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The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.
The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” he writes in the document, labeled as the “Opinion of the Court.” “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”


Deliberations on controversial cases have in the past been fluid. Justices can and sometimes do change their votes as draft opinions circulate and major decisions can be subject to multiple drafts and vote-trading, sometimes until just days before a decision is unveiled. The court’s holding will not be final until it is published, likely in the next two months.
The immediate impact of the ruling as drafted in February would be to end a half-century guarantee of federal constitutional protection of abortion rights and allow each state to decide whether to restrict or ban abortion. It’s unclear if there have been subsequent changes to the draft.
No draft decision in the modern history of the court has been disclosed publicly while a case was still pending. The unprecedented revelation is bound to intensify the debate over what was already the most controversial case on the docket this term.
The draft opinion offers an extraordinary window into the justices’ deliberations in one of the most consequential cases before the court in the last five decades. Some court-watchers predicted that the conservative majority would slice away at abortion rights without flatly overturning a 49-year-old precedent. The draft shows that the court is looking to reject Roe’s logic and legal protections.
Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division.”
Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion
A person familiar with the court’s deliberations said that four of the other Republican-appointed justices – Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett – had voted with Alito in the conference held among the justices after hearing oral arguments in December, and that line-up remains unchanged as of this week.


The three Democratic-appointed justices – Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan – are working on one or more dissents, according to the person. How Chief Justice John Roberts will ultimately vote, and whether he will join an already written opinion or draft his own, is unclear.
The document, labeled as a first draft of the majority opinion, includes a notation that it was circulated among the justices on Feb. 10. If the Alito draft is adopted, it would rule in favor of Mississippi in the closely watched case over that state’s attempt to ban most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy.
A Supreme Court spokesperson declined to comment or make another representative of the court available to answer questions about the draft document.
POLITICO received a copy of the draft opinion from a person familiar with the court’s proceedings in the Mississippi case along with other details supporting the authenticity of the document. The draft opinion runs 98 pages, including a 31-page appendix of historical state abortion laws. The document is replete with citations to previous court decisions, books and other authorities, and includes 118 footnotes. The appearances and timing of this draft are consistent with court practice.
The disclosure of Alito’s draft majority opinion – a rare breach of Supreme Court secrecy and tradition around its deliberations – comes as all sides in the abortion debate are girding for the ruling. Speculation about the looming decision has been intense since the December oral arguments indicated a majority was inclined to support the Mississippi law.
Under longstanding court procedures, justices hold preliminary votes on cases shortly after argument and assign a member of the majority to write a draft of the court’s opinion. The draft is often amended in consultation with other justices, and in some cases the justices change their votes altogether, creating the possibility that the current alignment on Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization could change.
The chief justice typically assigns majority opinions when he is in the majority. When he is not, that decision is typically made by the most senior justice in the majority.

‘Exceptionally weak’​

A George W. Bush appointee who joined the court in 2006, Alito argues that the 1973 abortion rights ruling was an ill-conceived and deeply flawed decision that invented a right mentioned nowhere in the Constitution and unwisely sought to wrench the contentious issue away from the political branches of government.
Alito’s draft ruling would overturn a decision by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals that found the Mississippi law ran afoul of Supreme Court precedent by seeking to effectively ban abortions before viability.

