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The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.
The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” he writes in the document, labeled as the “Opinion of the Court.” “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”


Deliberations on controversial cases have in the past been fluid. Justices can and sometimes do change their votes as draft opinions circulate and major decisions can be subject to multiple drafts and vote-trading, sometimes until just days before a decision is unveiled. The court’s holding will not be final until it is published, likely in the next two months.
The immediate impact of the ruling as drafted in February would be to end a half-century guarantee of federal constitutional protection of abortion rights and allow each state to decide whether to restrict or ban abortion. It’s unclear if there have been subsequent changes to the draft.
No draft decision in the modern history of the court has been disclosed publicly while a case was still pending. The unprecedented revelation is bound to intensify the debate over what was already the most controversial case on the docket this term.
The draft opinion offers an extraordinary window into the justices’ deliberations in one of the most consequential cases before the court in the last five decades. Some court-watchers predicted that the conservative majority would slice away at abortion rights without flatly overturning a 49-year-old precedent. The draft shows that the court is looking to reject Roe’s logic and legal protections.
Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division.”
Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion
A person familiar with the court’s deliberations said that four of the other Republican-appointed justices – Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett – had voted with Alito in the conference held among the justices after hearing oral arguments in December, and that line-up remains unchanged as of this week.


The three Democratic-appointed justices – Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan – are working on one or more dissents, according to the person. How Chief Justice John Roberts will ultimately vote, and whether he will join an already written opinion or draft his own, is unclear.
The document, labeled as a first draft of the majority opinion, includes a notation that it was circulated among the justices on Feb. 10. If the Alito draft is adopted, it would rule in favor of Mississippi in the closely watched case over that state’s attempt to ban most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy.
A Supreme Court spokesperson declined to comment or make another representative of the court available to answer questions about the draft document.
POLITICO received a copy of the draft opinion from a person familiar with the court’s proceedings in the Mississippi case along with other details supporting the authenticity of the document. The draft opinion runs 98 pages, including a 31-page appendix of historical state abortion laws. The document is replete with citations to previous court decisions, books and other authorities, and includes 118 footnotes. The appearances and timing of this draft are consistent with court practice.
The disclosure of Alito’s draft majority opinion – a rare breach of Supreme Court secrecy and tradition around its deliberations – comes as all sides in the abortion debate are girding for the ruling. Speculation about the looming decision has been intense since the December oral arguments indicated a majority was inclined to support the Mississippi law.
Under longstanding court procedures, justices hold preliminary votes on cases shortly after argument and assign a member of the majority to write a draft of the court’s opinion. The draft is often amended in consultation with other justices, and in some cases the justices change their votes altogether, creating the possibility that the current alignment on Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization could change.
The chief justice typically assigns majority opinions when he is in the majority. When he is not, that decision is typically made by the most senior justice in the majority.

‘Exceptionally weak’​

A George W. Bush appointee who joined the court in 2006, Alito argues that the 1973 abortion rights ruling was an ill-conceived and deeply flawed decision that invented a right mentioned nowhere in the Constitution and unwisely sought to wrench the contentious issue away from the political branches of government.
Alito’s draft ruling would overturn a decision by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals that found the Mississippi law ran afoul of Supreme Court precedent by seeking to effectively ban abortions before viability.

