Supreme Court Watch

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Sure it is. If everyone was forced to donate 1 kidney at the age of 18, there would be no waiting lists for recipients, no more dialysis.

But did those people explicitly cause the affliction of the people on dialysis?
And are those same people explicitly taking action to make sure an individual is directly dying through their actions?

A doctor shoving forceps through a developing infant's head is more akin to someone walking up behind someone else and blasting their brains out with a 9mm (except arguably more justifiable since an adult human is a bigger threat than a neonate); not some indirect chain of events and causes associated with kidney donations.

I get that you don’t like the point I’ve made but don’t invalidate it just because.

Nah, you made a dumb point where you tried to conflate intentional action directly leading to the death of an individual with some vague hypothetical population level "well if only everyone yada yada yada"

I don't get why faggots care so much about abortions and black people procreating.
It's not like they're going to have children anyhow.

Its funnier their strawmans "oh ur right wing so u must hate blak people!".
Like fuck, I don't care about more black kids? What's wrong with more black kids?

 

[The Last Stand]

I'm against abortion. But a lot of women would argue that they don't have access to Plan B or can't afford it, and effectiveness decreases the more the woman weighs. (More than 165+ lbs)

And watch a doctor or hospital define a life threatening situation as "not harmful to the woman."

 

[Cavalier Cipolla]

This decision has handed power back to state constituents though.
The previous federal protection of abortion was more akin to the EU courts deciding that abortion is either made legal or illegal in the entirety of the EU with no regard for the will among the constituents of each member state

US states aren't EU states tho. EU states are different countries with different languages, cultures, political parties etc.
What you assume the EU is would be European Federation. US states are not sovereign countries. EU member states ARE!

 

[Netizennameless]

I'm extremely disappointed in America. Why can't you retards destroy your cities to protect the right of whores to kill babies?
Fucking gay

because we have 330 million people in the US and 450 million guns in the US. Plus it would make the democrats look like they can't govern.

 

[Matt Damon]

US states aren't EU states tho. EU states are different countries with different languages, cultures, political parties etc.
What you assume the EU is would be European Federation. US states are not sovereign countries. EU member states ARE!

Why not learn the basics of American civics before you speak? You'd learn so much and then we wouldn't have to painstakingly explain it all to you.

 

[Fentanyl Floyd]

I believe I said this before but I'm gonna say it again:

BLACK BIRTHRATES TO THE MOON

1. The negro birth rate is below replacement level
2. Roughly half abortions are already performed illegally, and niggers will definitely take that route

 

[H3llonwheels]

If this Roe V Wade overturn thing helps punch holes in transgenderism, transhumanism, and any other form of human experimentation on living beings, I am overjoyed.

This is exactly the end result of removing that shitty ruling. Not directly though. You have to consider it a side effect of forcing responsibility on people at a younger age. Know the meme about the 35 year-old slut that finally wants to settle down and nobody wants her? It also fixes that in time.

If your younger adult years are filled with building a career, raising a family, and praying for retirement, you shouldn't have enough time to become a troon. I am not saying that getting married at 17 and popping out your first kid 9 months later is the correct option either.

What I do KNOW is that were we are currently is completely fucked up and this is a large part of it.

 

[The Last Stand]

These rules won't last, regardless about how people feel about trans here, that is at elast a relative minority, wer'e talking about the rights of women in the hundreds of millions. This will not last and there will be a huge pushback and rioting no doubt you can’t stamp the rights of friggin 164 million women and think it won’t ruin and lead to some sort of societal collapse or some riot against the government. Pro life my ass, you may have a lunatic ‘no abortion ever’ attitude, but don’t be shocked when actual rape victims as young as 12 dont exactly want to go through the agonies of childbirth. I can’t believe you don’t even believe in those exceptions.

Sad to say, I don't think the pro-choice crowd CARES about young rape victims. Hell, there's an overlap of them that allow DRAG QUEENS to outright perform in front of children.