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Roe’s “survey of history ranged from the constitutionally irrelevant to the plainly incorrect,” Alito continues, adding that its reasoning was “exceptionally weak,” and that the original decision has had “damaging consequences.”
“The inescapable conclusion is that a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the Nation’s history and traditions,” Alito writes.
Alito approvingly quotes a broad range of critics of the Roe decision. He also points to liberal icons such as the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe, who at certain points in their careers took issue with the reasoning in Roe or its impact on the political process.
Alito’s skewering of Roe and the endorsement of at least four other justices for that unsparing critique is also a measure of the court’s rightward turn in recent decades. Roe was decided 7-2 in 1973, with five Republican appointees joining two justices nominated by Democratic presidents.
The overturning of Roe would almost immediately lead to stricter limits on abortion access in large swaths of the South and Midwest, with about half of the states set to immediately impose broad abortion bans. Any state could still legally allow the procedure.
“The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion,” the draft concludes. “Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”
The draft contains the type of caustic rhetorical flourishes Alito is known for and that has caused Roberts, his fellow Bush appointee, some discomfort in the past.
At times, Alito’s draft opinion takes an almost mocking tone as it skewers the majority opinion in Roe, written by Justice Harry Blackmun, a Richard Nixon appointee who died in 1999.
Roe expressed the ‘feel[ing]’ that the Fourteenth Amendment was the provision that did the work, but its message seemed to be that the abortion right could be found somewhere in the Constitution and that specifying its exact location was not of paramount importance,” Alito writes.
Alito declares that one of the central tenets of Roe, the “viability” distinction between fetuses not capable of living outside the womb and those which can, “makes no sense.”
In several passages, he describes doctors and nurses who terminate pregnancies as “abortionists.”
When Roberts voted with liberal jurists in 2020 to block a Louisiana law imposing heavier regulations on abortion clinics, his solo concurrence used the more neutral term “abortion providers.” In contrast, Justice Clarence Thomas used the word “abortionist” 25 times in a solo dissent in the same case.


Alito’s use of the phrase “egregiously wrong” to describe Roe echoes language Mississippi Solicitor General Scott Stewart used in December in defending his state’s ban on abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. The phrase was also contained in an opinion Kavanaugh wrote as part of a 2020 ruling that jury convictions in criminal cases must be unanimous.
In that opinion, Kavanaugh labeled two well-known Supreme Court decisions “egregiously wrong when decided”: the 1944 ruling upholding the detention of Japanese Americans during World War II, Korematsu v. United States, and the 1896 decision that blessed racial segregation under the rubric of “separate but equal,” Plessy v. Ferguson.
The high court has never formally overturned Korematsu, but did repudiate the decision in a 2018 ruling by Roberts that upheld then-President Donald Trump’s travel ban policy.

The legacy of Plessy v. Ferguson​

Plessy remained the law of the land for nearly six decades until the court overturned it with the Brown v. Board of Education school desegregation ruling in 1954.
Quoting Kavanaugh, Alito writes of Plessy: “It was ‘egregiously wrong,’ on the day it was decided.”
Alito’s draft opinion includes, in small type, a list of about two pages’ worth of decisions in which the justices overruled prior precedents – in many instances reaching results praised by liberals.
The implication that allowing states to outlaw abortion is on par with ending legal racial segregation has been hotly disputed. But the comparison underscores the conservative justices’ belief that Roe is so flawed that the justices should disregard their usual hesitations about overturning precedent and wholeheartedly renounce it.
Alito’s draft opinion ventures even further into this racially sensitive territory by observing in a footnote that some early proponents of abortion rights also had unsavory views in favor of eugenics.
“Some such supporters have been motivated by a desire to suppress the size of the African American population,” Alito writes. “It is beyond dispute that Roe has had that demographic effect. A highly disproportionate percentage of aborted fetuses are black.”
Alito writes that by raising the point he isn’t casting aspersions on anyone. “For our part, we do not question the motives of either those who have supported and those who have opposed laws restricting abortion,” he writes.
Alito also addresses concern about the impact the decision could have on public discourse. “We cannot allow our decisions to be affected by any extraneous influences such as concern about the public’s reaction to our work,” Alito writes. “We do not pretend to know how our political system or society will respond to today’s decision overruling Roe and Casey. And even if we could foresee what will happen, we would have no authority to let that knowledge influence our decision.”


In the main opinion in the 1992 Casey decision, Justices Sandra Day O’Connor, Anthony Kennedy and Davis Souter warned that the court would pay a “terrible price” for overruling Roe, despite criticism of the decision from some in the public and the legal community.
“While it has engendered disapproval, it has not been unworkable,” the three justices wrote then. “An entire generation has come of age free to assume Roe‘s concept of liberty in defining the capacity of women to act in society, and to make reproductive decisions; no erosion of principle going to liberty or personal autonomy has left Roe‘s central holding a doctrinal remnant.”
When Dobbs was argued in December, Roberts seemed out of sync with the other conservative justices, as he has been in a number of cases including one challenging the Affordable Care Act.
At the argument session last fall, Roberts seemed to be searching for a way to uphold Mississippi’s 15-week ban without completely abandoning the Roe framework.
“Viability, it seems to me, doesn’t have anything to do with choice. But, if it really is an issue about choice, why is 15 weeks not enough time?” Roberts asked during the arguments. “The thing that is at issue before us today is 15 weeks.”

