Business Yes, a recession looks inevitable. But it may not be that bad. Here’s why

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People shop near the Nordstrom Rack in downtown Los Angeles on March 15. The U.S. has had a recession, on average, every 6½ years since 1945.
(Damian Dovarganes / Associated Press)

BY DON LEE | STAFF WRITER
JUNE 22, 2022 8:44 AM PT

WASHINGTON — Whether it’s President Biden insisting a recession is avoidable or his critics arguing that the wolf is at the door, both sides are acting as though the nation faces an unprecedented catastrophe.

Partly it’s political theater. Biden fighting on behalf of an already beleaguered presidency and many of the doomsayers hoping a downturn could be the coup de grace for Democrats.

Behind the rhetoric, the reality is that recessions are a normal part of American economic life. The U.S. has had one, on average, every 6½ years since 1945.

And in the present case, most professional economists think any downturn now is likely to be relatively mild, with a fairly quick recovery.

“We’re calling for a small ‘r’ recession,” said Jack Ablin, chief investment officer at Cresset Capital. “It means it’s not going to be protracted and things aren’t going to fall apart,” as they did during the Great Recession and again in 2020 when the pandemic struck.

Many households are flush with cash, jobs are plentiful with demand for new workers strong. Banks are well capitalized, which gives them a solid buffer against a business contraction.
What may be different this time is the public’s state of mind, coupled with a handful of unusual factors — first among them the grinding war in Ukraine.

For most Americans, the pandemic and its accompanying economic upheaval came after an extraordinarily long period of relative economic stability.

The economy was not growing much and real incomes were stagnating, but unemployment was low among most population groups, prices were stable, interest rates were at rock bottom and the stores were flooded with low-cost goods made overseas.

Most people had adjusted to the status quo.
So the COVID-19 downturn hit like a thunderbolt, and the outbreak of inflation — driven largely by consumers suddenly beginning to spend their pandemic-induced savings — was another jolt to popular expectations.

Now, economic indicators look primed for a recession. The broad-based S&P 500 stock market is down more than 20% since its high Jan. 3. U.S. consumer confidence has sunk to record lows, thanks largely to high inflation. Retail spending, homebuilding and manufacturing output all declined last month.

And consumers, who drive the American economy, are starting to cut back on discretionary purchases, things like appliances and services.

Tom Straus, owner of Straus Carpets in Oakland, has seen a sudden drop-off in orders for new flooring jobs at homes in the Bay Area. Typically his commercial business includes about $1 million in projects for schools during the summer; such orders so far this year are just $30,000.

“Our future work is diminishing,” he said.

Many other business leaders, small and large, as well as workers, are bracing for harder times, with fears stoked by the Federal Reserve’s plans for more fat interest rate hikes to combat high inflation.
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“We’re skating on the edge of recession, especially with the Fed bringing out these big guns,” said Christopher Rupkey, chief economist at the financial market research firm Fwdbonds.

Larry Summers, Harvard economist and former Treasury secretary, notes that whenever inflation tops 4% (it was more than double that in May) and unemployment drops below 4% (it was 3.6% last month), that’s an indication of an overheating economy that in the past has always brought recession within a year or two.

Whether avoidable or not, the real question may be: How bad and long will the next downturn be?

And on this score, there is greater consensus among experts that it’ll probably be nothing like the most recent episodes.
One common definition of a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative economic output, that is, shrinking gross domestic product. But an official designation is made by a nonprofit research organization, which looks at a broad set of data and declares a recession, usually months after it’s begun.

The Great Recession that began in late 2007 lasted 18 months — the longest in 90 years — and was also one of the deepest. Millions of Americans lost their jobs and homes after the real estate bubble burst and large banking firms cratered. The unemployment rate shot up to 10%.

The pandemic-inflicted recession in 2020 was the shortest on record, just two months from peak to trough, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research. But the sudden collapse in the economy was unparalleled as businesses across the country closed and consumers sheltered in place for weeks. Some 22 million jobs evaporated between February and April that year.

