Science GOP lawmaker says she trusts Utah women to control their ‘intake of semen’ as abortion trigger law goes into effect (see video) - Karianne Lisonbee does kegels

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(Rick Egan | The Salt Lake Tribune) Senate President Stuart Adams, answers questions about Utah's trigger law, SB174, that will prohibit elective abortion in Utah, during a news conference at the State Capitol, after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, on Friday, June 24, 2022. By Bryan Schott
Republican lawmakers and Utah politicos celebrated the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade on Friday, with one legislator saying she trusted Utah women “to control [their] intake of semen.”

Rep. Karianne Lisonbee described a text message she said she received urging her to hold men accountable for unwanted pregnancies.

“I got a text message today saying I should seek to control men’s ejaculations and not women’s pregnancies ... I do trust women enough to control when they allow a man to ejaculate inside of them and to control that intake of semen,” the Clearfield Republican told reporters at a news conference at the Utah Capitol on Friday.

Lisonbee also said she wanted to reassure Utahns that lawmakers want them to have justice after sexual assaults.

Rep. Angela Romero, who has championed legislation to support survivors of sexual assault in the Beehive State, said she doesn’t think her colleague meant to be “harmful” with her Friday remarks, but a survivor may read it and think their elected officials don’t believe them when they say they have been raped or sexually assaulted.

“We have to be sensitive to how we phrase things because what we say impacts not just the people we represent, it impacts the entire state of Utah,” Romero, D-Salt Lake City, said.

There are people who are put in compromising situations where they couldn’t give consent, the representative said. So, it’s important to not paint abortion and people who access abortion with a broad brush, she said, and to make sure they get the resources and help they need.

“Sexual assault in Utah is common, though often goes unreported,” Sonya Martinez-Ortiz, executive director of Utah’s Rape Recovery Center, told the The Salt Lake Tribune.

A 2016 study conducted by Utah State University found that one in six Utah women have reported having been raped, higher than the national average.

“We believe consent and bodily autonomy are fundamental rights and vital to support and empower survivors of sexual assault,” Martinez-Ortiz said. “We will continue to advocate and educate for laws that do not cause continuous harm to survivors.”

Lisonbee was one of several Republican lawmakers who expressed their support for the conservative court’s Friday ruling.

“I believe as an American we need to protect the life of not only the unborn, we need to be respectful of all life, and hopefully that’s what the Supreme Court has done today,” said Utah Senate President Stuart Adams, R-Layton.

Adams and other lawmakers were flanked by a phalanx of faces familiar in the Utah pro-life community. The brigade of activists and politicians included Eagle Forum President Gayle Ruzicka and 3rd Congressional District candidate Chris Herrod.

They praised the Supreme Court ruling, saying it was never proper to take this decision away from individual states.

“Fifty years ago, the Supreme Court created the ability for abortions to be conducted in the state of Utah, despite the fact it was against the law. Today, the Supreme Court restored that power to the state,” Sen. Dan McCay, R-Riverton told reporters.

In 2020, McCay shepherded a so-called “trigger law” through the Legislature. It outlawed most abortions in the state, with a few exceptions, but it would only take effect if the Supreme Court were to ever reverse the decision on Roe v. Wade. At the time, McCay’s bill was seen as merely a political stunt, and even he thought there was a very slim chance it would ever come to fruition.

“When this passed, many asked if this was just a message bill,” McCay said. “We didn’t foresee this. We wanted to restate where Utah was on the abortion issue as it was being questioned throughout the United States.”

The Utah law, SB174, went into effect Friday evening after the Legislature’s general counsel found the ruling met the trigger law’s legal requirements for the state to prohibit abortion.

Friday’s decision is a seismic shift in public policy and raises more than a few questions about how the law will be implemented now that a medical procedure that was widely available in the state for half a century became illegal in a day’s time.
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(Rick Egan | The Salt Lake Tribune) Rep. Karianne Lisonbee, answers questions about Utah's trigger law, SB174, during a news conference at the State Capitol, after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, on Friday, June 24, 2022.
Lisonbee said she does not foresee lawmakers taking additional steps to prevent women from traveling to other states where abortion is still legal, as Utah’s law punishes abortion providers, not pregnant women.

“I don’t think there’s any contemplation that we would try to control a woman’s ability to travel or to obtain an abortion elsewhere,” Lisonbee said. “Certainly, if someone wants to do that, it’s a free country and we wouldn’t be the type of authoritarian government that would prevent that.”

With the option of ending a pregnancy mostly off the table in Utah, Lisonbee also said the state should be doing more to strengthen the social safety net in the state.

“I think we’ve done a lot in Utah to go down that road,” she said. “I think we do have to put some responsibility on people to make wise choices for themselves.”

Several Democrats in the Legislature were already making noise that they planned to introduce legislation in the 2023 session to loosen some of the restrictions that are now in effect. The Senate president, however, quickly threw water on that idea.

“We have a bill that the Legislature supported and we put in place. It will be the law,” Adams said. “My feeling is we ought to give this bill a chance to be law and actually find the pros and cons and how it works before we start cleaning it.”