Nods to conservative colleagues​

While Alito’s draft opinion doesn’t cater much to Roberts’ views, portions of it seem intended to address the specific interests of other justices. One passage argues that social attitudes toward out-of-wedlock pregnancies “have changed drastically” since the 1970s and that increased demand for adoption makes abortion less necessary.
Those points dovetail with issues that Barrett – a Trump appointee and the court’s newest member – raised at the December arguments. She suggested laws allowing people to surrender newborn babies on a no-questions-asked basis mean carrying a pregnancy to term doesn’t oblige one to engage in child rearing.
“Why don’t the safe haven laws take care of that problem?” asked Barrett, who adopted two of her seven children.
Much of Alito’s draft is devoted to arguing that widespread criminalization of abortion during the 19th and early 20th century belies the notion that a right to abortion is implied in the Constitution.
The conservative justice attached to his draft a 31-page appendix listing laws passed to criminalize abortion during that period. Alito claims “an unbroken tradition of prohibiting abortion on pain of criminal punishment…from the earliest days of the common law until 1973.”


“Until the latter part of the 20th century, there was no support in American law for a constitutional right to obtain an abortion. Zero. None. No state constitutional provision had recognized such a right,” Alito adds.
Alito’s draft argues that rights protected by the Constitution but not explicitly mentioned in it – so-called unenumerated rights – must be strongly rooted in U.S. history and tradition. That form of analysis seems at odds with several of the court’s recent decisions, including many of its rulings backing gay rights.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled. The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision....”
Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion
Liberal justices seem likely to take issue with Alito’s assertion in the draft opinion that overturning Roe would not jeopardize other rights the courts have grounded in privacy, such as the right to contraception, to engage in private consensual sexual activity and to marry someone of the same sex.
“We emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” Alito writes. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”
Alito’s draft opinion rejects the idea that abortion bans reflect the subjugation of women in American society. “Women are not without electoral or political power,” he writes. “The percentage of women who register to vote and cast ballots is consistently higher than the percentage of men who do so.”
The Supreme Court remains one of Washington’s most secretive institutions, priding itself on protecting the confidentiality of its internal deliberations.
“At the Supreme Court, those who know don’t talk, and those who talk don’t know,” Ginsburg was fond of saying.
That tight-lipped reputation has eroded somewhat in recent decades due to a series of books by law clerks, law professors and investigative journalists. Some of these authors clearly had access to draft opinions such as the one obtained by POLITICO, but their books emerged well after the cases in question were resolved.
The justices held their final arguments of the current term on Wednesday. The court has set a series of sessions over the next two months to release rulings in its still-unresolved cases, including the Mississippi abortion case.
 
Isn't this the same dipshit that ran a gofundme for his niece's surgery demanding his fans donate instead of paying out of pocket for her when he had millions? Then kept it up months after the surgery was concluded still taking in money?
More info on this?
 
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I can't recall the full details, but supposedly his niece was sick and needed surgery. Markiplier was worth millions at the time. So instead of paying for it himself, he sets up a gofundme and asks his fans to gib till it hurts. The thing is, other than him being able to pay for it himself, he kept the gofundme running well after the surgery was successful. It kept collecting more and more and I don't recall him promising any to charity so he likely pocketed it. He shut it down after people pointed out loud enough he was still collecting.
 
Null wasn't joking, these have been some of the worst fucking registrations in the history of the forum. Lurk moar.

