Supreme Court Watch

[Dirty Larry]

some European countries have eliminated Down's Syndrome through abortions

eugenics isn't at all a conservative value though, it's always been instead a progressive and fascist one

wtf I love progressivism now

 

[starborn427614]

Here’s the thing though. We don’t really know what the moral worth of the fetus is. One of the reasons why I’m pro life is because I can live with being wrong. I would hate to be a pro abort and one day find out that I had been supporting a literal genocide.

I wouldn't really apply moral worth to something. That's an easy way to write someone off, be they a fetus or someone on the other side of the political spectrum.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

some European countries have eliminated Down's Syndrome through abortions

eugenics isn't at all a conservative value though, it's always been instead a progressive and fascist one

Wait until the gays and troons realize that their line ends the day a pre-birth test is developed to predict those disorders in the womb so parents can decide whther to bring that child to term or not. Even worse if gene therapy exists to tailor these traits before birth. The LGBTQWTF shift to pro-life will happen overnight.

 

[thegooddoctor]

I may be very religious and a borderline fundamentalist politically (in an ideal world, I know it’s not happening so in practice I’m a centrist). Anyway the only thing that I get from my religion in this situation is respect for human life. Science has shown that the fetus is a human life and therefore it should be protected. It’s innocent.

What about rape and pedo cases though? Shouldn’t laws be made so those that get molested, poor teens and children have the right to abort the unwanted baby? I’m surprised nobody has brought this element up. Would you really encourage friggin pre teen girls to go through the horrors of childbirth so early?? Isn’t that complete lunacy?

 

[Mysterious Autist XX]

Get it right, okay

ftfy

 

[Mayor Adam West]

You're being a bit of a fag, but if you want to get into the head of a pro-life person, just imagine that everytime someone talks about a fetus, they are actually talking about a 2 year old child, because there is absolutely no distinction in our minds:

• Should it be ok to chemically poison a 2 year old until they are dead because Mom doesn't want to look after him?
• Should it be ok to surgically dismember a 2 year old child and then sell his parts to research companies because mom wants to get railed by strangers on tinder instead of looking after him?
• What if the 2 year old has Down syndrome? Can we kill him then?
• Is it okay for mom to kill her toddler because she's encountered """financial hardship?"""? Is it better for the kid to be dead than continue to live a difficult life?
• Is it okay for mom to abandon her 2 year old child because she "doesn't want to carry him" wherever she's going and because it's "her body her choice"?
• Let's say it's a one year old and there's no formula available. Is it OK for mom to not breastfeed the child and let him starve to death because it's "her body, her choice"? How do you think the courts (and society) would look upon that?

If you can understand that, you should be able to understand why we think you people are all fucking ghouls who need to have your murder-spree stopped at all costs. If it were up to me, every woman who tries to get an abortion should be forced to watch a recorded version of one with a baby of the same gestational age--the only reason people support this shit is because they aren't forced to confront how horrific it truly is. We'll see how much support remains after everyone sees a video of a doctor cutting the head off a squirming infant with a pair of surgical scissors and then discards the corpse as if its just medical waste...

This stuff needs to be shown in schools so young people know the truth

 

[Akira Fudo]

racist progressives.

The Progressives we're very racist when the movement started so that's a little redundant

 

[FatDragonDaddy]

Ill just lay it out, are the majority of people here are pro abortion? Anti abortion? I honestly don’t know, If you are anti abortion, is it for religious reasons? Do you have fundamentalist religious reasons for why people shouldn’t abort a life no matter what or is it based on just sheer moral convictions that lives shouldn’t be stopped no matter what? Not trying to judge or be a dick, just wanna know why you think in the way you do since the vast majority of normie women are enraged (rightfully so) right now.

This isn't Reddit or Twatter, my dude.

Folks here think everyone is fucking stupid.

I'll lay out it in the most offensive way possible.

Only feral niggers, troons, cracker stank dumpster fires, religious pedos, and incestous fuck buddies are screaming their pie holes off.