The rebound since then has been fast and strong, thanks largely to unprecedented government aid to households and businesses. Several rounds of stimulus checks helped boost consumer spending and demand, contributing to higher inflation. Much of that money hasn’t been spent yet, which will provide a cushion for many households.

Americans overall had excess savings of $2.7 trillion in the first quarter, according to Moody’s Analytics’ calculations based on Fed and other government data. Although more than half of that was held by households in the top 10% of income, those in the bottom 20% had on average about $5,700 more cash in hand than they otherwise would have without the federal aid and the effects of the pandemic.
That extra savings, along with historically low household debt and loan-servicing burden — many homeowners locked in low mortgage rates before the recent hikes — suggest most people are better positioned financially and could help make the next recession milder.

At Bank of America Institute, economist David Tinsley saw a noticeable uptick in BofA customers using their credit cards last month, as was the case at many banks. High gas prices, he says, are hitting lower-income families hard and also cutting into spending for goods.

But looking at BofA customers’ savings deposits and checking account balances, Tinsley said, “households continue to have high buffers relative to before the pandemic.”

For John Barone, 58, the difference between where he was on the eve of the Great Recession and today is like night and day.
In 2007, he was running his own home renovation business in Baltimore, making payments on a $1-million loan. When the housing market crashed, he laid off 20 workers and eventually lost his business, his home and his wife.

Today Barone and a business partner operate out of Washington, D.C., giving tours with their seven golf carts. His business debts are modest — $32,000 in bank loans for two electric vehicles. Barone has seven seasonal workers and lives modestly in an apartment on Capitol Hill. “I don’t have a car, don’t have to buy gas,” he said. “I go to the day-old bread shelf and buy my bread for half-price.”

Barone is more sanguine than most. Nationally, small business owners were asked last month by the National Federation of Independent Business how they see conditions over the next six months. The result was the lowest reading in 48 years.

At larger companies, a May survey of 750 top executives by the Conference Board found that more than 60% of them see a recession coming or already here. Both surveys, however, suggest employers aren’t sure what that may mean as far as employment and potential for layoffs.

Many employers are still struggling to fill vacant jobs and could be reluctant to let go of workers right away. The jobless rate stood at 3.6% in May, a notch above the half-century pre-pandemic low, and there are still nearly two job openings for every person officially unemployed.

New unemployment claims, a proxy for layoffs, have been edging higher in recent weeks but remain low by historical standards. Job growth in May was the slowest in 12 months, but still a robust 390,000.

“Of course we’re slowing down, but let’s remember how fast we had been growing,” said Carl Tannenbaum, chief economist at Chicago-based Northern Trust.

One thing that worries Tannenbaum is the risk of knock-on effects from the Fed’s move to jack up interest rates. The pivot has already taken a big bite out of the U.S. housing market, but the tightening by the Fed and other central banks could also slam developing countries and the global economy as investors reshuffle funds. That could circle back to drag down the U.S.

Economists say the Fed misread the threat of inflation and was slow to abandon its easy-money policies, but it’s now racing to catch up and raise its benchmark interest rate aggressively to cool demand and slow growth, including in the job market.

“I think they’re seeing it like the worst of two worlds — either stagflation or recession,” said Beth Ann Bovino, chief U.S. economist at Standard & Poor’s Rating Services. Stagflation — a condition of high inflation and stagnant activity — plagued the economy in the 1970s and ended only after the Fed jacked up interest rates high and drove the economy into a deep doubled-dip recession in the early 1980s.

“My belief is that in order to avoid stagflation, I think they would risk the economy and go for the recession rather than suffer stagflation for however many years,” Bovino said.

Jeffrey Korzenik, chief investment strategist at Fifth Third Bank in Tampa, Fla., thinks the country will avoid a recession, barely, thanks largely to the strength of the labor market.

