Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[The Gunt Whisperer]

You can't have a vaginal fistula with a vagina.

You absolutely can.

Vaginal fistulas can occur after trauma (childbirth for one… violent sexual assault is another common trauma that causes them… and improper use of “implements” not meant for insertion…) or as a result of various treatments for cervical dysplasia and cancer (radiotherapy in particular, but also cryotherapy). Or possibly even a bad infection.

(Not so) fun fact: many lubricants contain spermicide. Nonoxynol-9 can cause thinning and weakening of the mucosa, resulting in lesions, irritation, infection and… fistula.

For average users of lubricated condoms, spermicidal lube or gel this isn’t a huge deal. But for someone doing porn or sex work, or even just having vigorous sex a couple of times per day every day for a few weeks this can be a real danger.

Vaginal fistulas have different designations. They can connect with either the small bowel, large bowel, rectum, bladder or urethra.

The reason the rectoneovaginal fistulas end up being poop chutes is because of the anatomy of the male body. The neovagina is right up against the rectum or large colon, and is farther and angled away from the other internal organs like the bladder. It’s also stationary and not muscular and elastic like a factory original. So the fistulas occur in the posterior wall (the side aligned with the colon.)

 

[John Flynt's Axe Wound]

You absolutely can.

Vaginal fistulas can occur after trauma (childbirth for one… violent sexual assault is another common trauma that causes them… and improper use of “implements” not meant for insertion…) or as a result of various treatments for cervical dysplasia and cancer (radiotherapy in particular, but also cryotherapy). Or possibly even a bad infection.

(Not so) fun fact: many lubricants contain spermicide. Nonoxynol-9 can cause thinning and weakening of the mucosa, resulting in lesions, irritation, infection and… fistula.

For average users of lubricated condoms, spermicidal lube or gel this isn’t a huge deal. But for someone doing porn or sex work, or even just having vigorous sex a couple of times per day every day for a few weeks this can be a real danger.

Vaginal fistulas have different designations. They can connect with either the small bowel, large bowel, rectum, bladder or urethra.

The reason the rectoneovaginal fistulas end up being poop chutes is because of the anatomy of the male body. The neovagina is right up against the rectum or large colon, and is farther and angled away from the other internal organs like the bladder. It’s also stationary and not muscular and elastic like a factory original. So the fistulas occur in the posterior wall (the side aligned with the colon.)

The Yoda of fistulas. Jfc.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I have heard of "fat-transfer" breast enhancements...basically they move adipocytes (fat cells) from one area of the body to another. It looks and feels like real breast tissue, as breasts are 90% fat. The thing is, I am not sure if this a viable option for mastectomy patients as there is no breast capsule left for the fat cells to colonize. Also, you can apparently only do one cup at a time...and there is always the risk of some reabsorbtion of the transferred adipocytes.

Are "fat-transfer" procedures a viable option for mastectomy patients? I am curious, now.

Looks like they are.
Post-Mastectomy Fat Graft/Fat Transfer ASPS (American Society of Plastic Surgeons) Guiding Principles
short PDF, no illus., 2015 tl;dr doesn't increase risk of recurrence or false positives on scan.

Well-illustrated anecdote (no blood):
My Cancer Chic | archive

Spoiler: it's boobies but no nipples

 

[Mr Baloon Hands]

Uh oh: looks like the opiate-goggles wore off again and she’s back in reality. Time for another surgery!

u/xeroform22 is bitching again.
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Looks like her recent surgery didn't go very well. Hopefully Chen can help her.
Either way she's looking like she is either going to detransition or suicide in the next few years.

 

[Peaches Demure]

You can't have a vaginal fistula with a vagina.

Did you mean to say "without a vagina"?

 

[Mr Baloon Hands]

Do you think they ever say this stuff out loud to themselves? Just to hear how it sounds?

 

[neverendingmidi]

Do you think they ever say this stuff out loud to themselves? Just to hear how it sounds?

We’re literally documented people typing out their cognitive dissonance while they themselves are unable to see it.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

Do you think they ever say this stuff out loud to themselves? Just to hear how it sounds?