Sane women are saying so long as it doesn't endanger a woman's life, they're fine. Bonus if they can get a month window after conception to still abort.

Of course, already troons are making the issue about them. They're worried 'ol Clarence is going to take away gay marriage now.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

Well, Semper fi to all women and girls in the Bible belt. Remember folks, if you're stuck getting rid of an unwanted pregnancy the old-fashioned way, as long as you don't use any force intentional smothering is indistinguishable from SIDS on autopsy of an infant.

The best part of this comment is how the mask comes off to show that it really doesn't matter that a baby ends up murdered if it inconveniences the mother.

So the honesty is appreciated, I guess.

 

[Mayor Adam West]

What about rape and pedo cases though? Shouldn’t laws be made so those that get molested, poor teens and children have the right to abort the unwanted baby?

No. While I understand the sentiment that baby still has the same rights as any other. We are dealing with human beings here. I just don’t see how abortion could be justified in any situation other than as an absolute medical necessity and even then I’m uneasy about it.

I’m surprised nobody has brought this element up. Would you really encourage friggin pre teen girls to go through the horrors of childbirth so early?? Isn’t that complete lunacy?

When the alternative is killing an innocent child, what choice do I have? I get it. I really do. But killing innocent people is wrong and I’m not willing to throw innocent people under the bus when the stakes are so high.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

You're being a bit of a fag, but if you want to get into the head of a pro-life person, just imagine that everytime someone talks about a fetus, they are actually talking about a 2 year old child, because there is absolutely no distinction in our minds:

• Should it be ok to chemically poison a 2 year old until they are dead because Mom doesn't want to look after him?
• Should it be ok to surgically dismember a 2 year old child and then sell his parts to research companies because mom wants to get railed by strangers on tinder instead of looking after him?
• What if the 2 year old has Down syndrome? Can we kill him then?
• Is it okay for mom to kill her toddler because she's encountered """financial hardship?"""? Is it better for the kid to be dead than continue to live a difficult life?
• Is it okay for mom to abandon her 2 year old child because she "doesn't want to carry him" wherever she's going and because it's "her body her choice"?
• Let's say it's a one year old and there's no formula available. Is it OK for mom to not breastfeed the child and let him starve to death because it's "her body, her choice"? How do you think the courts (and society) would look upon that?

If you can understand that, you should be able to understand why we think you people are all fucking ghouls who need to have your murder-spree stopped at all costs. If it were up to me, every woman who tries to get an abortion should be forced to watch a recorded version of one with a baby of the same gestational age--the only reason people support this shit is because they aren't forced to confront how horrific it truly is. We'll see how much support remains after everyone sees a video of a doctor cutting the head off a squirming infant with a pair of surgical scissors and then discards the corpse as if its just medical waste...

I understand your analogy but a fetus does not have the same self awareness as a two year old. I guess it depends exactly what point on the pregnancy we are talking about. I know I have become increasingly averse to abortion with ethics and tiktok girls bragging about abortions, carrying on in the most disgusting manner imaginable. There are some instances where abortions should be encouraged black underteo, drug addicts, geneticslly defective etc)

 

[starborn427614]

What about rape and pedo cases though? Shouldn’t laws be made so those that get molested, poor teens and children have the right to abort the unwanted baby? I’m surprised nobody has brought this element up. Would you really encourage friggin pre teen girls to go through the horrors of childbirth so early?? Isn’t that complete lunacy?

There really should be an exception for exceptional circumstances at the very least.

 

[Mayor Adam West]

This isn't Reddit or Twatter, my dude.

Folks here think everyone is fucking stupid.

I'll lay out it in the most offensive way possible.

Only feral niggers, troons, cracker stank dumpster fires, religious pedos, and incestous fuck buddies are screaming their pie holes off.

Sane women are saying so long as it doesn't endanger a woman's life, they're fine. Bonus if they can get a month window after conception to still abort.