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Roe’s “survey of history ranged from the constitutionally irrelevant to the plainly incorrect,” Alito continues, adding that its reasoning was “exceptionally weak,” and that the original decision has had “damaging consequences.”
“The inescapable conclusion is that a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the Nation’s history and traditions,” Alito writes.
Alito approvingly quotes a broad range of critics of the Roe decision. He also points to liberal icons such as the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe, who at certain points in their careers took issue with the reasoning in Roe or its impact on the political process.
Alito’s skewering of Roe and the endorsement of at least four other justices for that unsparing critique is also a measure of the court’s rightward turn in recent decades. Roe was decided 7-2 in 1973, with five Republican appointees joining two justices nominated by Democratic presidents.
The overturning of Roe would almost immediately lead to stricter limits on abortion access in large swaths of the South and Midwest, with about half of the states set to immediately impose broad abortion bans. Any state could still legally allow the procedure.
“The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion,” the draft concludes. “Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”
The draft contains the type of caustic rhetorical flourishes Alito is known for and that has caused Roberts, his fellow Bush appointee, some discomfort in the past.
At times, Alito’s draft opinion takes an almost mocking tone as it skewers the majority opinion in Roe, written by Justice Harry Blackmun, a Richard Nixon appointee who died in 1999.
Roe expressed the ‘feel[ing]’ that the Fourteenth Amendment was the provision that did the work, but its message seemed to be that the abortion right could be found somewhere in the Constitution and that specifying its exact location was not of paramount importance,” Alito writes.
Alito declares that one of the central tenets of Roe, the “viability” distinction between fetuses not capable of living outside the womb and those which can, “makes no sense.”
In several passages, he describes doctors and nurses who terminate pregnancies as “abortionists.”
When Roberts voted with liberal jurists in 2020 to block a Louisiana law imposing heavier regulations on abortion clinics, his solo concurrence used the more neutral term “abortion providers.” In contrast, Justice Clarence Thomas used the word “abortionist” 25 times in a solo dissent in the same case.


Alito’s use of the phrase “egregiously wrong” to describe Roe echoes language Mississippi Solicitor General Scott Stewart used in December in defending his state’s ban on abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. The phrase was also contained in an opinion Kavanaugh wrote as part of a 2020 ruling that jury convictions in criminal cases must be unanimous.
In that opinion, Kavanaugh labeled two well-known Supreme Court decisions “egregiously wrong when decided”: the 1944 ruling upholding the detention of Japanese Americans during World War II, Korematsu v. United States, and the 1896 decision that blessed racial segregation under the rubric of “separate but equal,” Plessy v. Ferguson.
The high court has never formally overturned Korematsu, but did repudiate the decision in a 2018 ruling by Roberts that upheld then-President Donald Trump’s travel ban policy.

The legacy of Plessy v. Ferguson​

Plessy remained the law of the land for nearly six decades until the court overturned it with the Brown v. Board of Education school desegregation ruling in 1954.
Quoting Kavanaugh, Alito writes of Plessy: “It was ‘egregiously wrong,’ on the day it was decided.”
Alito’s draft opinion includes, in small type, a list of about two pages’ worth of decisions in which the justices overruled prior precedents – in many instances reaching results praised by liberals.
The implication that allowing states to outlaw abortion is on par with ending legal racial segregation has been hotly disputed. But the comparison underscores the conservative justices’ belief that Roe is so flawed that the justices should disregard their usual hesitations about overturning precedent and wholeheartedly renounce it.
Alito’s draft opinion ventures even further into this racially sensitive territory by observing in a footnote that some early proponents of abortion rights also had unsavory views in favor of eugenics.
“Some such supporters have been motivated by a desire to suppress the size of the African American population,” Alito writes. “It is beyond dispute that Roe has had that demographic effect. A highly disproportionate percentage of aborted fetuses are black.”
Alito writes that by raising the point he isn’t casting aspersions on anyone. “For our part, we do not question the motives of either those who have supported and those who have opposed laws restricting abortion,” he writes.
Alito also addresses concern about the impact the decision could have on public discourse. “We cannot allow our decisions to be affected by any extraneous influences such as concern about the public’s reaction to our work,” Alito writes. “We do not pretend to know how our political system or society will respond to today’s decision overruling Roe and Casey. And even if we could foresee what will happen, we would have no authority to let that knowledge influence our decision.”


