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Damn, talk about some strong "nice guy" vibes. Lol this seriously does kinda look and sound like something an abusive person would do, even in CurrentYear with #metoo shit like come on dude you're actually dumb enough to think this doesn't look sketch?

Having her sign a fucking NDA with a lawyer present after banging would look less sketch than this shit where he's shoving a camera in her face, "look you can't talk bad to me, got it? You have bruises? I didn't touch you though, did I? See how respectful I am! Now say it for the camera, say those bruises aren't from me, SAY IT!"

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Looks like Pelosi just fired off a new screechfit directed at SCOTUS and actually said the highest court in the land is a body of extremists that is punishing the American people
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Cope and seethe, baby killer.
 
Oh thank fuck.


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black people, in general have slightly lower IQs and largely either came over as slaves or came over from shithole countries where they carried over their shithole cultures. Africa is a shithole in general. These all combine to create much greater tendencies and chances to commit crime.

Two key concepts, opportunity and integration.

The greater opportunity a country has the less crime it has generally. The greater a given population integrates into a country the closer to its culture and values that population becomes.

Brazil is, to be frank, lacking in opportunity and has severe integration issues stemming back to its founding, This is true of most of South America really. The U.S..... actually is about the same right now. But wasn't for a period. And during that period African American's found their niche of opportunity in manufacturing and other blue collar work. Crime went down, their communities were created, and the process of integration had begun. If it had continued on track there wouldn't be this issue.

But it did not.

I said in the post you respond to abortion is but one root cause. Others are an incredibly predatory welfare system, active grievance mongers whose sole purpose is to continue the destruction, and a rife gang culture actively bred and propagated by the left. All made possible to tear down that integrating community by an economic tsunami which destroyed the manufacturing jobs.

People have pointed to the prior race riots as counters to this, but its missing the larger point. The Democrats wanted an enslaved voting populace, blacks were ideal for this and they had been working on tearing down this nascent community for a while. It is hardly a new thing that the people who actually start shit are all Democrat operatives, plants, and lackeys. Put simply, the black community in the united states was on track to fully integrate and was sabotaged from within and without, and things like abortion have been used to keep them there.
Thanks, I understand what you meant much better now. I do have to wonder though, after getting the black population on a leash like that, why did the Democrats feel the need to bring the Latinos in waves to keep their voting base strong? They have their own path towards integration but there's only so much that the pre-existing society can do to accept them. It wouldn't be out of the question that blacks and Latinos will soon have to compete for a space, which would create more problems and racial animosity. It just doesn't make sense to me. But then again, there's things liberals do that we will never be able to make sense of anyway.
 
Abortion legislation in Congress is something to keep an eye on. I think this could be a pressure point where the Democrat Civil War™️ really spills out into the open if the Democrats in Congress can't push stuff through.

Democratic exasperation builds at Biden's slow roll on Roe​

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"We all knew this was coming," Rep. Pramila Jayapal said. The White House is vowing that specific federal actions are coming, with few details.

When it comes to protecting abortion rights, Democrats want Joe Biden to get aggressive. And fast.

Frustration is building among liberals over what some see as a slow executive response from the president, despite weeks to prepare following POLITICO’s publication of a draft majority opinion forecasting the Supreme Court’s overturning of Roe v. Wade. White House officials contend that things are more complicated than they seem, but that’s doing little to turn down the temperature in the party.

“He made a strong statement the day of. I would have liked to see some more specific actions rolled out,” said Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), who leads the Congressional Progressive Caucus. “We all knew this was coming.”

Jayapal spent part of Monday in meetings with Biden officials and encouraged them on the sidelines to do more, urging a look at further agency-level moves to protect abortion access — the sort of action that White House aides say is coming soon, albeit without specifics so far.

It’s not a full Democratic pile-on yet, even as the party’s base rages after the conservative-leaning high court stripped a nationwide right to abortion. That’s in part because Democrats recognize both that Biden’s hands are somewhat tied and that the dynamics in Congress don’t allow a robust response. Nonetheless, lawmakers like Jayapal and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) are pressing the president for a more urgent counterattack.

Among their ideas: covering expenses for federal employees who need to travel to receive abortion services, helping pay for out-of-state abortions, enshrining abortion access for active-duty military and opening up federal lands to abortion counseling and procedures. Some Democrats are even examining whether tribal governments could help provide abortion services.

