General GunTuber thread

Total cow behavior. Blaming the "backend"...
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Here's how you know how far Karl has fallen into cow-dom.

"Don't feed the trolls" was Internet 101 for people of my generation, and Karl is almost 10 years older than me. Yeah, he's 48 and arguing with people on facebook. Anyway, back when we started using the internet, the rule was that if you got flamed, you moved on. You didn't talk about being flamed, you didn't complain about being flamed, and you sure as shit didn't talk about "all the flaming" you got that no one else got to see because it was over PMs or email. You let the haters seethe and moved on to the next activity, because complaining about trolls and arguing with trolls simply resulted in time being wasted.

But it's fine for Karl, because he's simply adapting to the customs of his new tribe. For the woke harassment isn't an annoyance. It's currency. You toil in the slur mines in order to build up your clout reserves. It's typical cult behavior, too. The more you anger the outgroup, the more virtuous you are to the ingroup. So arguing with people over your own hot takes and claiming that you're being harassed is the expected behavior from him now.

Just give it a while, though. Karl is an old white man with an edgy past. No amount of genuflexion will save him when the same trannies and young woke youtubers he's been promoting decide he's got to go. And we'll be here to watch the fireworks

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What do people like Karl think they will gain by being adamantly anti-racist? Social leftist Browny points? Fist bumps from their Wife's Bull? I genuinely can't understand it.

It's like they think black people carry around a rolodex of white people who aren't racist.

Around Blacks, Always Relax. - Karl
 
If you have to tell everyone you're not racist, well you are probably racist...
Sick of this make believe crap they think still goes on, it's 2022 not 1960. There is no one out there hanging blacks from shit or burning lower case t's in peeps yards.
 
I'm reminded of JustSomeGroomer's recent fall. Both sperg on about things that intentionally alienate their target audience but then blame said audience for being "toxic" when they encounter any backlash and/or try to lie their way out of it.

Karl should know better yet but won't do anything to correct himself due to elitism and pride. He's been trying to claim that i wAs oNLy pReTeNdInG tO bE rEtArDeD he was just trolling when he made that vasectomy tweet. Note: Trolling doesn't work when you regularly post cringe. He repeatedly spergs out on anyone who calls him a shill as opposed to giving a rational explanation for it, making him look like a shill even more. Hell, he even got defensive when people were trying to correct him on how to grip a Sten gun and started sperging about "doctrine" so he could justify a minor mistake.

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On the topic of internet schizos:

The thing the internet has made is a hug box for those types of guys who bask in the theories of "oh actually there was a federal agent with a machine gun at parkland" and take the statements of frightened, pants pissing, and fearful teenagers at face value. They do no help but the problem is the 2A community never bothers to filter them out because a lot of them believe that private censorship within their own community is wrong.

All this to say, the 2A community should be cleaning up its own and not scaring away potential members with loud, mouth frothing retards like Karl, the guy from Ammo AZ, or Jnmyanus Pizza. The Paul Harrell video said something that I noticed that no one in the firearm community has acknowledged: People need to clean up their act and do more to stand up because this is currently a community of Yankee Marshalls and Karls with Tacticool Troons who ruin the image for others.

Yes I do believe guns are for everyone, but at the same point, the firearm community needs to do more to police itself and have some discipline over its own optics.

/end rant

Tl;dr Dear Firearm community,

I love you but jesus no one wants to see you get choked to death in the middle of the night because you believed in Chinese herbal cures vs actually getting the cancer removed.
 
On the topic of internet schizos:

The thing the internet has made is a hug box for those types of guys who bask in the theories of "oh actually there was a federal agent with a machine gun at parkland" and take the statements of frightened, pants pissing, and fearful teenagers at face value. They do no help but the problem is the 2A community never bothers to filter them out because a lot of them believe that private censorship within their own community is wrong.

All this to say, the 2A community should be cleaning up its own and not scaring away potential members with loud, mouth frothing retards like Karl, the guy from Ammo AZ, or Jnmyanus Pizza. The Paul Harrell video said something that I noticed that no one in the firearm community has acknowledged: People need to clean up their act and do more to stand up because this is currently a community of Yankee Marshalls and Karls with Tacticool Troons who ruin the image for others.

Yes I do believe guns are for everyone, but at the same point, the firearm community needs to do more to police itself and have some discipline over its own optics.

/end rant

Tl;dr Dear Firearm community,

I love you but jesus no one wants to see you get choked to death in the middle of the night because you believed in Chinese herbal cures vs actually getting the cancer removed.
I agree completely with your rant, but the problem is trying to make 2A a community in the first place.

Ironically, Second Amendment advocates have the same problem as the LGBT community. Namely, trying to build a "community" out of many disparate groups that have vastly different goals and ideals, but that share one single narrow and well-defined characteristic or interest. Worse, both treat gatekeeping like it's a bad word, because the "community" is always "for everybody" and no one should ever be denied the goals of the community. Whenever these circumstances line up, you always end up with schizophrenic messaging and a lot of infighting.

This is why I don't really care for 2A as a "community". It doesn't represent anything, because no matter what happens someone in the "2A community" is going to be butthurt by any legal or cultural development. Yes, I would agree with a tranny with a My Little Pony-themed rainbow-colored AR-15 that private ownership of guns is important, but that's literally the only thing we have in common, which makes agreeing on any kind of detail to the importance of private ownership of guns impossible. I'd much rather support specific pro-gun organizations that push (and lobby, because nothing gets done in this fucking country without lobbyists) for policies I agree with, and if these organizations align with other pro-gun organizations in order to push for pro-gun legislation that's great. The point is that these organizations should be representing the interests of their members, rather than some vaguely-defined "community" of unaffiliated people.