In the main opinion in the 1992 Casey decision, Justices Sandra Day O’Connor, Anthony Kennedy and Davis Souter warned that the court would pay a “terrible price” for overruling Roe, despite criticism of the decision from some in the public and the legal community.
“While it has engendered disapproval, it has not been unworkable,” the three justices wrote then. “An entire generation has come of age free to assume Roe‘s concept of liberty in defining the capacity of women to act in society, and to make reproductive decisions; no erosion of principle going to liberty or personal autonomy has left Roe‘s central holding a doctrinal remnant.”
When Dobbs was argued in December, Roberts seemed out of sync with the other conservative justices, as he has been in a number of cases including one challenging the Affordable Care Act.
At the argument session last fall, Roberts seemed to be searching for a way to uphold Mississippi’s 15-week ban without completely abandoning the Roe framework.
“Viability, it seems to me, doesn’t have anything to do with choice. But, if it really is an issue about choice, why is 15 weeks not enough time?” Roberts asked during the arguments. “The thing that is at issue before us today is 15 weeks.”

Nods to conservative colleagues​

While Alito’s draft opinion doesn’t cater much to Roberts’ views, portions of it seem intended to address the specific interests of other justices. One passage argues that social attitudes toward out-of-wedlock pregnancies “have changed drastically” since the 1970s and that increased demand for adoption makes abortion less necessary.
Those points dovetail with issues that Barrett – a Trump appointee and the court’s newest member – raised at the December arguments. She suggested laws allowing people to surrender newborn babies on a no-questions-asked basis mean carrying a pregnancy to term doesn’t oblige one to engage in child rearing.
“Why don’t the safe haven laws take care of that problem?” asked Barrett, who adopted two of her seven children.
Much of Alito’s draft is devoted to arguing that widespread criminalization of abortion during the 19th and early 20th century belies the notion that a right to abortion is implied in the Constitution.
The conservative justice attached to his draft a 31-page appendix listing laws passed to criminalize abortion during that period. Alito claims “an unbroken tradition of prohibiting abortion on pain of criminal punishment…from the earliest days of the common law until 1973.”


“Until the latter part of the 20th century, there was no support in American law for a constitutional right to obtain an abortion. Zero. None. No state constitutional provision had recognized such a right,” Alito adds.
Alito’s draft argues that rights protected by the Constitution but not explicitly mentioned in it – so-called unenumerated rights – must be strongly rooted in U.S. history and tradition. That form of analysis seems at odds with several of the court’s recent decisions, including many of its rulings backing gay rights.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled. The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision....”
Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion
Liberal justices seem likely to take issue with Alito’s assertion in the draft opinion that overturning Roe would not jeopardize other rights the courts have grounded in privacy, such as the right to contraception, to engage in private consensual sexual activity and to marry someone of the same sex.
“We emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” Alito writes. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”
Alito’s draft opinion rejects the idea that abortion bans reflect the subjugation of women in American society. “Women are not without electoral or political power,” he writes. “The percentage of women who register to vote and cast ballots is consistently higher than the percentage of men who do so.”
The Supreme Court remains one of Washington’s most secretive institutions, priding itself on protecting the confidentiality of its internal deliberations.
“At the Supreme Court, those who know don’t talk, and those who talk don’t know,” Ginsburg was fond of saying.
That tight-lipped reputation has eroded somewhat in recent decades due to a series of books by law clerks, law professors and investigative journalists. Some of these authors clearly had access to draft opinions such as the one obtained by POLITICO, but their books emerged well after the cases in question were resolved.
The justices held their final arguments of the current term on Wednesday. The court has set a series of sessions over the next two months to release rulings in its still-unresolved cases, including the Mississippi abortion case.
 
The thing that the Left will NEVER admit is...









...they did this themselves.

Starting about 10 years ago the Left got REALLY obnoxious about abortion to the point it was getting positively vile.

Bragging about how many abortions they had on TV, talking about how funny it was to tell a man they were getting an abortion and killing their child, all kinds of vile shit.

The clawing on the doors to the legislature and the Supreme Court. The fit throwing.

And the sheer noxious bile they were spewing everywhere about it.