As one might imagine with a politically charged subject like reproductive rights, there’s been some backlash directed at Republican members of the Legislature — including direct threats.
McCay, who shared a voicemail he received with The Salt Lake Tribune, has reported a caller that threatened his safety to law enforcement.

“Just to let you know if abortions aren’t safe, neither are you,” the caller says in the message.

On Friday, Justice Clarence Thomas argued the Supreme Court should revisit other rulings on hot-button social issues, including legalizing same-sex marriage. Utah’s constitutional ban on same-sex unions still exists and could be reinstated if the Supreme Court were to overturn its earlier decision. Adams said he thinks that would be proper based on today’s ruling.

“I believe strongly that states ought to have the right to pass legislation and that the states ought to be where these issues are determined,” Adams said, adding that he doesn’t see Utah pressing the Supreme Court to reconsider.

But would he support Utah joining with other states in hopes that the court would take another look at same-sex marriage?

“Yes,” Adams said without hesitation.
 
So going into this i thought that most states in the US would have sane abortion laws.

Against abortion, but with a few caveats like a normal country. BOY WAS I WRONG.
The states of Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma, Ohio, South Dakota, Tennessee, and Texas have laws with no exception for rape or incest.

I know you were raped by your dad from the age of 2 and you are now pregnant at 11. HOWEVER, YOU BETTER KEEP THAT FUCKING KID WE ARE THE FUCKING STATE OF MISSOURI!!!!

I am a conservative and i would rather you ruin your life even more CHILD than letting a single rape incest baby die!!!.

Man if i was a woman in one of these states or had a daughter there i would be shiting my pants.
 
There is no way she wasn't raped as a child. I'm sorry, but any women that focuses that much on child rape had some shit happen to her when she was a kid. Seeing as she brings up the Duggars and other crazy sex pest fundies as examples of the type of people that would do that sort of thing, my guess is that a pastor or a highly religious familyember molested her for years and that's why she's so braindamaged now.

Also, double posting
Well, yeah. Everyone knows she's damaged goods because she can't shut up about it. I think she's even explicitly mentioned being diddled. Several times. Bitch needs some fucking therapy.
 
So going into this i thought that most states in the US would have sane abortion laws.

Against abortion, but with a few caveats like a normal country. BOY WAS I WRONG.
The states of Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma, Ohio, South Dakota, Tennessee, and Texas have laws with no exception for rape or incest.
Not sure if you actually believe this or are just trolling. Assuming you are not trolling:

That is absolutely not the case.
Just because some dangerhair on twitter said so does not make it true.
 
There is no way she wasn't raped as a child. I'm sorry, but any women that focuses that much on child rape had some shit happen to her when she was a kid.
There's a twitter cluster of pro-cuckraine Russian radfem fandom artists which is even crazier, fedposting with no filter whatsoever, openly planning to murder Russian soldiers and Putin himself; if any of them had been molested as a kid they'd have said it. One was so dedicated to the larp ("muh mental health") she had herself committed for depression and got locked up with the real deal (raging tards, senile elderly women, dimwits, cripples abandoned as babies, etc). They ragequit twitter when it became clear Russia wasn't collapsing but most of them crawled back eventually.

Against abortion, but with a few caveats like a normal country. BOY WAS I WRONG.
The states of Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma, Ohio, South Dakota, Tennessee, and Texas have laws with no exception for rape or incest

Not sure if you actually believe this or are just trolling. Assuming you are not trolling:

That is absolutely not the case.

StateWhatExceptions
Alabamabanlife of mother
Arkansasbanlife of mother
Florida15 weeks limitlife of mother or nonviable fetus
Kentuckybanlife of mother
Louisianaban (blocked for now)life of mother or nonviable fetus
Missouribanlife of mother
Oklahomaban + 6 weeks limitban: life of mother, rape, incest; 6 weeks: life of mother only
Ohio6 weeks limitlife of mother
South Dakotabanlife of mother
Tennesseeupcoming banlife of mother
Texasupcoming banlife of mother
 
There's a twitter cluster of pro-cuckraine Russian radfem fandom artists which is even crazier, fedposting with no filter whatsoever, openly planning to murder Russian soldiers and Putin himself; if any of them had been molested as a kid they'd have said it. One was so dedicated to the larp ("muh mental health") she had herself committed for depression and got locked up with the real deal (raging tards, senile elderly women, dimwits, cripples abandoned as babies, etc). They ragequit twitter when it became clear Russia wasn't collapsing but most of them crawled back eventually.





StateWhatExceptions
Alabamabanlife of mother
Arkansasbanlife of mother
Florida15 weeks limitlife of mother or nonviable fetus
Kentuckybanlife of mother
Louisianaban (blocked for now)life of mother or nonviable fetus
Missouribanlife of mother
Oklahomaban + 6 weeks limitban: life of mother, rape, incest; 6 weeks: life of mother only
Ohio6 weeks limitlife of mother
South Dakotabanlife of mother
Tennesseeupcoming banlife of mother
Texasupcoming banlife of mother
So, randomtwitterguys claim was wrong then?
And what is wrong with Floridas 15 week ban? That is longer than most countries in Europe.
15 weeks is a funny way to say "banned with no exceptions not even for rape".