I see this time and time again on this thread. These people are mentally ill to begin with, then they go to a SRS surgeon expecting a porn star-tier penis/vagina or even a normal functional organ and instead they get an axe wound or sausage skin-dick. They're never satisfied because the underlying mental problems were never addressed. This is evidenced partly by their need for constant validation that their chosen sexual organ looks correct. I cant think of any men or women that need the level of reassurance transgenders need regarding their penis/vagina. Theres the usual "is my dick big enough?" and camel-toe concerns but never the amount that troons or tifs have. I have a theory about the transgender causes but want to avoid medical sperging.

 

[FeatherPlucker]

Random thought: I'll never understand the obsession with removing nipples for FtMs. Men have nipples. They're sensitive, they're fun to play with, whether it's on a male or female. Many men get erotic sensations from them if you play with them the right way-- so why chop them off? If anything, nipples are "non-binary" sex organs.

 

[Fapcop]

Random thought: I'll never understand the obsession with removing nipples for FtMs. Men have nipples. They're sensitive, they're fun to play with, whether it's on a male or female. Many men get erotic sensations from them if you play with them the right way-- so why chop them off? If anything, nipples are "non-binary" sex organs.

It’s more of a deviant-creepy-fetish damage than on purpose.

The nipples get lobbed off because it’s impossible to cut off your boobs without it.

That’s why some of the “surgeons” do nipple transplants, where they take them off first, cut out the breast tissue and then reattach them.

(Only to have them fall off like pepperoni slices off a pizza in many cases.)

Meanwhile over at r/ftm, a Gayden reports back from the socialist paradise of Europe with alarming news!


Apparently taxpayers aren’t too keen on spending millions and millions of Euro’s on Frankenstein surgeries with dubious results. THIS IS GENOCIDE ETC!



The immediate reaction from a fellow troon?

SHUT IT DOWN THE NORMIES KNOW!



“Just smile and shut up and say life saving surgery ffs! Your medical horror stories ARE PUTTING TRANS MEN AT RISK!!!”

 

[Hepativore]

It’s more of a deviant-creepy-fetish damage than on purpose.

The nipples get lobbed off because it’s impossible to cut off your boobs without it.

That’s why some of the “surgeons” do nipple transplants, where they take them off first, cut out the breast tissue and then reattach them.

(Only to have them fall off like pepperoni slices off a pizza in many cases.)

I did not know that when non-troon women have mastectomies like for breast cancer they usually have to remove the nipples and areolas as well. I take it that is because they are anchored by connective tissue to the mammary glands and duct system which also has to be taken out.

I do not see how it would be possible to surgically reconstruct passible nipples and the areolar region once they are removed, as they are made out of a different type of epithelial tissue than the surrounding epidermis.

 

[Julie Newmar]

Meanwhile over at r/ftm, a Gayden reports back from the socialist paradise of Europe with alarming news!


Apparently taxpayers aren’t too keen on spending millions and millions of Euro’s on Frankenstein surgeries with dubious results. THIS IS GENOCIDE ETC!

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The immediate reaction from a fellow troon?

SHUT IT DOWN THE NORMIES KNOW!

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“Just smile and shut up and say life saving surgery ffs! Your medical horror stories ARE PUTTING TRANS MEN AT RISK!!!”

Bitch, we’ve seen what y’all are “satisfied” with in the realm of fake dicks. You don’t get to legalize subsidized rot dog surgery based on “well it’s good enough for my deluded ass!”

 

[Peaches Demure]

Random thought: I'll never understand the obsession with removing nipples for FtMs. Men have nipples. They're sensitive, they're fun to play with, whether it's on a male or female. Many men get erotic sensations from them if you play with them the right way-- so why chop them off? If anything, nipples are "non-binary" sex organs.

Quite a lot of them have been diddled as kids and associate "breast tissue" with "girl" and want to remove any and all traces of the girl that was molested.

 

[axeltrite]

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They are claiming that the goal of having satisfactory or even functional surgery is meaningless.

The cope is unreal.

 

[sanguis draconis]

It’s more of a deviant-creepy-fetish damage than on purpose.

Well, there is a whole subreddit for girls with "nipple dysphoria" (r/freedthenips, currently banned for lack of moderation but the girls are getting it back). I think these girls are getting some weird kind of "dysphoria" in general, there's so much focus on the "chest" and having "top surgery" even when they have no issue with vaginal sex and stuff, it's a phenomenon that merits some studying.

One of my theories is that they see nippless men in cartoons and anime and as we know, a lot of these girls want to look like their anime husbandos instead of real men. But I'm sure there's some different stuff going on, as I said the ftms have some intense feelings about their "chests".

