't been ajudged incompetent, but just talk to him for five minutes, and it's clear there's something very wrong with him. But his lawyers would still have a hard sell in getting a judge to let them walk, because the judge would probably tell them they should have checked Russ out before agreeing to represent him.
 
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a client can always discharge a lawyer, unlike the other way around
Could these delays be a tactic to try and encourage Russhole to discharge his counsel? Given that it's taken this long and progress appears to be glacial, maybe Messrs Grimm and Keenan are hoping that Russhole will lose patience.
 
Could these delays be a tactic to try and encourage Russhole to discharge his counsel? Given that it's taken this long and progress appears to be glacial, maybe Messrs Grimm and Keenan are hoping that Russhole will lose patience.
I think you're right, because it's obvious they just snapped up the case because they thought they could pad their resume with it and didn't bother to google Russ and find out he's insane. And like others have said, I think (and hope) he's really trying to get them to pursue the defamation claims because it's clear that insulting his massive ego is worse than anything else in his mind. As @Useful_Mistake said, Russ's lawyers know the defamation claims are meritless, and they could potentially get in trouble for pursuing them. I don't think Russ really cares about the book that much, it's just we said things that indicate we don't think he's the greatest and that cannot stand. Remember how nutso he went over the "invasive and troubling" statement? This is the same thing. We're contradicting his claim of being a great guy, and providing proof, and that hits at the core of who he thinks he is.
 
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I think he is too crazy to assist meaningfully. When he was charged with electronic harassment, he wrote a fucking letter to the judge telling the judge he did what he was accused of, but it wasn't harassment because he said it wasn't. He's not just insane, he's an idiot. He's a crazy idiot.
Which isn't legally incompetent.
 
They need Russhole's consent to file anything on his behalf, right? If he's objecting to them filing the appeal brief without filling it full of bullshit whining and crying about cyberbowling and those meaniehead Kiwi Farmers, they'd be stuck between a rock and a hard place, wouldn't they? Or are they allowed to file what's in their client's best interests (and what won't get them sanctioned) even if he tells them to do otherwise?
They aren't allowed to file anything that would breach their ethics, court requirements, or be illegal.
That being said, unless Russ delegated all decision making authority to them, they do need to consult him, and his word is the final say (broadly UCJA Rule 13-1.02)
 
They aren't allowed to file anything that would breach their ethics, court requirements, or be illegal.
That being said, unless Russ delegated all decision making authority to them, they do need to consult him, and his word is the final say (broadly UCJA Rule 13-1.02)
One thing they might have a problem with is if both counsel and Russ are filing things that contradict each other. Russ is probably too stupid not to do that. Courts generally really hate messes like this, where you get the worst of having counsel and the worst of having a pro se idiot spewing gibberish (despite having lawyers).
 
Could these delays be a tactic to try and encourage Russhole to discharge his counsel? Given that it's taken this long and progress appears to be glacial, maybe Messrs Grimm and Keenan are hoping that Russhole will lose patience.
I look forward to the extended screed about how Keenan and Grimm are fake lawyers who sabotaged the case.
 
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