 

[DumbDude42]

I've experienced pregnancy, one that wasn't well timed or planned, so I don't take it lightly. However, I see transhumanism as much greater threat to humanity at large than unplanned pregnancies. Besides, I'm sure there will be "technological advances" which make abortion a thing of the past in a few years. Women who shriek about Roe being overturned don't realize that transhumanism, which is funding leftist politics, wants to eradicate women from the earth, as they see us as "useless eaters", they see us as "environmental hazards", and despise the fact we can breed without technological intervention. Transhumanism wants to control reproduction, and women are the barriers to that goal for them.

this sounds pretty schizophrenic and insane at first
but then you see them put out stuff ike this

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/women-arent-the-only-people-who-get-abortions.122760/

in particular, this shit:

Inclusive terms for pregnancy or abortion
Pregnant people: When in doubt, you can't go wrong with simply using the word "people" wherever you would previously use "women." The term "people" is about as inclusive as you can get -- it includes everybody. Other options include "individual," "patient" or "parent."

Using the term "people" also forces you to be more specific, rather than making gendered generalizations. For example, you might say "people who can get pregnant" or "people who menstruate," instead of just "women." This has the bonus benefit of being more mindful of women who don't have uteruses, don't menstruate or can't get pregnant for whatever reason.

Human right: When it comes to abortion bans, the phrase "a woman's right to choose" often pops up. A more inclusive alternative is to refer to abortion care as a human right instead.

Birthing parent or gestational parent: This term can replace "mother" to refer to an individual who carries and gives birth to a baby. It's also useful for same-sex couples in which both parents are mothers, but only one physically carries the child.

Chestfeeding: Some trans and non-binary parents choose to feed their babies with their own milk. You can swap out "chest" for "breast," and "chestfeeding" for "breastfeeding." Refer to the milk as "chest milk" or "human milk."

this insistence on trying to destroy the inherent connection between women and procreation really seems suspicious, there's probably more behind this than just a few whiny trannies bitching about inclusion.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

Roughly half abortions are already performed illegally, and niggers will definitely take that route

That is fair point saint Floyd of Fentanyl, if you expect the black population to explode due to abortion being outlawed then you're acting under the presumption that blacks follow the law. Please share more of you drug fueled wisdom.

 

[The Last Stand]

HAHAH BLACK MAN GO VROOM

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

this insistence on trying to destroy the inherent connection between women and procreation really seems suspicious, there's probably more behind this than just a few whiny trannies bitching about inclusion.

>Marxists
>Other cultists that treat different forms of communism as their religion
>Whatever the fuck the Weimar troons were called

 

[Übertroon]

US states aren't EU states tho. EU states are different countries with different languages, cultures, political parties etc.
What you assume the EU is would be European Federation. US states are not sovereign countries. EU member states ARE!

You show a fundamental lack of understanding for contemporary civics. The US as a federal nation was meant to have far less impact on individual member states. The recent decision on Roe v. Wade is a uncharacteristic change in the normally federalization of the US where states have over time lost power to the federal government.
The EU is experiencing the same thing. It was meant to be a economic union, but has been given its own courts, its own parliament, and now have political parties voted for across the EU. Member states in the EU have been penalized for not following decisions made by the EU parliament and EU courts. The EU is experiencing a federalization of power.
Interestingly, with Ukraine and Moldova possibly joining the union, and brexit, it's looking like the social conservatives might become the largest political block, and you might end up with the EU enforcing anti abortion and anti homosexuality laws across the EU within this decade.

 

[thegooddoctor]

I imagine states themselves will allow abortion in cases of rape and incest if they ban it for other reasons. It would be too much bad press for them at election time if someone parades their rape-victim 12 year old daughter out in public to sway the public during election time.

Well that’s a damn relief.