It would really help if people actually tried to do some research first before they overreact and just throw around made up shit.
Is Alabama's ban too short? Yeah probably but that is for the people in Alabama to sort out. They created a trigger law for showmanship and never thought it would actiually trigger. Retarded? Yes!. Still, they have had 50 years of promising to actually create federal law for allowing abortion but no one did shit, so here we are.
 
If they really wanted to fix abortion, they could do something similar to the rest of the western world and make it elective up to 12/13 weeks and then past that they have exceptions for a whole bunch of things like late detection of defects or viability.
I think almost all people even in deep red states could live with something like that. Even many catholic countries in europe are ok with that.
So that should not be very hard to legislate. But will the left do that? No, they will push and push until they push too far and thus when they push for "lets become the only country in the whole world where abortion in the 9th month is ok" it is too far. And thus any proposed legislation would be unacceptable to 99% of the population.
They have had 50 years. How hard could it be?

But again, pushing too hard and pushing so far that they lose support is what the left always does.
Instead of taking a "12/13 week like the whole rest of the world" which would be an easy thing to get. That is not enough for them and they will try to go for a full third-trimester abortion bill and instead of getting something that almost everyone agrees on they will get nothing.
It is a pattern that repeats over and over. Over-reach and get nothing instead of take what you can get now and then work to increase it later.
 
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Control your semen intake, women. Is a hilarious thing to say, especially coming from a woman.

The funniest jokes are ones that have an element of truth and this one is 100% funny and 100% useful advice.

Why wouldn't you want to control your semen intake, you fucking whores?
 
rape abortions are less than 1% of abortions. so in more than 99% of cases, women chose to let someone rawdog them.
Bingo. This really pinpoints their hypocrisy. Abortions are usually conducted by whores.

Regardless, even in the case of rape, you cannot reasonably blame the baby. Unless he's black.
 
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Just had to make that correction.

Women have far larger appetites for dick than any mans cravings for pussy.

Its just that women can get it far easier than men can.
:story: Holy Shit Dude... Hey, tell us you never get laid without telling us you never get laid.
 
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:story: Holy Shit Dude... Hey, tell us you never get laid without telling us you never get laid.
Lol, nah. The longer this goes on the more it becomes obvious that the old "men are horny pigs who only think about sex all day" was a massive projection cope on the part of the ladies. Just control your semen input sluts, pull out method has worked fine for centuries
 
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Men are horny all the time. Women are not horny 90%, but that 10% they turn into literal semen demons.

Either you're a virgin or a bad lay.
Meh I think it splits into two groups. The men who are "eternally horny" and the guys with self control and focus who are less horny or keep it maintained on average. With women it's more complicated and comes with all kinds of mitigating circumstances, but some women are also in the "eternally horny" category.

I remember my first relationship when I was younger I was going to meet up a long distance girl and in the last three weeks, she began constantly begging for cyber sex/face camming, at first I refused because I never liked the idea of exposing myself on camera, but she began to get so relentless that near the last week I compromised and went through just to get her to stop spamming me dozens of messages begging to get off with me hour on the hour. Pretty great lady, but her horny mode was something off the charts and that's without mentioning the actual meet up. ;)

Women are better at concealing their horniness but some of them are just as if not more horny than some of the most thirsty men.
 
You're all partly right and partly wrong. 80% of men are very horny most of the time.

Women aren't horny, until they meet a top 10%er man, then they're very horny.

This is what a thirsty woman looks like: https://sneed-i.huffpost.com/gen/1313060/images/o-ALEXANDER-SKARSGARD-AWE-facebook.jpg
 
So, randomtwitterguys claim was wrong then?
And what is wrong with Floridas 15 week ban? That is longer than most countries in Europe.
15 weeks is a funny way to say "banned with no exceptions not even for rape".

It would really help if people actually tried to do some research first before they overreact and just throw around made up shit.
Is Alabama's ban too short? Yeah probably but that is for the people in Alabama to sort out. They created a trigger law for showmanship and never thought it would actiually trigger. Retarded? Yes!. Still, they have had 50 years of promising to actually create federal law for allowing abortion but no one did shit, so here we are.

Not only in a few cases were slightly wrong, HOWEVER!. Missouri is now and will always be known as the incest rape state.

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So going into this i thought that most states in the US would have sane abortion laws.

Against abortion, but with a few caveats like a normal country. BOY WAS I WRONG.
The states of Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma, Ohio, South Dakota, Tennessee, and Texas have laws with no exception for rape or incest.

I know you were raped by your dad from the age of 2 and you are now pregnant at 11. HOWEVER, YOU BETTER KEEP THAT FUCKING KID WE ARE THE FUCKING STATE OF MISSOURI!!!!

I am a conservative and i would rather you ruin your life even more CHILD than letting a single rape incest baby die!!!.

Man if i was a woman in one of these states or had a daughter there i would be shiting my pants.
Look up the statistics and the % of those incest rape pregnancy scenarios. Even normal rape pregnancies can be prevented because every hospital offers women Plan B to avoid getting pregnant.
 
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