Long story short, anyone trying to speak for or about "the 2A community" is talking out of their ass. It's a meaningless term. There's no community there, only groups that hate each other's guts trying to pretend to be nice to one another for the sake of presenting an obviously manufactured united front. Just like the LGBT community.
 
This is why I don't really care for 2A as a "community". It doesn't represent anything, because no matter what happens someone in the "2A community" is going to be butthurt by any legal or cultural development. Yes, I would agree with a tranny with a My Little Pony-themed rainbow-colored AR-15 that private ownership of guns is important, but that's literally the only thing we have in common, which makes agreeing on any kind of detail to the importance of private ownership of guns impossible. I'd much rather support specific pro-gun organizations that push (and lobby, because nothing gets done in this fucking country without lobbyists) for policies I agree with, and if these organizations align with other pro-gun organizations in order to push for pro-gun legislation that's great. The point is that these organizations should be representing the interests of their members, rather than some vaguely-defined "community" of unaffiliated people.
I'm not disagreeing with you, actually. I used to help another friend of mine take new shooters to the range and felt better about some notional idea of a "community" but based off of similar interests rather than gender or sexual identity. The 2A groups have been doing an okay thing, I'll even go as far as to say Pink Pistols does the gatekeeping thing fucking well. They have issues, sure, but they filter out a  lot of the troons who decide to kick up a fuss because unlike Armed Equality(who boycotted a tampon company for not being trans inclusive enough while PP literally was speaking at different state events) a few of those guys were survivors of Pulse.

Long story short, anyone trying to speak for or about "the 2A community" is talking out of their ass.
It's not exactly an incorrect sentiment either. AE is a great example of doing nothing and building a cult of personality around your sexuality with guns sprinkled in.

That aside, I only wish it was easier to find some semblance of a community of people I can sit down and have a beer with rather than feel like fucktards are going to fedpost about burning down the government or starting their own ranch in Montana.


Totally unrelated. I like this thread as I feel like I can have actual discussion without some nigger telling me we should shoot minorities. I feel at home talking shit with you all and I hope I haven't done anything to make any of you want me dead. That would suck.
 
Hell, he even got defensive when people were trying to correct him on how to grip a Sten gun and started sperging about "doctrine" so he could justify a minor mistake.
Does anyone else remember the whole debacle where he made a comment in one video to the effect of "You pull the charging handle on the G3 down and release it, you NEVER perform the HK slap the HK slap is a bad thing to do." and then people were like "Literally how is the HK slap bad for the gun and who has ever said 'don't do that'?"

And then Karl made at least one video where he pulled up the Bundeswehr operating manual for the G3 and appealed to doctrine to say "SEE? The Bundeswehr CLEARLY states to not do the HK slap! I'm right and you're wrong! nanner nanner nanner!"

And then everyone else was like "Yeah sure, maybe it says that but you still haven't explained why it's actually bad to do." alongside a couple guys who were claiming to be former Bundeswehr who were all like "The manuals told us not to do it but we did it anyways. No one cared and it caused no problems with the rifles."

I remember that.
 
Does anyone else remember the whole debacle where he made a comment in one video to the effect of "You pull the charging handle on the G3 down and release it, you NEVER perform the HK slap the HK slap is a bad thing to do." and then people were like "Literally how is the HK slap bad for the gun and who has ever said 'don't do that'?"

And then Karl made at least one video where he pulled up the Bundeswehr operating manual for the G3 and appealed to doctrine to say "SEE? The Bundeswehr CLEARLY states to not do the HK slap! I'm right and you're wrong! nanner nanner nanner!"

And then everyone else was like "Yeah sure, maybe it says that but you still haven't explained why it's actually bad to do." alongside a couple guys who were claiming to be former Bundeswehr who were all like "The manuals told us not to do it but we did it anyways. No one cared and it caused no problems with the rifles."

I remember that.
After seeing an old article mentioning Karl, I was thinking about what got Ian and Karl to be friends in the first place. And I reached the conclusion that it was probably their shared love of history. Both men do very similar things when it comes down to it, too: they look for documentation to back their arguments. And as far as guns go, manuals of arms and doctrine manuals are their Holy Grail. But doctrine and real life are two different things and soldiers are infamous for bending and/or ignoring the rules once the rubber has met the road. So the official documentation needs to be supplemented by knowledge drawn from real-life experience.

So, both Ian and Karl come in from the same angle and have similar blind spots with regards to supplemental information. But while Ian will attempt some level of scholarly rigor and generally corrects himself (sometimes begrudgingly) when presented with contradicting evidence or first-hand testimony (possibly because he has talked to a lot of actual scholars and experts), Karl has become so certain of his opinions that unless someone forces him to change his mind getting that dude to admit he's wrong or even explain where he gets his supposedly unassailable information from is like drawing blood from a stone.
 
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I just stumbled across this on YouTube, it's an archived video from some guy that manufactures underground bunkers, bitching about a bad experience negotiating a sponsership with Demolition Ranch...

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I think we talked about it briefly. There's long running beef between Atlas Survival and Rising S. The guy who runs Atlas constantly accuses the owner of Rising S of snitching to the feds, making bunkers that rust and brings up a situation where a bunker blew up due to some gas leak. The Rising S guy gave Matt a bunker in exchange for the videos promoting the company which was just the better deal and the competitor got felted.
 
Karl is so stuck on canceling the forward assist, he actually went to the trouble of citing a person he probably would otherwise completely dismiss:

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Karl will never see combat unless said combat is the fight to put on an ever tightening plate carrier while he shoots at dirt, so his opinion on the forward assist is safely discarded.
 
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