Went through like something 40 pages of this thread. Some thoughts and responses
I unironically think some deranged women will start IRL fedposting over this, RvW is one of the foremost pillars of the progressive religion.
How quaint--you actually the same rules to leftist pigs. Did you not learn your lesson. Looting, violance and mayhem aok in the name of St George. Unruly protests to petition government for very legitimate concersn about mass fraud is traitorous sedition,
Well the same things that apply to Roe vs Wade apply to Marriage.
There is nothing in the Federal Government that comments about Marriage thus it should be entirely in the hands of the States.
No. If you read the opinion, it expressly disclaims that. The opinion has expressly delineated prenatal life as a legitmate state interest that distinguishes this case from everything else.
Looking forward to all the usual cows getting twitter bans for poorly written death threats in reaction to this.
See above re St George vs Jan 6th. It's (D)ifferent when they do it, and that is no clearer than how twitter enforces its nebulous opaque rules against one side and not at ll against the other..
This Redditor sure put everyone in this thread in their place!
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Nothing we have not seen before. F Roger Devlin, third wave feminists being hypergamous hoes who advocate no standards for women but vert high standards for men (that discrepancy is best demonstrated by the horrible Lainey Molnar)
Out of curiosity, will terminating a non-viable (i.e. chemical or ectopic) pregnancy result in charges being brought against the mother? In what circumstance is medical intervention that could result in the death of the fetus illegal?
It seems like another person who just does not understand the ruling. All this does is return it back to states. The answer to your question varies on a state by state basis, as it ought to.
Remember kids. When they say "our democracy" they do not mean YOUR democracy too. They mean THEIR democracy.
Any process of government that supports THEIR democracy is good, and true and you are a traitor to oppose it. Any process that goes in favor of YOUR democracy is illegitimate and must be opposed totally, up to and including the use of extra judicial violence and murder.
If in the process of that extra judicial violence you lose your property or are killed, the people who did it will be released and never charged. Because they would be defending THEIR democracy. From YOU.
Yes absolutely. They impose a soft tyranny now but they will raise it to a hard tyranny in a nano second, and yet so many who disagree with the Left fail to see this. The left is defined by cognitive dissonance and doublethink. They talk about democracy eitehr will not or cannot read or comprehend Dobbs and the line of cases it reasonably and judiciously overturned. All they want is power, and they don't care how they get it.
Wait a minute, doesn't gun laws vary from state to state? Now it's abortion that is left between the states? Shouldn't they both be federally protected?
That said, women's rights have gone the way of the dodo since feminism became radicalized.
No, because the Constitution explicitly references right to bear arms, in the bill of rights. The Constitution is silent on abortion. Read the Dobbs opinion.
> Democratically controlled Congress
> Democrat president
> Supreme Court strikes down a ruling even RBG called a legal mess
They could try to pass a law.
But they won't!
I really think the DNC made a decision to refrain from codifying Roe for a variety of reasons. One they like using SCOTUS as a vehicle for a power grad. The Dobbs opinion expressly mentioned this as a reason why it should be overturned.
Beyond that, the threat of overturning Roe is a great way to manipulate the DNC bug eyed lemmings. It gets them motivated, in the game. Codify Roe on a federal level and the DNC loses that energy in its base.
Why the fuck is everyone freaking out about this? Wasn’t this shit leaked months ago?
The gun ruling is going to make big cities a lot less safe, so the flyover state hillbillies should love that, but heck, I’m getting armed now.
Yes but it could easily have gone the other way. Rumor has it Roberts was trying to poach Kavanugh. In Casey, SCOTUS was set to overturn Roe, but Kennedy flipped, reportedly at the final hour.
Yep, over half of women who have abortions were using at least one form of protection. The prolifer/incel strawman of women who get abortions as all irresponsible sluts having unprotected sex with everyone (except the poster obv) is largely untrue, though even if it was those are the last kinds of women that should be having kids.
Do you have any states at all to back this claim. This Tiger is very dubious of your claims.
Anyone else tired of the comparisons to Handmaid's Tale?
Yes. It's stupid. Christianity is nothing like that, the closest thing is Fundamentalist Islam. Although with the demographic witner in Europe, there is a case to be made that women should be compelled, that a state and civilization needs to be pronatalist. If the right wing authoritarin state I endorse ever comes to be (alas doubtful at this late stage), I would never advocate sometning like Handmaid's Tale, it is all so ridiculous, But generations of women being sluts, being totally unfit as wives and potential mothers, let alone girlfriens WILL DESTROY Europe and the West.
How are women and girls who don't have cars or can't afford transportation supposed to go to another state? Or take that much time off work? What about women deep in the Bible belt, where all the surrounding states are also on that Taliban shit as well?
That's not the province of SCOTUS. SCOUTS and the judiciary's role is to apply and interpret laws, SCOTUS particularly with the constituton. There are valid policy considerations in favor of abortion rights, but that is not the job of SCOTUS. So many people should just not be allowed to vote because they do not show they have even a working grasp of high school civics material. Probably a reason why we need to end the Democracy experiment, at least until the populace can be restored to having some basic classical education.
WEAR. PROTECTION. It's almost like unsafe sex has *gasp* consequences or something!
Condoms do suck. Better would be less rampant hyper promiscuity but a puritan state either...
The Left thought they could intimidate a Supreme Court Justice into changing their vote out of fear. It backfired and they actually lost one of the Justices who was previously on their side.
Has it been cofnrimed that Roberts was leaning with the dissent?
Ah yes, I can’t wait to see the rise of emotionally and physically neglected children by their single mothers who never wanted them and will not care for them, without a father figure, spend already thin resources of an already overpopulated planet, only to go out in the world mentally ill and deranged, get knocked up or knock someone up, so the cycle can repeat. Or alternatively, they get put up for adoption only to get passed around a few more emotionally and physically abusive foster homes. At least they will have guns to kill themselves after fucking up the next generation.
Truly, THE America.
This is a valid concern Does anyone have a breakdown of how many blacks and single moms are in abortin ban states? Still not the correct provice of SCOTUS.
It's a beanflicking fantasy for ugly legbeards who fantasise about being dominated. In the real world nobody wants a sex slave that looks like this:
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That's why they're mad
Bean-flicking? Please these roasties use all sorts of bizarre objects and sex toys. Need more and more extreme forms of stimulation to get an ever diminishing high.
Banning abortion will just spawn more of those degenerates.
Abortion not banned, returned to states. it is a legitimate concern that fundy christian red states will cause more undesirables to be born. That is why I embrace the dissident right a la the European perspective.
I'd guess the states where this is the biggest problem already have insane pro abortion laws anyway so....
Congratulations Cuckservatives, congratulations...
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I'm torn on this one. On one hand, I think the screeching from irresponsible people who want to get their rocks off with no consequences is hilarious, but on the other, these people really shouldn't be breeding anyway.
I dont think that is entirely true. A lot of white women have been sucked into the BLM, woke thing, because women go with whatever trend is dominant. That's why French women pulled their ankles around their shoulders for German servicemen and German women did the same once Germany was defeated.
Some should not breed, but many of them are otherwise potentially lovely women who have been ruined by a poisonous cultural milieu. I am not sure democracy can fix that. Suffice it to say some people should be forced to get abortions, and others should not be alloed to at all if the child is sired by the right dad, but such an enlightened perspective will not happen unless we get a Franco, Pinochet or even Putin style strongman to end the chaos and instill order through right-wing, authoritarian populism.