July 4th can’t come soon enough


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You give your average nigger way too much credit. Niggers are known for being stupid, lazy and violent. Matter of fact the only thing they seem to put any real effort into is their crime and violence. It's going to happen. Right now, the right is doing their soylent grin routine about banning abortion. But in a decade or so when the nigger population starts to creep up, they will understand. No one is going to be fighting anyone in any kind of real way that's just faggot LARP shit. No niggers are going to Mexico and or Canada. They will stay right here where all duh free shit be at. At least in Africa when they get too many niggers, they can die of starvation. The stupid white people in the country won't allow that to happen. We take good care of our niggers. The only people killing them in large numbers are other niggers.

I am right. No nothing will happen. No one is doing anything about the niggers now and with millions more no one is going to do anything. Like I said I in a previous post. It will just be grin and eat shit.

Nothing is going to happen. Anyone who says so is a dumb LARPing faggot. It's not going to accelerate anything other than the growth of the nigger population in the US. Thanks, cucks.

There are other ways to stick a knife into the left and twist it. The SCOTUS ruling on the second amendment was one of them. But this ruling on abortion was like taking the knife out of the leg of the left and sticking it in your own gut. It made no sense and is super fucking stupid. Who really cares if a bunch of feminists and niggers want to be genetic dead ends? I know I sure don't.

I would say with the second amendment decision we could at least have guns to deal with the coming nigger hordes if needed. But it will probably be illegal to kill one in even in self-defense by then. Muh precious niggers.
The exiles and their wandering have been a failure for the Kiwi Farms.
 
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Hawai'i's reaction to the Roe vs. Wade ending has been calm, compared to other states. And again, that decision won't change a thing in that State, as abortion will still be allowed, in a way that CM Punk would approve.

This was also the State that at one point, had aborted fetuses on trucks, as part of an anti-abortion campaign. And people thought that Canadian Truckers and South Korean K-Pop Stans made truck protesting a thing...
“Right there is my eleven year-old son. I had him when I was 16. I didn’t choose to have an abortion but I had that right,” said Honolulu resident Kayla Brown. “And I have had multiple abortions -- two since then. And I had my reasoning for them that I don’t need to defend.”

I'm sure little Timmy just loves hearing about how you killed his siblings and he won't resent you for it at all. Hell, I know people who were informed their mom had a miscarriage and it pretty clearly hurt them knowing they could have had a sibling. I know if my mom told me "lol I killed your brother by ripping his arms off and crushing his skull because I can't take responsibility" I'd never speak to that bitch ever again.
 
My take on this whole RvW thing is that it’s just plain bad strategy on the part of team red for a few reasons:

1) forcing lefties to breed more is fucking retarded
2) abortion clinics were already going to suffer a decline in business over the next few years, thanks to the COVID shots fucking with fertility
3) giving ground on bodily autonomy is not something we can afford to do, not even a tiny little bit

Now, watching the flip outs is gonna be fun, I hope everyone invested in s’mores and popcorn…that being said, now they are gonna probably try court packing and I wish we had used our advantage to unambiguously ban lockdowns and mandates instead of on this. Also, at least with the 2nd Amendment ruling and the Rittenhouse case, at least we aren’t unambiguously lawful prey if rabid commies attack, and they ALSO have names and addresses 👁👁👁

This also isn’t gonna save team blue come midterms…runaway inflation, shortages, vaxx mandates and Sudden Adult Death Syndrome are gonna 👁TRUMP👁 RvW IMO…but I still wanna fight them smarter damnit
 
This is great! That's exactly what we need. More niggers, halfling niggers shit out by mud sharks, crack babies and feminists. We don't have enough of those people.

Trump ran and won as a Republican in 2016 and he never took a hard stance against abortion. He even stood on stage and said that planned parenthood does some good things. He still won as a Republican and he managed to win with Evangelical support. He beat Cruz in the south which was supposed to be where Ted Cruz was going to win. It proved that no one really cares about abortion anymore. Not even the Evangelicals. At the very least they understand there are more important issues than abortion.

Abortion is one of those issues Republicans like to drag out to try and get support. It's also a divide and conquer issue. Instead of talking about something with some substance that will actually get people to vote for you they drone on about abortion.