Talking about how partial birth abortions were fine. Nurses laughing about how the baby's head would come out, it would look for its mother, and BAM! Dead.

Planned Parenthood turning out to be a fetal tissue mill and encouraging abortions even when women wanted to keep their baby.

Not ONE of the Left looked at their fellow Leftists and said "Um, this might not be a good look..."

Nope, they just doubled down.

That's not even looking that at any time they could have done legislation. Nope, they just screamed it was the Law of the Land and gleefully rubbed it in everyone's faces.

And now they're blaming the right for the entire problem.
C'mon. This is a perfectly healthy and reasonable attitude towards ending a human life.

 
A lot of states are trying to make it a felony for a woman to go to another state to get an abortion, too.

You religious nutjobs don't care about that, though. You just pretend to care about fetuses because your evangelical preacher told you to
And you don't care about babies being murdered at all. What does that make you? A sociopath? Just plain evil?

"OMG, Fundie bigots, if you aren't going to be financially responsible for our choices, you HAVE to let us kill them!!!" - HHH, 2022
 
C'mon. This is a perfectly healthy and reasonable attitude towards ending a human life.

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After her "comedy" show, I'd vote to repeal Women's Sufferage just to watch her cry on TV.

It's that exact fucking attitude.

The best thing I love is "As a man, you aren't allowed an opinion."

OK.

"Vote to support abortions."

LOL. No.
 
This is great! That's exactly what we need. More niggers, halfling niggers shit out by mud sharks, crack babies and feminists. We don't have enough of those people.

Trump ran and won as a Republican in 2016 and he never took a hard stance against abortion. He even stood on stage and said that planned parenthood does some good things. He still won as a Republican and he managed to win with Evangelical support. He beat Cruz in the south which was supposed to be where Ted Cruz was going to win. It proved that no one really cares about abortion anymore. Not even the Evangelicals. At the very least they understand there are more important issues than abortion.

Abortion is one of those issues Republicans like to drag out to try and get support. It's also a divide and conquer issue. Instead of talking about something with some substance that will actually get people to vote for you they drone on about abortion.

Back when I was in the alt-right they didn't seem to really care about abortion much. It's not that they liked it but everyone pretty agreed that abortion wasn't a big issue and there were other more important things. But I see some people on the far right going on about abortion like it's a big deal. Stopping abortion isn't going to get you more white people. Whites aren't aborting themselves into extinction. They just aren't having children. Mostly because they can't afford it. All you are going to get out of a ban on abortion is more niggers and feminists. Basically, everyone you don't like. It will most likely be more niggers because most feminists are white and will have the drive to seek out other ways to get abortions. With more niggers comes the extra expense as well.

I have to wonder why the SCOTUS is moving on this now. Could it be because they are worried about low voter turnout on the GOP side in the coming midterms and other elections? I don't think it will happen. But there has to be something that caused them to push this out right before the midterms. I guess you could go full blown conspiritard and think they are doing this to help the other side by getting the leftists all worked up. Something I don't think will have an impact either. I thought with Trump people were over the whole abortion thing and understood there were more important things to go try and accomplish.

But I guess some just can't give it up.
lol
"former alt-right" tard trying to threaten the right with more nigger.
Look at it this way. Before Roe v. Wade there wasn't a massive surge of black people. They were doing okay, economically perhaps even better than today.
What Roe v. Wade did was allow them to be as hedonistic as they want. They never stopped having children, they're just using the abortion service as an excuse not to be more careful with who they have unprotected sex with.
Abortion statistics are also fucky. It's often claimed that blacks perform more abortions than whites, but truth is the only statistics we have on abortion based on race comes from red states. Red states also happens to be where the highest percentage of black peoplee live. We have no idea how many people in California, New York, Pensnsylvania, or Colorado have abortions or what race they are.
If taking the right to an abortion away leads to a flood of niggers we'll cross that bridge when we get there. But I don't think the threat of a niggerwave is a good excuse to make shitty interpretations of the constitution and letting Planned Parenthood run around freely
 
Herein lies the problem with Roe v. Wade: It was already irrelevant long before today. In a lot of states, its almost impossible to find an abortion. Mind you, this is when Roe v. Wade was around. The opposition used every trick in the book to close down anyone who used them, and many states that don't want it barely have it or don't have it at all.

