US Supreme Court sides with inmate who wants to die by firing squad - Firing Squads? Never stopped trusting the plan.

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(CNN) — The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled in favor of a death row inmate in Georgia who is challenging the state's lethal injection protocol and seeks to die by firing squad -- a method not currently authorized in the state.

The court said the inmate could bring the challenge under a federal civil rights law that allows individuals to seek remedies when their Constitutional rights are violated. The decision could make it easier for inmates to challenge their potential execution method.

The 5-4 majority opinion was written by Justice Elena Kagan, with Justice Amy Coney Barrett penning a dissent joined by Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch.
Kagan said that the law at issue, Section 1983, "broadly authorizes suit against state officials for the deprivation of any rights secured by the Constitution."

"Read literally," she said, "that language would apply to all of a prisoner's constitutional claims."

Barrett, in her dissent, countered: "An inmate can use §1983 actions to challenge many, if not most, aspects of prison administration. But when a challenge would prevent a State from enforcing a conviction or sentence, the more rigorous, federalism-protective requirements of habeas apply."

Although Barrett noted that she "understand the impulse" for prisoners to use civil rights suits rather than habeas petitions to bring such claims given the obstacles to the latter, she concluded that the proper forum for such challenges are state, rather than federal, courts.

Matthew Hellman, a partner at Jenner & Block who represented the inmate, said in a statement Thursday that the decision gives the inmate "a pathway to seek a humane and lawful execution."

"We're very gratified by the Court's decision, which confirms that prisoners have judicial recourse to seek protection from cruel and unusual punishment," Hellman said.

Michael Nance, sentenced to death in 2002, argued that Georgia's lethal injection protocol would amount to cruel and unusual punishment in his case because he has compromised veins. He is seeking to die by firing squad, a method that is not currently a part of Georgia's protocol.

In 1993, he stole a car and drove it to a bank in Georgia. He entered the bank carrying a revolver and wearing a ski mask and demanded the tellers put money in a pillowcase. The tellers slipped two dye packets into the bag which released red dye and tear gas when Nance returned to his car. He abandoned the money, ran to a nearby parking lot and shot an innocent bystander, Gabor Balogh, in an attempted carjacking.

At issue before the justices was how Nance could bring his challenge. Supreme Court precedent requires a prisoner challenging his method of execution to identify an alternative method of execution that would not violate his constitutional rights. Nance, however, suggested a method -- firing squad -- that is not currently authorized in Georgia. He had exhausted his ability to bring a habeas claim in federal court, and his only remaining option was to use Section 1983 of civil rights law.
 
Bullets and a wall are probably cheaper and quicker than whatever medical concoction and apparatus are necessary to 'humanely' kill an inmate by lethal injection.
The concoctions probably doesn't even come close in terms of cost compared to the bureaucracy.

I remember reading just how fucking long it takes to get an inmate executed. The guy in this article was sentenced to death twenty years ago. That's twenty years of your tax dollars to keep this guy alive.

Just shoot them already and get it over with.
 
I remember reading just how fucking long it takes to get an inmate executed. The guy in this article was sentenced to death twenty years ago. That's twenty years of your tax dollars to keep this guy alive.

Just shoot them already and get it over with.
death penalty has a crazy appeal process. though it makes some sense, you kill somebody and you can't undo that, or give compensation for wrongful death.
you can undo a wrongful prison sentence, and you can provide comensation if you don't undo it quick enough. if you kill soemoen, they stay dead forever.
 
death penalty has a crazy appeal process. though it makes some sense, you kill somebody and you can't undo that, or give compensation for wrongful death.
you can undo a wrongful prison sentence, and you can provide comensation if you don't undo it quick enough. if you kill soemoen, they stay dead forever.
Wrongfill convictions will inevitably happen. It's a terrible thing but also a fact of life. Of course efforts must be made to mitigate this as much as possible. But purposely delaying a death penalty sounds to me more as a way of psychologically coping with this painful fact rather than an actual mitigation procedure. How many times has it happened anyway that a death penalty got un-done much later on?
 
death penalty has a crazy appeal process. though it makes some sense, you kill somebody and you can't undo that, or give compensation for wrongful death.
you can undo a wrongful prison sentence, and you can provide comensation if you don't undo it quick enough. if you kill soemoen, they stay dead forever.
Is it better or worse to spend decades in prison for a crime you didn't commit than to be executed? One of America's longest-serving prisoners is Francis Clifford Smith, he was convicted in 1949 and only released in 2020 at the age of 94, and apparently there's strong evidence that he didn't commit the crime. Is that a better fate than being executed? Spending a lifetime institutionalised knowing you didn't do it? That sounds like mental torture.
 
on the one hand, firing squad, hanging, and guillotine are more effective and less painful than the electrocution or lethal injection so it makes sense to allow a prisoner to elect them

on the other hand, lmao death row inmates deserve to suffer
I'm all in favor of allowing deathrow inmates to have their pickings of an execution method.

I'd go for the Guillotine before going for the electric socket.
Electricity isn't cheap anymore.
 
Can I ask to be killed via helium tank? That way I die laughing and my death rattle will sound like a squeek toy and give people a giggle. Imagine if someone does that and they are later found innocent. Do you laugh even harder at the squeaky death rattle given the innocent guy was nice enough to make people laugh even though he knew he was going to be murdered?
 
Stories of people getting the lethal injection process but feeling everything are horrifying. They’d give drugs that paralyzed the person, but be a bit too stingy for the other drugs that affected pain, so they’d be perfectly still while slowly and painfully dying.
 
The tellers slipped two dye packets into the bag which released red dye and tear gas when Nance returned to his car. He abandoned the money, ran to a nearby parking lot and shot an innocent bystander, Gabor Balogh, in an attempted carjacking.
I've never agreed with these types of "countermeasures", what benefit is it? Maybe the scumbag wouldn't have gunned down a bystander if he just made off with the money instead of it being rendered unusable, doesn't seem worth it.

I understand the bastard is at fault in the end, but it still doesn't seem like a good idea.
 
I've never agreed with these types of "countermeasures", what benefit is it? Maybe the scumbag wouldn't have gunned down a bystander if he just made off with the money instead of it being rendered unusable, doesn't seem worth it.

I understand the bastard is at fault in the end, but it still doesn't seem like a good idea.
Also what happens if he catches you fucking with the money? Sounds like a great way to turn a robbery into a murder. I know that if I were a bank teller I wouldn't be risking my life to save some of Mr. Shekelstein's money.
 
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