“We need our president at this moment to step up and remind everyone that we Democrats don’t believe the government should be making a decision about whether to continue a pregnancy,” Warren said in an interview on Monday.

Biden aides, meanwhile, say they want to go on offense, but their options are limited.

The White House said a number of federal agencies would roll out new abortion protections in the days ahead but did not supply details on Monday. Aides also whipped up a public outreach campaign and directed surrogates, including Vice President Kamala Harris, to fan out on television to reassure Democrats.

Biden has highlighted his executive powers to protect abortion medication availability by mail and the right to interstate travel for an abortion — steps that the rest of his party have cheered.

But his team argues there are sharp limits to his executive powers to protect abortion access. Administration officials stress the White House needs to mount a public response that’s realistic about its limits to avoid doing long-term political or practical harm to their goals. That approach may not alleviate Hill Democrats’ concerns about the lack of a coordinated, direct pushback to Roe’s collapse.

And the flurry of Democratic demands for quick action sparked a degree of annoyance in the White House, where aides say they’ve spent the last two months stress-testing ideas for blunting the ruling’s impact.

A White House official warned that opening abortion clinics on federal land like Warren suggests would be “well-intentioned, [but] it could put women and providers at risk” by opening women and providers to potential prosecution.

Many Democrats are still calling on Biden to push the limits of his power to protect as many women as possible. Twenty Black female Democrats also sent a letter asking Biden to immediately declare a public health emergency: “We must act urgently as if lives depend on it because they do.”

In a Saturday letter led by Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), the No. 3 Democratic leader, 34 Senate Democrats urged Biden to “take every step available to your administration, across federal agencies, to help women access abortions and other reproductive health care.”

“I want the administration to look at all of its options here,” said Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-N.H.), who signed the letter. She added, though, that she’s most focused on “making clear to the people of my state what’s on the ballot this fall.”

Sarah Godlewski, Wisconsin’s state treasurer and a Senate candidate, wants Biden to direct Medicaid to pay for out-of-state abortions and cut red tape for abortion medication availability. There are things “the president can be doing to help folks in Wisconsin right now who are no longer able to get access to abortion care,” she said. The state’s Planned Parenthood clinics temporarily suspended their abortion services.

However, the administration is also limited by the long-standing legislative provision known as the Hyde amendment, which bars the use of federal funds to pay for abortion. That restriction, which the Democratic-controlled Congress has left intact, complicates any effort to have Medicaid fund out-of-state travel for abortions.

At the heart of the intra-party tension over abortion is a complaint Democratic lawmakers have also offered about the White House’s approach to spiking inflation: As a problem emerges and grows, they say, the White House is slow to offer guidance and taking too cautious an approach to Congress.

White House aides protest that Biden simply can’t do all that much solely by executive fiat, saying legislation would be needed. The administration has chewed over scores of executive orders, including the potential national public health emergency that Black Democrats have sought. They’ve also looked at ways the Justice Department could fight efforts to prosecute those crossing state lines to get abortions.

Any such legal support would not fully replace what Friday’s ruling took away and would surely face legal obstacles. But some Democrats say no matter what happens in the courts going forward, the White House needs to pursue those options, and more.

“Of course, there will be legal challenges,” Warren said. “But the fact that an extremist Supreme Court has taken steps that most of America believed they would never take, doesn’t mean that we back down. It means we get into the fight harder than ever.”

Preliminary plans are underway for the president to address the nation again on the matter soon after returning to Washington from business overseas, but nothing has been finalized, according to White House officials.

Democrats hope the Roe reversal will fire up their base ahead of the midterms, and the White House aims to set up a travel schedule highlighting the issue. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi laid out Monday a series of votes the House may take on enshrining Roe and protecting privacy for those seeking abortions, aiming to create a contrast with the GOP.

Notably, both Warren and Jayapal — two high-profile progressive leaders — said that even as they lean on Biden to act now, they recognize “the real showdown is coming in November,” as the senator put it. Jayapal wants Biden to publicly call for weakening the Senate’s 60-vote requirement on the issue of abortion rights — just as he did earlier this year with voting rights.

