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Corporations probably see abortion as cheaper compared to insurance for the babby for x amount of years lol
paying for an employees abortion is a one time payment that is relatively low and also gives PR points with the establishment

paying for that employees maternity leave is a much larger financial burden on the employer that also stretches over a long period of time, and when the employee returns to work she'll sometimes go part time

it's really not difficult to see which option is in the corporations interest
 
Are you prepared for war? These people are well trained in arts and all manner forms of combat.

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I like how all you have to do is take one LOOK at these people, they look like demons from the pit of hell, one look and you instantly know every single opinion on everything political with this fag.

I remember how hipster/bohemian men and women looked in the 2000s, they looked cool or cute, these people are actively repellent to look at.

Where did it all go so wrong? Sometimes I feel like I've gotten more conservative with age, but sometimes I feel like I'm the same as I was in 2007 more or less, it's just the left that has gone nutso koo koo, I could have hung with a 2007 era left wing people, bohemians and hipsters just fine, it's these demons wearing human skin that I hate.

I miss the old left...
 
has the shooting started yet like they said it would if they overturned roe?
Liberals were shooting off their mouths, but that's about it.

It's almost like overweight white women and effeminate male feminists don't make a particularly fearsome fighting force. If only they could get BLM to care about abortions somehow, then we would see some shootings.
 
Liberals were shooting off their mouths, but that's about it.

It's almost like overweight white women and effeminate male feminists don't make a particularly fearsome fighting force. If only they could get BLM to care about abortions somehow, then we would see some shootings.
shame..... they were fine with burning and pillaging last year.
granted that was mostly just the Niggos.
 
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Republicans get to saunter into the mid-term kerfuffle with an activated base that got what it wanted and is happy to vote to ensure it stays that way. It's going to be a slaughter, I can't wait.
It's a double bonus, because now the RINOs have even less cover. The base has a taste of success after choking down failure and inaction for decades. They won't take anything less than highly aggressive, results oriented politicking, as they should. They are tired of delaying actions and defensive postures, they want to vote for people that are going to seize initiative and take territory.
 
I think these protests really hurt them. When people get to see the crazies who agree with them on these things and their behavior it makes a few question their own beliefs.
It's the Rick and Morty effect. Even if you support it in principle, nobody with any self-awareness wants to be associated with such an insane, embarrassing fanbase.

And that's a vicious spiral where the normies start distancing themselves, leading the remaining supporters to look ever more deranged until the thing itself becomes a laughingstock.
 
It would be very Dem "strategy" to deliberately fail to pass something protecting abortion at the federal level, by letting them filibuster it, in the hopes that this makes them look bad enough people give them the heave-ho, never mind that impotence is never particularly inspiring.

Dems are shockingly lazy when it comes to doing what needs to be done here if they care about the issue, which is immediately protect it where it is already the law, while looking for really bad laws in other states that still won't withstand scrutiny, because some batch of hicks is probably going to be emboldened enough to go way too far.
Your thought as a lawyer on the reversal?
 
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What a great end to Gay Month!
Time to take back the month of June fellas!
If Obergefell is set to fall in the future, then at the very least, please, please, please, please, pleeeaaassseee hand the ruling down in June.

The thought of such a blow coming *during* fag month is too delicious. It could cause a meltdown that would render the month too tainted and triggering to celebrate, because there’d be no way to celebrate #PRIDE! in June without being inevitably reminded of The Tragedy.

Imagine if the downstream result of an overturning is a sentiment of tidal change, and people who may have supported the idea of pride month begin to peel away and stop giving a shit? With SCOTUS backing, “the gays” stop being in vogue. What follows is corporations and broader culture simply shelving fag month, unafraid of consequence, because a group of triggered queers is no longer powerful and scary to where they feel the need to bend the knee to avoid liability. I.e., no more recognition, seasonal marketing, and temporary rainbow logos on Twatter. Parades/events become smaller, more somber, and less publicly visible. Rather than being outliers, the lack of identity celebration finally forces the gays to become what they dread: ordinary members of society, who, when they get uppity, are responded to with “oh, you think YOU’RE so special?!?”

…Or, it could backfire and have the opposite effect, with the queers becoming louder and more shameless.
 
I'm going to cross post from the Biden thread here since it seems more applicable here.

I wonder if there's some level of agreement in the SCOTUS that the current balance of power and existing checks is not stable

A lot of government stability has been historically based around a gentleman's agreement between the branches and their members. As long as everyone understood where they were and played nice, nobody actually had to play hardball - and absent a few friction points here and there it worked very well.

What we're seeing now is the Court recognizing that the 'soft' parallel system built from brandy and handshakes at the country club or mutual schooling at the Ivies has completely collapsed due to an aggressive statist ideology (Radical Post-Modern Marxism). More startlingly than seeing that in the Executive or Legislative branches, where there was always a bit of struggle, is that SCOTUS is seeing it in the lower courts.

Reading the most recent Bruen opinion was slightly shocking if you're familiar with the way the SCOTUS writes, the language used was extremely and uncharacteristically strong. Thomas and Alito especially seem furious with the Appeal Circuits, and I think they've realized that the other branches have poisoned the courts and disrespected them personally as Justices and the Constitution/rule of law.