Back when I was in the alt-right they didn't seem to really care about abortion much. It's not that they liked it but everyone pretty agreed that abortion wasn't a big issue and there were other more important things. But I see some people on the far right going on about abortion like it's a big deal. Stopping abortion isn't going to get you more white people. Whites aren't aborting themselves into extinction. They just aren't having children. Mostly because they can't afford it. All you are going to get out of a ban on abortion is more niggers and feminists. Basically, everyone you don't like. It will most likely be more niggers because most feminists are white and will have the drive to seek out other ways to get abortions. With more niggers comes the extra expense as well.

I have to wonder why the SCOTUS is moving on this now. Could it be because they are worried about low voter turnout on the GOP side in the coming midterms and other elections? I don't think it will happen. But there has to be something that caused them to push this out right before the midterms. I guess you could go full blown conspiritard and think they are doing this to help the other side by getting the leftists all worked up. Something I don't think will have an impact either. I thought with Trump people were over the whole abortion thing and understood there were more important things to go try and accomplish.

But I guess some just can't give it up.
Problem with that:

1. there is no love lost for the bulk of the conservative judges for the left, especially since the left said the quiet part out loud about packing the court under Biden.

2. Alito and Thomas probably lost what respect they had for Roberts when he forced the court to backstab Trump and allow Biden to become President, with Thomas in particular knowing damn well that Biden would move to pack the courts the second he thought he could get away with it with no blowback. So this was them pulling a power play against Roberts, who probably wanted to half-measure shit to further restrict abortion in a microscopic manner while keeping it legal.

3. In the issue of political capital and sacrifice, the whole point of Trump becoming President in the eyes of a LOT of conservatives was the Supreme court and finally getting a solid majority over the liberal justices. And given what was sacrificed, culturally and power-wise, caving to Roberts demand that they shut up and let Biden and the Democrats steal the Presidency via outright theft? The conservative justices led by Thomas and Alito probably felt that it was now or never to start fucking shit up to punish the Democrats and finally start giving the conservatives what they wanted given that was why conservatives voted in Trump. Quid Pro Quo with the base, as far as them delivering on the shit that they kept promising for decades now that they can do it. Especially in light of how Biden betrayed his base by refusing blanket student debt relief/amnesty and legalizing pot.

TL;DR the conservative wing has the majority and they decided that they finally should start making changes to the law that they always promised they would make, especially since Alito and Thomas are pissed the fuck off that Roberts backstabbed Trump.
 
My take on this whole RvW thing is that it’s just plain bad strategy on the part of team red for a few reasons:

1) forcing lefties to breed more is fucking retarded
2) abortion clinics were already going to suffer a decline in business over the next few years, thanks to the COVID shots fucking with fertility
3) giving ground on bodily autonomy is not something we can afford to do, not even a tiny little bit

Now, watching the flip outs is gonna be fun, I hope everyone invested in s’mores and popcorn…that being said, now they are gonna probably try court packing and I wish we had used our advantage to unambiguously ban lockdowns and mandates instead of on this. Also, at least with the 2nd Amendment ruling and the Rittenhouse case, at least we aren’t unambiguously lawful prey if rabid commies attack, and they ALSO have names and addresses 👁👁👁

This also isn’t gonna save team blue come midterms…runaway inflation, shortages, vaxx mandates and Sudden Adult Death Syndrome are gonna 👁TRUMP👁 RvW IMO…but I still wanna fight them smarter damnit
Yeah, here's the thing
They already voluntarily sterilized themselves
 
“Right there is my eleven year-old son. I had him when I was 16. I didn’t choose to have an abortion but I had that right,” said Honolulu resident Kayla Brown. “And I have had multiple abortions -- two since then. And I had my reasoning for them that I don’t need to defend.”

I'm sure little Timmy just loves hearing about how you killed his siblings and he won't resent you for it at all. Hell, I know people who were informed their mom had a miscarriage and it pretty clearly hurt them knowing they could have had a sibling. I know if my mom told me "lol I killed your brother by ripping his arms off and crushing his skull because I can't take responsibility" I'd never speak to that bitch ever again.
Honestly, I don’t think you need to lose a potential sibling to know how a miscarriage can screw someone up and be devastating. Just watch the first 8-10 minutes of Up.
Problem with that:

1. there is no love lost for the bulk of the conservative judges for the left, especially since the left said the quiet part out loud about packing the court under Biden.