Roe v. Wade was an extremely weak piece of legislation that created a Catch-22: Abortion is legal in all states, except all states can work around it and not offer abortion anywhere if they want to. Functionally, yes, abortion was legal, but there was nowhere you can get it.

This has been acknowledged as a major problem of Roe v. Wade since forever. Prior to this decision, some states didn't even have abortion clinics. So what was the point?

Here's the thing: Even with super-majorities, this could have been fixed. But no one bothered to do it. This outcome was inevitable, as if states can already work around Roe to outlaw abortion, than Roe v. Wade is utterly pointless. The Democrats are absolutely useless about legislating and didn't bother to do it and then act shocked that it got overturned.

Now it got overturned and basically nothing is going to change. States that want abortion aren't going to suddenly outlaw it and states that don't want it already have it completely gone, nearly gone or so complex there's like one place in the state to get an abortion.

This is the fault of the Democratic party, who don't care about you, won't lift a finger and the blame anyone else from a problem that was said since the inception of the decision. In 2008, this could have been rectified. But even with a Democratic supermajority, abortion rights were utterly destroyed in many states, and the government did nothing. Because those were red states, and it affected poor red state voters, for whom the Democrats and their base do not give a singular fuck about. You reap what you sow.

The government never protected Roe, it just hid behind the decision so it didn't have to do anything to scare off Catholic Hispanics or Religious blacks to cost them votes. Why do you think it was never legislated? They might lose votes! Now that the inevitable has occurred, we have probably the weakest possible administration to do it who are beset by dozens upon dozens of problems, none of them even attempting to be fixed (except the lol gas tax holiday which corps will use to buy up as much as they can and drive up demand which will drive up the price back to where it was). So what are they going to do now? Nothing. They're just going to whine about it. They're already losing Hispanics and attempting shit about abortion might make them lose more so they'll just bitch and moan about a problem they themselves created.
Dear lord so much fucking stupid! Look Roe v Wade was not Legislation that in fact was the problem with it. It was a rogue Supreme Court making law through Judicial Fiat. That’s why it was overturned. Alito said “fine, you want abortion go pass some laws. This belongs in the legislatures not the court”
 
See, it's posts like this which show you are an incel. "LOL LETS MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE WHO GET LAID WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS"

People are gonna have sex. I know it upsets you religious fundies, but it's gonna happen. Abortion should be rare, which can be accomplished by expanding access to birth control. Instead, you religious zealots are trying to ban that next.

Uh huh. Then stop posting like you are.

Birth control can fail. If you weren't an incel shutin who actually had relationships, you'd know that.

So you're fine removing women's bodily autonomy, but not men's. The method I laid would be reversible and would all but eliminate unwanted pregnancies. But you don't actually care about fetuses, you just want to punish women who are having sex with guys who aren't you. But you totally don't hate women.

Anyway, I am done with work soon so I am heading out. Won't be posting tonight probably. Enjoy your night reading the bible, everyone
Fundie fundie republican right bible, incels go have sex. You really do make the forum "not a hugbox" or some stupid shit like that I guess.
This is great! That's exactly what we need. More niggers, halfling niggers shit out by mud sharks, crack babies and feminists. We don't have enough of those people.

Trump ran and won as a Republican in 2016 and he never took a hard stance against abortion. He even stood on stage and said that planned parenthood does some good things. He still won as a Republican and he managed to win with Evangelical support. He beat Cruz in the south which was supposed to be where Ted Cruz was going to win. It proved that no one really cares about abortion anymore. Not even the Evangelicals. At the very least they understand there are more important issues than abortion.