“It would be wonderful if he would acknowledge that this is a critical right, just as voting rights are. I think we also need to just recognize, even his voice is not enough on this.” Jayapal said, adding that Democrats need “two more senators” willing to weaken the filibuster for abortion rights.

For all of Biden’s willingness to use his voice since Friday, though, the White House had little concrete ready to roll out when the decision came down. After weekly meetings that drew senior Biden aides, state officials and abortion rights groups, including Planned Parenthood and NARAL, the administration’s lack of specific moves over the past 48 hours has surprised some legal experts and allies.

“It’s a shocking silence,” one outside adviser said roughly an hour after Friday’s ruling.
 
Damn, talk about some strong "nice guy" vibes. Lol this seriously does kinda look and sound like something an abusive person would do, even in CurrentYear with #metoo shit like come on dude you're actually dumb enough to think this doesn't look sketch?

Having her sign a fucking NDA with a lawyer present after banging would look less sketch than this shit where he's shoving a camera in her face, "look you can't talk bad to me, got it? You have bruises? I didn't touch you though, did I? See how respectful I am! Now say it for the camera, say those bruises aren't from me, SAY IT!"

Edit -

Looks like Pelosi just fired off a new screechfit directed at SCOTUS and actually said the highest court in the land is a body of extremists that is punishing the American people
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Nancy Pelosi dragged kicking and screaming to do her fucking job.
 
So... any chance this will move the needle for the midterms and more?

I mean, political theater aside and the whole "oh Democracy is going to die, all the women will now live in the Handmaid's dystopia", can this subject be even tangible for the common voter?

I mean, according to some quick google search, DC and California alone make up for more than 70% of abortions in whole country, not to mention that the vast majority of abortions in the US are performed in States that still allow for it no problem, so even if all the kick and scream about abortion being banned, it just won't translate to reality.

Yes, Gobbles said a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth, but you know, that lie at least need some ground to work with, and most likely we won't see the US filled with families struck down with "unwanted" children due a "abortion ban".

I'm aware that the Dems don't have a lot of cards on their deck right now, and this seems more like it is just a nice preach to the quire, I mean, did you see the big smile on AOC's face when she was down to protest the decision? That was showtime to her, she loves the attention, but regadless, does that translate to votes?

I know media and such have a big influence, but the vast majority of the people, abortion isn't and will never be a issue in their lives, but we all live with the fact that our monetary power depend somewhat on governmental action, so is it the best idea for the dems to be banging on these drums ?
 
Thanks, I understand what you meant much better now. I do have to wonder though, after getting the black population on a leash like that, why did the Democrats feel the need to bring the Latinos in waves to keep their voting base strong? They have their own path towards integration but there's only so much that the pre-existing society can do to accept them. It wouldn't be out of the question that blacks and Latinos will soon have to compete for a space, which would create more problems and racial animosity. It just doesn't make sense to me. But then again, there's things liberals do that we will never be able to make sense of anyway.
Because while the growing black populations lock in a lot of urban areas, the Hispanic vote theoretically locks in the southern states. A two prong strategy that is slowly unravelling and blowing up in their faces.

So... any chance this will move the needle for the midterms and more?

I mean, political theater aside and the whole "oh Democracy is going to die, all the women will now live in the Handmaid's dystopia", can this subject be even tangible for the common voter?

I mean, according to some quick google search, DC and California alone make up for more than 70% of abortions in whole country, not to mention that the vast majority of abortions in the US are performed in States that still allow for it no problem, so even if all the kick and scream about abortion being banned, it just won't translate to reality.

Yes, Gobbles said a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth, but you know, that lie at least need some ground to work with, and most likely we won't see the US filled with families struck down with "unwanted" children due a "abortion ban".

I'm aware that the Dems don't have a lot of cards on their deck right now, and this seems more like it is just a nice preach to the quire, I mean, did you see the big smile on AOC's face when she was down to protest the decision? That was showtime to her, she loves the attention, but regadless, does that translate to votes?

I know media and such have a big influence, but the vast majority of the people, abortion isn't and will never be a issue in their lives, but we all live with the fact that our monetary power depend somewhat on governmental action, so is it the best idea for the dems to be banging on these drums ?
The short answer, no.

The longer answer, no*.