2. Alito and Thomas probably lost what respect they had for Roberts when he forced the court to backstab Trump and allow Biden to become President, with Thomas in particular knowing damn well that Biden would move to pack the courts the second he thought he could get away with it with no blowback. So this was them pulling a power play against Roberts, who probably wanted to half-measure shit to further restrict abortion in a microscopic manner while keeping it legal.

3. In the issue of political capital and sacrifice, the whole point of Trump becoming President in the eyes of a LOT of conservatives was the Supreme court and finally getting a solid majority over the liberal justices. And given what was sacrificed, culturally and power-wise, caving to Roberts demand that they shut up and let Biden and the Democrats steal the Presidency via outright theft? The conservative justices led by Thomas and Alito probably felt that it was now or never to start fucking shit up to punish the Democrats and finally start giving the conservatives what they wanted given that was why conservatives voted in Trump. Quid Pro Quo with the base, as far as them delivering on the shit that they kept promising for decades now that they can do it. Especially in light of how Biden betrayed his base by refusing blanket student debt relief/amnesty and legalizing pot.

TL;DR the conservative wing has the majority and they decided that they finally should start making changes to the law that they always promised they would make, especially since Alito and Thomas are pissed the fuck off that Roberts backstabbed Trump.
Here’s the thing 1. I feel that if the Biden Administration wanted to pack the court, they’d try for it already because they have no issues brute forcing their dream desires despite nobody else wanting them if only to spite Republicans, especially after Trump got elected. 2. If the conservative advantage is an issue, Roberts and other liberal justices can very easily use this ruling as a smokescreen to retire and get Biden to announce another justice or two on the bench. 3. You guys know that Thomas is at the RBG phase of his tenure, right?
 
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: if, at any time in the last fifty years, the congress had codified abortion into law, rather than relying on a vulnerable judicial ruling, this entire situation would be moot. They could have adopted the same standards as Norway, or France; or those of the country I live in, granting abortion to those who need it within the first 24 weeks. Safe, legal, rare. It would have been relatively uncontroversial to enact this in the 90s or the early 00s.

Instead, the politicians weaponised the fragile foundation of this "right", to promote division and anger and shore up their vote bases. And now they're upset that they might have to actually do their jobs.

That's great but your religious is stupid
Cool it with the anti-Semitism, bro.
 
Lots of people are saying they are going after gay rights and gay marriage next.
If they make a ruling during pride month, I can see more "peaceful protests."
 
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This may have already been posted but lol these fucking idiots really don't want to try this.

I mean, I kinda want to see them try it, it would definitely solve some of the fertilizer and pig feed problems facing rural areas.

But they don't seem to grasp that life doesn't work like their capeshit movies. Captain Faggot and the Troonvengers aren't gonna swoop in to save their limp pasty selves.
Expectation:
>100 of your comrades loot and burn small town America
>Impotent cousin fuckers cry

Reality:
>100 of your comrades show up to Bumfuck Nowhere
>Many of you carpooled so you’re parked all up and down Main Street
>Dangerhairs with bull horns begin shouting shit about Roe V Wade
>Others begin looting the local business
>Shots ring out
>Bleeding comrades come running out of the stores
>Casualty rates hit 15%
>Comrades are now panicking
>Anyone who can get into a car does so
>Dangerhairs are clinging to the hoods of cars like Afghans clinging to airplanes
>Any driver who waits for their comrades to pile in is carjacked and run over
>All your vehicles are gone
>Of the 100 you started with only 59 remain
>Local authorities show up
>The county sheriff steps out of his car
>He just graduated high school
>The volunteer firefighter steps out of his truck
>It’s a red pickup with a livestock watering tank bolted in the back
>The local paramedic steps out of his ambulance
>It’s a painted cargo truck donated to the county by the local Sneed’s Seed and Feed
>Your remaining 59 comrades rush them reeing about nazis and shit
>One of your comrades falls
>He/she/it’s bleeding
>Hear a shot in the distance a second later
>Another comrade falls
>This time the shot is delayed by two seconds
>Look into the tree line
>See the reflection of dozens of rifle scopes
>Dozens if comrades fall
>BRRRRRRT
>Run for the hills
>Find a church
>They take you in
>It’s a doomsday cult
>US Marshals show up to arrest your leader
>We Far Cry 5 now
 
I am not american so I did not study american civics in school but I did live there for 5 years.