Of course, already troons are making the issue about them. They're worried 'ol Clarence is going to take away gay marriage now.

I completely agree with the first two paragraphs. Fuck you for the rest though.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

What about rape and pedo cases though? Shouldn’t laws be made so those that get molested, poor teens and children have the right to abort the unwanted baby? I’m surprised nobody has brought this element up. Would you really encourage friggin pre teen girls to go through the horrors of childbirth so early?? Isn’t that complete lunacy?

There are more trannies in the world than people who would force a rape/incest victim to have those children. That's a hyperbolic strawman. I'll bet anything that such exceptions will soon be added to the states with trigger laws that went into effect yesterday that didn't include them. The only reason any lack those exceptions is because when those trigger laws were passed nobody really expected Roe to be overturned so they were just for show.

 

[Mayor Adam West]

I understand your analogy but a fetus does not have the same self awareness as a two year old.

Ok well what about a newborn?

There are more trannies in the world than people who would force a rape/incest victim to have those children.

OMG I’M SPECIAL YAYYYYYYY

 

[p4ddys]

Not sure if it's been posted here but CNN allows everybody to share their story about how this decision is affecting them.

https://ix.cnn.io/dailygraphics/graphics/20220524-women-current-events/index.html

 

[jenstark101]

my state keeps swinging from Democrat to Republican. So now I can discuss with my partner how it's not responsible to have sex without an intention to have a child, after a bong hit.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

Well, the problem is we can't have an honest discussion about it. And if I believe abortion is a women's right to control her body putting that on an open ballot is the equivalent of putting "Should we let slavery be legal or not in our state".

For the pro-lifers the question is literally "Should we let murder of the baby variety be legal in our state"

It would be nice to live in a society where we could have that discussion. An even better one if we could talk openly to agree on what abortion even is. But we don't. Because the people are retarded.

The long and short of it is that there is no way to bridge that divide, because the moral systems you interact with that lead you to believe it is murder are not systems I interact with at all... for the first trimester. Even when I'm fine with the practice being restricted, it's more because I value personal responsibility and prudent behavior (you should have made up your mind / taken care of it asap) than because I view the fetus as a human to be protected. When the fetus has a primitive nervous system and can feel pain, I start to come closest to the system that life-at-conception types tap into, but even then it's more because I have a utilitarian impulse to not cause undue harm and less because I value the sanctity of the fetus.

There's no real rhetorical or even emotional appeal that broaches the divide when we're tapping in to two completely different systems of values. They're hewn from similar principles, in that they're loose amalgamations of concern about autonomy, society, sanctity, etc, but how much each different pillar is valued is wholly different. 20% of the country roundabouts is for abortion-under-no-circumstances, 26% of the country is for abortion-under-all-circumstances, and there's quite literally no way to make both of those groups happy or to compromise between them.

So you put it up to a vote - select among first, second, third trimester for allowable or for 'under no circumstances,' and whatever pools the most wins, which is prettymuch always guaranteed to be first-allowable just based on the fact that only about 100-20=80>20, naturally with some shifts between states (Alabama in a direct ballot, for example, could probably ban it outright). And that vote is kindof the best you can do. But the direct ballot idea is more of a pipe dream, because of the state congress issue I brought up.

 

[Matt Damon]

They're worried 'ol Clarence is going to take away gay marriage now.

God, you'd be able to hear the shrieking from a commercial jet at cruising altitude.

After the last ten years, my guiding political philosophy has become centered around whatever will make leftists the most apoplectic.

 

[Netizennameless]

Yeah, I imagine it'd be difficult to get past HIPA protections to prosecute it if people kept their head down and didn't broadcast what they were doing there, but you'd still have to be dumb as fuck to put yourself in that position. If you want an abortion in a red state just go to a blue state for "tourism" and then decide to get an abortion while you're there, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

This is why state's rights are important. California and other states have the opportunity to protect abortion in their state laws if they haven't already. Other states have the right to say "don't do that shit here."