*While Roe dying does drive higher enthusiasm for Dems, that enthusiasm is largely localized to Democrat strongholds and... nowhere else really. Anywhere outside of these strongholds the increase in enthusiasm is match by Republican increases. So its a wash.
 
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It was posted earlier but I like how Mayra is calling the shit out, either because she's channeling the MAGA force or realizes she's got four months of really doing nothing until she hopefully gets re-elected. Hispanic mom sticking up for her kids against old gringo will definitely help her optics in Texas. El Naranja? Si say padway! Bruja blanca? Dios mio.
 
The left must really hate that beautiful piece of paper by now....
If noncitizens voting in NYC was allowed to stand, the next step for the Dems would have been to scream about how backwards and reactionary it is that noncitizens are only allowed to vote if they reside within the United States. Followed by combination food airlift and voting booth installation operations in the slums of New Delhi and Calcutta and every Brazilian favela. Rock the vote!
 
Thanks, I understand what you meant much better now. I do have to wonder though, after getting the black population on a leash like that, why did the Democrats feel the need to bring the Latinos in waves to keep their voting base strong? They have their own path towards integration but there's only so much that the pre-existing society can do to accept them. It wouldn't be out of the question that blacks and Latinos will soon have to compete for a space, which would create more problems and racial animosity. It just doesn't make sense to me. But then again, there's things liberals do that we will never be able to make sense of anyway.
My guess is shortsightedness. Somebody said "oh no, an underserved population" at which point they decided to try and help. They need a very large tent.
And yes, I saw Gahenna already answered but I was typing.
 
It wouldn't be out of the question that blacks and Latinos will soon have to compete for a space, which would create more problems and racial animosity.
Blacks and latinos on the whole generally already hate each other when you're talking about the low-income sector of both.
So... any chance this will move the needle for the midterms and more?

I mean, political theater aside and the whole "oh Democracy is going to die, all the women will now live in the Handmaid's dystopia", can this subject be even tangible for the common voter?

I mean, according to some quick google search, DC and California alone make up for more than 70% of abortions in whole country, not to mention that the vast majority of abortions in the US are performed in States that still allow for it no problem, so even if all the kick and scream about abortion being banned, it just won't translate to reality.

Yes, Gobbles said a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth, but you know, that lie at least need some ground to work with, and most likely we won't see the US filled with families struck down with "unwanted" children due a "abortion ban".

I'm aware that the Dems don't have a lot of cards on their deck right now, and this seems more like it is just a nice preach to the quire, I mean, did you see the big smile on AOC's face when she was down to protest the decision? That was showtime to her, she loves the attention, but regadless, does that translate to votes?

I know media and such have a big influence, but the vast majority of the people, abortion isn't and will never be a issue in their lives, but we all live with the fact that our monetary power depend somewhat on governmental action, so is it the best idea for the dems to be banging on these drums ?
The reason they're pissed off as I've posted before has nothing to do with it affecting them per se but that it's being restricted in places they plan on escaping to when the consequences of their political ideology and the people they vote to enact it finally comes up to their own back yard. This goes double for all the locusts who've already relocated to places in the south like Texas.
 
My guess is shortsightedness. Somebody said "oh no, an underserved population" at which point they decided to try and help. They need a very large tent.
And yes, I saw Gahenna already answered but I was typing.
They thought it was a vote they'd have on their side forever since there's no difference between them and black Americans, and the over-educated midwits that make up most Democrat leadership don't really have a proper theory of mind for minority groups, they just view them as convenient allies who agree that white male republicans are the antichrist.
 
Damn, talk about some strong "nice guy" vibes. Lol this seriously does kinda look and sound like something an abusive person would do, even in CurrentYear with #metoo shit like come on dude you're actually dumb enough to think this doesn't look sketch?

Having her sign a fucking NDA with a lawyer present after banging would look less sketch than this shit where he's shoving a camera in her face, "look you can't talk bad to me, got it? You have bruises? I didn't touch you though, did I? See how respectful I am! Now say it for the camera, say those bruises aren't from me, SAY IT!"

Edit -

Looks like Pelosi just fired off a new screechfit directed at SCOTUS and actually said the highest court in the land is a body of extremists that is punishing the American people
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ah yes, the first privacy rights I can think of are invitro and contraception access

something something patriot act
 
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