Let me get this straight, so the supreme court is NOT the legislative branch so they do not create or dispel laws. They are the judiciary branch and they interpret laws and make decisions and opinions on the legalality based on existing laws.
Congress is the legislative branch and congress primary job IS to write laws, that will later be interpreted by the legislative branch if there are disputes on their meaning.

As far as I understand it, the SupremeCourt did NOT ban abortion. That would be outside of their authority. They merely investigated and studied a previous opinion of the court and found it flawed and concluded : there is currently no federal law in the USA that makes abortion legal.
They did not change any law, they just made a statement that from a judicial view, no federal law exists today that makes abortion universally legal.

Would not the solution to this then be to ask congress to create such a law? The SCOTUS just pointed out that such a law does not exist. Maybe Congress should create such a law then, that is what congress do, create laws.

Joe Brandon himself said in 2019 he would create exactly this kind of law if he was elected. That was part of his platform.
He did not do shit to create such a law? That promise just disappeared down the ahlzeimer chimney?
 
As far as I understand it, the SupremeCourt did NOT ban abortion. That would be outside of their authority. They merely investigated and studied a previous opinion of the court and found it flawed and concluded : there is currently no federal law in the USA that makes abortion legal.
Also not a USian or constitutional scholar, but I've watched a few episodes of Perry Mason and the entirety of My Cousin Vinnie.

Roe vs Wade was initially brought by someone who wanted an abortion, who sued to claim that her state's ban on abortion was unconstitutional. The case eventually made its way up to the supreme court, where the state's ban was found to be unconstitutional under an interpretation of, I believe, the 14th amendment. The court decided that the constitution, by "emanations and penumbras", created a right to privacy in medical matters, between a woman and her doctor, that the state had no right to interfere with, meaning that the state consequently had no right to prevent the woman having an abortion, because it was a private medical matter between the woman and her doctor. It was a poorly reasoned and articulated decision that created numerous problems in its aftermath, even if the intention was arguably correct.

As you say, there was no federal law on the matter. The court does not enact laws, it only interprets cases brought before it in light of the limits created by the constitution. This may result in laws being struck down, but it never results in laws being created.

The court has subsequently decided that the original decision was a bad interpretation of the constitution. It doesn't even repudiate the idea of allowing abortion in its new decision, only the manner in which the decision was reached, which the court now considers to be a vast overreach of the court's own powers. They've dropped a gigantic ball in the legislature's court and basically said: you want this right at a federal level, you need to legislate it. Clarence Thomas singling out decisions regarding gay marriage and access to contraceptives is part of that, given he also seems to believe they were decided under less than ideal reasoning and are an overreach by the court.

What the court has now said is this: The decision was poor and should have been handled by the legislature. If, in the intervening years between Roe and today, the federal government had codified the decision into law in some manner, there would have been far greater grounds to preserve the right at the federal level, and which would have made challenging the prior decision that much harder.IMO, codifying it as a more general privacy matter, possibly using the 9th amendment (any rights not enumerated are still real) as justification, would probably have been the most successful. But like I said, I'm not a constitutional scholar.

Denny Crane! (I'm given to understand yelling this at the end of a sentence makes me right in all matters of law.)
 
They can simply not have sex. Woman aren't too special enough to keep their legs crossed and not fucking ride the cock carousal. And the rape and incest victims can (rightfully) blame the whores for costing their rights to abortion.
People are gonna fuck. It's in our biology. I know it upsets you religious fundies, but that's the reality
 
1) forcing lefties to breed more is fucking retarded

Lefties are made, not born. If you don't want more lefties, you need to start by taking over the schools. You could have mandatory abortion for every lefty in the country, and it wouldn't fix anything if they're still in charge of education.
 
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