From the SCOTUS perspective, the old way is over, and the Radicals killed it. The sleeping giant has awoke, to make a WW2 reference, and it seems that the Justices are ready to exercise their power fully and discard the old wishy-washy half measures of Roberts and previous Courts. They'll do it gladly, as from their view they were dragged into a conflict that was escalated by the other side.

A hostile SCOTUS means a SCOTUS who will almost always rule against the current Admin basically out of pure spite. This means anything the admin wants is DOA. The only option then is to try to pack the court which is resisted and hated by both the people and the majority of congress.

For us non Americans, would be interested in hearing more on this. Intent? Where will this go? Potential implications?

Aside from just ruling against Biden et al at every chance, the Court has several options that would have more fundamental and far reaching consequences. First, you have to understand that Roe was not unique, or an outlier. There are many decisions in the last 50 or 60 years of jurisprudence that are simultaneously weak and foundational to the modern administrative state and Radical organizations.

For example, Chevron (1984), allows Congress to 'defer authority' to an executive agency with the force of law. This is how unelected Deep State bureaucrats in the FDA, EPA, or ATF decide on a whim that possession of a shoelace is a felony or your local factory has to spend 10 million for raccoon filters or go out of business. Ever since it was decided it's been on shaky ground, but nobody wanted to rock the boat - but now that the gloves are off, the current SCOTUS might not give a flying fuck. Overturning Chevron would, in a stroke, cripple the current administrative state because, just like with Roe, everyone in the Executive and Legislative assumed they'd just get away with it forever.

Here's another example, NY Times vs Sullivan, which held pretty high standards for defamation lawsuits, basically giving media carte blanche to lie and smear whoever they choose. Thomas in particular would like to overturn that, and likely at the same stroke remove the improperly granted shield of 230 from social media. Can you imagine a post-Sullivan world where newspapers could be sued for constant hate propaganda? It would cripple the social-media complex that makes up a majority of the Radicals soft power.

Those are just two big actions the court could take that would hit the administration immediately and forcefully, but it's only the tip of the iceberg. How would you like affirmative action declared unconstitutional? They could make it a twofer and nix all diversity initiatives while they're at it too! You want to force hard borders by declaring anything except imprisonment or return for border jumpers? Easy. They could even find that illegal anchor babies aren't 'subject to the jurisdictions under the 14th and therefore not citizens. (The irony of Thomas authoring a Blood and Soil opinion would kill me.)

There is no bottom to the ways that SCOTUS could throw massive wrenches into every activity of the other branches at fundamental, far reaching levels. They just never had the motivation to do so - until now.
 
If Obergefell is set to fall in the future, then at the very least, please, please, please, please, pleeeaaassseee hand the ruling down in June.

The thought of such a blow coming *during* fag month is too delicious. It could cause a meltdown that would render the month too tainted and triggering to celebrate, because there’d be no way to celebrate #PRIDE! in June without being inevitably reminded of The Tragedy.

Imagine if the downstream result of an overturning is a sentiment of tidal change, and people who may have supported the idea of pride month begin to peel away and stop giving a shit? With SCOTUS backing, “the gays” stop being in vogue. What follows is corporations and broader culture simply shelving fag month, unafraid of consequence, because a group of triggered queers is no longer powerful and scary to where they feel the need to bend the knee to avoid liability. I.e., no more recognition, seasonal marketing, and temporary rainbow logos on Twatter. Parades/events become smaller, more somber, and less publicly visible. Rather than being outliers, the lack of identity celebration finally forces the gays to become what they dread: ordinary members of society, who, when they get uppity, are responded to with “oh, you think YOU’RE so special?!?”

…Or, it could backfire and have the opposite effect, with the queers becoming louder and more shameless.
Supreme Court decisions are usually always in the month of June but there aren't any cases challenging those laws in the pipeline and I can't imagine any state suing so they can ban gay marriage.
 
I think a major factor is that if you were already a diehard 'must abort my infants' voter, you were already showing up every year for democrats. They can't really squeeze more votes out of the perpetually outraged social libs because they already have all that vote already. Most of the people who vote based on abortion vote for the GOP because they hate it.

This won't move the needle either way. Especially since the people most likely to be outraged already live in states where it will... continue to be legal. Because that's what roe v wade being overturned did - returned it to the states.
It's hard to say, the rational outcome would be abortion drops out of national political debate, but politics isn't rational and only rarely coincides with the public interest. You might have assumed in 2016 that people would quickly notice they weren't actually living under some kind of Nazi-Putin regime, but that's not what happened - the political climate only got more violently deranged over time because the entire opinion-shaping class was mad af.

It's kind of like the tranny groomer stuff - extremely unpopular with actual voters, but important to key donor and activist constituencies on the left, so they find themselves unable to shut the fuck up about it. If the GOP is smart ( :story: ) they'll pocket this unintended win and move on to less contentious talking points at the federal level, but they might not be able to.
 
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