 

[Netizennameless]

It's the woman's choice because it affects her body? But it affects the man's life massively too. If it's just a clump of cells why doesn't he get the chance to demand an abortion because it affects him? You're surely not suggesting the impact on the man isn't life changing. Imagine being signed up for a twenty year mortgage on a house you can't even live in, because you crashed there one night.

If the fetus isn't a human being, has no right to life, then why should the man's choice matter less than the woman's when it affects him just as much?

Now, if you believe the fetus has a right to life as pro-life people do, then the guy doesn't get a say. Just the same as the woman doesn't get a say - because it's the fetus that matters. But if you believe it is "just a clump of cells" then the guy has as much say as the woman. And surely feminists who argue a position based on that should be consistent and say the man can demand an abortion for the same reasons as the woman. Because of the consequences on him if the procedure isn't carried out.

It would be peak clown world if feminists arguing "clump of cells" leads to men being granted the right to force their wives and mistresses to have abortions.

 

[H3llonwheels]

Well that’s a damn relief.

Almost all of them already have laws on the books for this. People conveniently leave it out because it doesn't fit the narrative.

 

[Philier]

1. The negro birth rate is below replacement level
2. Roughly half abortions are already performed illegally, and niggers will definitely take that route

"But that means more people of color will die to back alley abortions!"




Ok

 

[Matt Damon]

It would be peak clown world if feminists arguing "clump of cells" leads to men being granted the right to force their wives and mistresses to have abortions.

They have no interest in intellectual consistency. Whatever argument gets them the most gibs and least responsibility at any particular moment will be made and instantly jettisoned when no longer useful.

 

[Queen Elizabeth II]

I really dont care about what this means for Americans, but I am curious about Clarence's statement.

Yes. Okay, there is ground now to abolish same sex rights, same sex marriage and contraception. However....Isn't the right to marry interacially founded upon the same series of opinions as the above?

Though I suppose Christians have moved on from screaming about the curse of cain and are more awed by how devout some migrant communities are so that's fine now.

I'm not professing to be a legal expert by any means, so correct me if I'm wrong. It just seems a very strange direction for him to take personally his own background considered.

Anyone who didn't think Barrett and freinds were not going to gun straight for this was dumb.

Still, I'd be surprised if it has that much impact. Abortion providers now have the right to set premium prices in states which allow it.

 

[Stan]

The fetus is impacted. And since we were all a fetus at some point some people have decided to have a little empathy with it

What about the impacts on the fetus of getting born when it’s unwanted? If the mom, not wanting her fetus, drinks a ton of alcohol hoping that will cause miscarriage but it just causes major FAS? Where it’s born into a fucked up life, gets traumatized in CPS and joins a gang when he turns 18? I can think of more common situations where it would be advantageous to the fetus to get aborted rather than have a mother who didn’t want to have him.

it impacts the child itself, who has its life taken away
it impacts the father, who has his child taken away
it impacts the grandparents, who have their grandchild taken away

These kin aren’t stepping up for the kids who are already out there. Also the idea of having a baby cause your MIL wants you to have one is fucked, cause even if they adopt and do 100% of the care for the baby, they can’t carry it for the person in question. It’s a major imposition.

The idea of having enshrined in law that killing your unborn is a right should be enough for people to question system they live under.

Add to that the fact that male infant genital mutilation was sold to the people as beneficial.

The only reason you think these two issues are related us because you’re an MGTOW or something

This decision has handed power back to state constituents though.
The previous federal protection of abortion was more akin to the EU courts deciding that abortion is either made legal or illegal in the entirety of the EU with no regard for the will among the constituents of each member state

It’s not getting handed back to constituents, like on a ballot referendum, it’s going back to the statehouses; many of which are packed with even more crazy evangelist republicans. Overturning Roe v. Wade is a checkmate in an Inter party chess match that’s been going on since the 80’s. It’s going to take a while to vote them out and Democrats are shit at the long march; they get energized about some issue for a season or so and then go back to their own hobbyhorse issue.