Quite a lot of them have been diddled as kids and associate "breast tissue" with "girl" and want to remove any and all traces of the girl that was molested.

That too (and is one of the reasons for my above comment). Feels like he overall "social contagion" makes even the girls that haven't been molested start to get uncomfortable with their bodies, tho

I have heard of "fat-transfer" breast enhancements...basically they move adipocytes (fat cells) from one area of the body to another.

I don't know, fat transfer is the Brazilian Buttlift method, which is not exactly a low mortality procedure. I would be worried if there was the same lowering quality like there is for the ftm mastectomies, cause getting a "lower quality" fat transfer can easily mean death, not just a botched chest. Hopefully the standards for these surgeons would be better than some of the "top surgery" butchers, though.

I do not see how it would be possible to surgically reconstruct passible nipples and the areolar region once they are removed, as they are made out of a different type of epithelial tissue than the surrounding epidermis.

The "nipple transplants" are just part of the surgery, they just cut out the nipples during to reposition and make them smaller (that''s not jusst mastectomy, breast reduction might do this do). I do worry if they saw the influx of traumatized young girls as a possible profitable market some surgeons might get adventurous and and see if they can get some cadavers to donate their nipples.

 

[FeatherPlucker]

It would make more sense to me, if you wanted a breast reduction, to have the nipple re-positioned (maybe reduced in circumference) versus completely removed. This is assuming you're not also suffering from cancer. If you were a woman trying to truly "pass" as a man, why have the obvious "signs" like having no nipples and having huge scars? Don't they ever see men proudly displaying their nipples and piercings?

 

[Hepativore]

I don't know, fat transfer is the Brazilian Buttlift method, which is not exactly a low mortality procedure. I would be worried if there was the same lowering quality like there is for the ftm mastectomies, cause getting a "lower quality" fat transfer can easily mean death, not just a botched chest. Hopefully the standards for these surgeons would be better than some of the "top surgery" butchers, though.

I am not a medfag, but I thought it actually had a lower risk of dangerous complications than conventional breast implants, especially cheap silicone ones.

The biggest issue I heard was that of the fat transfer not taking and the cells undergoing apoptosis at the transfer site...not to mention the chance that the transferred cells got reabsorbed or metabolized a few years later, so possibly having to redo it. Plus, you do need to have an ample supply of fat cells to harvest in a donor site where they will not be missed.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Average FTM doesn’t want to look like an actual man. Always keep that in mind.

 

[Fapcop]

I thought folks might be interested in the paper published by the Biannual Dr. Mengele Friendship Society that performs these butcheries.

https://epath.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Boof-of-abstracts-EPATH2019.pdf

Plenty of interesting papers inside, from the latest penile flap research at Yokohama University, to case stories involving anal fistulas and colostomy bags.

Personally I found a study done about 150 German troons rather interesting.

Average age was around 40, and the troons believed they were happy and lived their best lives. (Remember the source here!)

But oWo what’s dis?!?

“However when compared to a German control sample health-related QoL was significantly reduced“

So trooning out is likely to cause health issues, got ya!

“At the time of interrogation nearly half of women (46.5%) lived in a firm relationship of whom 43.5% were allied with the same partner since coming out.”

And you’re also likely to lose your partner, check!

“Subjects showed significantly elevated levels of psychological distress on all subscales of the SCL-27 (p<0.001) except for the sub- scale vegetative symptoms (p=0.051) with the global symptom index being significantly higher when compared to a control sample (p<0.001).”

Oh wait… Weren’t these surgeries done to lower “psychological distress”?!?

Maybe more surgeries or pharmaceuticals can help?!

 

[Gar For Archer]

I did not know that when non-troon women have mastectomies like for breast cancer they usually have to remove the nipples and areolas as well. I take it that is because they are anchored by connective tissue to the mammary glands and duct system which also has to be taken out.

I do not see how it would be possible to surgically reconstruct passible nipples and the areolar region once they are removed, as they are made out of a different type of epithelial tissue than the surrounding epidermis.

If we’re talking just VISUALLY passing from a distance, you could just get nipples tattoo’d on. It would look better than the burnt peeling pepperoni you see on so many FTM’s, and be just as functional (e.g. not).

With cancer, presumably the nipples are not saved because of the risk that they might also be cancerous.