Abortion is one of those issues Republicans like to drag out to try and get support. It's also a divide and conquer issue. Instead of talking about something with some substance that will actually get people to vote for you they drone on about abortion.

Back when I was in the alt-right they didn't seem to really care about abortion much. It's not that they liked it but everyone pretty agreed that abortion wasn't a big issue and there were other more important things. But I see some people on the far right going on about abortion like it's a big deal. Stopping abortion isn't going to get you more white people. Whites aren't aborting themselves into extinction. They just aren't having children. Mostly because they can't afford it. All you are going to get out of a ban on abortion is more niggers and feminists. Basically, everyone you don't like. It will most likely be more niggers because most feminists are white and will have the drive to seek out other ways to get abortions. With more niggers comes the extra expense as well.

I have to wonder why the SCOTUS is moving on this now. Could it be because they are worried about low voter turnout on the GOP side in the coming midterms and other elections? I don't think it will happen. But there has to be something that caused them to push this out right before the midterms. I guess you could go full blown conspiritard and think they are doing this to help the other side by getting the leftists all worked up. Something I don't think will have an impact either. I thought with Trump people were over the whole abortion thing and understood there were more important things to go try and accomplish.

But I guess some just can't give it up.
No, you're right. The best idea is to be as timid as possible and never actually start gaining ground on any issues you actually care about. What the fuck are you talking about? If anything with this incoming "Red Wave" its the perfect time to do this and rally people to a cause. Actually do shit instead of just promising it.
 
Absolutely correct. The State is their God, with Scientists ™ as the Priesthood and politicians as the Inquisitors.
And plenty of the more radical ones are probably still pissed that the Soviet Union collapsed, so they want to build a version of it here. I know it's not a perfect analogy but they want a similar level of control over anyone who they consider not just like them.
 
lol
"former alt-right" tard trying to threaten the right with more nigger.
Look at it this way. Before Roe v. Wade there wasn't a massive surge of black people. They were doing okay, economically perhaps even better than today.
What Roe v. Wade did was allow them to be as hedonistic as they want. They never stopped having children, they're just using the abortion service as an excuse not to be more careful with who they have unprotected sex with.
Abortion statistics are also fucky. It's often claimed that blacks perform more abortions than whites, but truth is the only statistics we have on abortion based on race comes from red states. Red states also happens to be where the highest percentage of black peoplee live. We have no idea how many people in California, New York, Pensnsylvania, or Colorado have abortions or what race they are.
If taking the right to an abortion away leads to a flood of niggers we'll cross that bridge when we get there. But I don't think the threat of a niggerwave is a good excuse to make shitty interpretations of the constitution and letting Planned Parenthood run around freely
It's not a threat. You will get more niggers and more feminists. Calling it a threat makes it seem like it's not true. It's 100% true.

Exactly what is going happen with the increase in nigger population? You said we'll cross that bridge when we come to it? How? LOL

Don't worry there will be plenty of nigger babies for normie white conservative couples to adopt so they can prove to everyone else how not racist they are. LOL

People won't do shit about the increase in nigger population just like they aren't doing anything about the niggers now. Just grin and eat shit.

To all the incels. No this does not mean women will fuck you now. LOL

There will still be condoms and birth control pills. Good lucking taking them away. If anyone says it will happen, they are just autistic LARPer's. You can't go around and crying in peoples faces about muh dead babies with condoms and birth control pills. Women will just use birth control pills and condoms. I know as incel loser faggot you probably have no experience with real women so you don't know about the sluts running around with bandoliers of condoms.

Enjoy your niggers. LOL
 
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I will say this: we have a bunch of motherfucker conflating "Elective Abortions" vs. "medically necessary" abortions.

All of these States that have implemented an Abortion Ban, have only outlawed Elective Abortions. From there, most all of these States have carveouts for allowing abortion in cases of Rape and Incest. So States like Texas aren't telling women with life threatening ectopic pregnancies that they can't get an abortion.

It's a ban on using Abortion as birth control.
 
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