He figures the Fed’s tightening will create more layoffs but added, “We have so many openings, it’ll be easier to get workers recycled into the job market. It’s not bulletproof, but it means the economy is less likely to fall off a cliff.”

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Well it'll probably kill off more of the boomers that contributed to it, so there's that.
 
The predictable establishment media cycle:

The [thing that is clearly going to happen] isn't going to happen.
[thing is clearly happening] The thing isn't happening, dangerous kooks are lying and need to be purged from public view.
Ok, it's happening but here's why it's actually a good thing.
Ok, [thing] is actually bad and it's all whoever is the current establishment boogeyman's fault.
 
The predictable establishment media cycle:

The [thing that is clearly going to happen] isn't going to happen.
[thing is clearly happening] The thing isn't happening, dangerous kooks are lying and need to be purged from public view.
Ok, it's happening but here's why it's actually a good thing.
Ok, [thing] is actually bad and it's all whoever is the current establishment boogeyman's fault.
Watch them delay this and blame it on the encroaching republican landslide
 
Behind the rhetoric, the reality is that recessions are a normal part of American economic life. The U.S. has had one, on average, every 6½ years since 1945.
Ups and downs are normal, lean years are normal, recurring recessions is enemy action.

Many households are flush with cash, jobs are plentiful with demand for new workers strong. Banks are well capitalized, which gives them a solid buffer against a business contraction.
What may be different this time is the public’s state of mind, coupled with a handful of unusual factors — first among them the grinding war in Ukraine.
Talk to anyone who doesn't have their heads up the media's ass and they'll tell you everything is going to shit. I work with some guys in their 60's and one jokes that if gas goes any higher he's gonna have a heart attack; the only people who care most about Ukraine right now are countries who receives wheat from them, or people in Hollywood and D.C. 99% of Americans don't give a shit about Ukraine.
 
Space program isn't for you.
It's for the Beautiful People.
Watch them delay this and blame it on the encroaching republican landslide
All while they try to defraud the election. Once it's done openly once and not punished then there's no going back.
Ups and downs are normal, lean years are normal, recurring recessions is enemy action.
It's really interesting that recessions have shifted to benefitting the truly powerful. You don't hear about the rich having to tighten their belts like you did in the Great Depression.
 
I heard about this article. It's a spin piece to try and run damage control for Biden. Yes, we might have a recession, but it won't be so bad. Here is why it's Trumps fault. Yes, I am sure all the rich people won't mind a recession.

I watched this video the other day.

Two bubbles are about to pop. The housing bubble and another tech bubble. If anyone is old enough to remember, we had a tech bubble pop in 2000. A lot of people lost jobs. Then the next year we had 9/11 and things got worse. Of course, 9/11 didn't cause it all. They are called corrections. The housing market is out of control and prices are way too high. The government should have let it pop years ago, but they kept inflating it. When this tech bubble pops you might see a lot of stuff like Uber, Grub Hub and Whatsapp go out of business. Anything tech related is going to take a big hit. There will probably be a lot of unemployed street shitters soon. Hopefully they all go back to India. This could even affect social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook which are already having issues.

I was watching a video by Styxhexenhammer the other day and he said if one of them pops we could go into a recession if they both pop it will be a depression. I know about Styx's weirdness. I find him to be a bit cringey. He voted for Obama twice when he was younger and poorer than he is now. Now that he has been a little successful and has money he swings towards republicans. It makes him a bit of a hypocrite IMO. So, I take most of the stuff he says with a grain of salt. Like a lot of the human text to speech translators he is just a good way to get news without having to give some website clicks. If Styx is right or whoever he got the information from is right, it could be worse than a recession. Either way it's going to destroy the Democrats politically and just make Trumps chances of winning in 2024 much easier.

I watched this video many years ago. Probably around the late 2000's. I can still remember it.

The US is just feeling the effects of trying to survive as a service nation. That's what all these recessions and everything are about. In the video he talks about a lot of the stuff you heard people talk about in the past like Boomers retiring and peak oil. I don't think the whole peak oil scenario ever really played out and the Boomers have been retiring for a while. But I think the one thing that has impacted the economy and has been taking a toll on it for decades now is the loss of the US manufacturing base. This only got worse throughout the 90's and early 2000's. Peter Zeihan said deglobalization is happening no matter who is president. It's like they can tell this isn't working. Especially with what's been going on with Covid and China.

Saying there is plenty of jobs isn't entirely untrue. There are plenty of jobs, but they are low paying jobs. Mostly low paying service jobs. I do not believe Americans are flushed with cash. Some of them were with all the Covid stimulus. But that money is probably all gone now. With the drop in consumer spending and everything. $1,500 is like nothing now. You can go through that in a few days depending on what you buy. Like the video says, the US can't survive as a service economy. You have to produce something. You can't keep shipping products into here expecting to sell them to unemployed people and people working for low wages.

I am not being some kind of doom splainer. I don't think the US economy is going to collapse anytime soon. But it will keep getting worse.
 
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I heard about this article. It's a spin piece to try and run damage control for Biden. Yes, we might have a recession, but it won't be so bad. Here is why it's Trumps fault. Yes, I am sure all the rich people won't mind a recession.

I watched this video the other day.

Two bubbles are about to pop. The housing bubble and another tech bubble. If anyone is old enough to remember, we had a tech bubble pop in 2000. A lot of people lost jobs. Then the next year we had 9/11 and things got worse. Of course, 9/11 didn't cause it all. They are called corrections. The housing market is out of control and prices are way too high. The government should have let it pop years ago, but they kept inflating it. When this tech bubble pops you might see a lot of stuff like Uber, Grub Hub and Whatsapp go out of business. Anything tech relates is going to take a big hit. There will probably be a lot of unemployed street shitters soon. Hopefully they all go back to India. This could even affect social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook which are already having issues.

I was watching a video by Styxhexenhammer the other day and he said if one of them pops we could go into a recession if they both pop it will be a depression. I know about Styx's weirdness. I find him to be a bit cringey. He voted for Obama twice when he was younger and poorer than he is now. Now that has been a little successful and has money he swings towards republicans. It makes him a bit of a hypocrite IMO. So, I take most of the stuff he says with a grain of salt. Like a lot of the human text to speech translators he is just a good way to get news without having to give some website clicks. If Styx is right or whoever he got the information from is right, it could be worse than recession. Either way it's going to destroy the Democrats politically and just make Trumps chances of winning in 2024 much easier.

I watched this video years. Probably around the late 2000's. I can still remember it.

The US is just feeling the effects of trying to survive as a service nation. That's what all these recessions and everything are about. In the video he talks about a lot of the stuff you heard people talk about in the past like Boomers retiring and peak oil. I don't think the whole peak oil scenario ever really played out and the Boomers have been retiring for a while. But I think the one thing that has impacted the economy and has been taking a toll on it for decades now is the loss of the US manufacturing base. This only got worse throughout the 90's and early 2000's. Peter Zeihan said deglobalization is happening no matter who is president. It's like they can tell this isn't working. Especially with what's been going on with Covid and China.

Saying there is plenty of jobs isn't entirely untrue. There are plenty of jobs, but they are low paying jobs. Mostly low paying service jobs. I do not believe Americans are flushed with cash. Some of them were with all the Covid stimulus. But that money is probably all gone now. With the drop in consumer spending and everything. $1,500 is like nothing now. You can go through that in a few days depending on what you buy. Like the video says, the US can't survive as a service economy. You have to produce something. You can't keep shipping products into here expecting to sell them to unemployed people and people working for low wages.

I am not being some kind of doom splainer. I don't think the US economy is going to collapse anytime soon. But it will keep getting worse.
Once the tech and housing bubbles pop is there any hopes of western nations seeing a revival in manufacturing?
 
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