Supreme Court Watch

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Lmao I never called you an NPC or said the words seethe or dilate, only pointed out an obvious truth.

You seem very defensive over the fact that left-wing NPCs greatly outnumber right-wing ones. Perhaps it's because if you were to admit that you couldn't act so oppressed and angry all the time. Now that's not a good coping mechanism.

You seem pretty heavy in denial about you and your fellow right-wingers being equally NPCs to your left-wing counterparts.

"ABORTION MURDER"
"ORANGE MAN GOOD"
"FOX NEWS GOOD"
"CLARENCE THOMAS BASED"
Sounds like NPC behavior to me

Cope and seethe harder.

Doubt it all you want hulk. You're not getting a doctor to kill your baby in Texas.

That's not it, though. Texas citizens can still sue other citizens for getting an abortion in another state.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

That was literally what RvW court case was. I see you're fine with it, despite what you said earlier though

How the fuck did you extrapolate that I'm "okay" with anything when all I did was ask what amendment specifically protected abortion? The Supreme Court just determined it wasn't protected by the Constitution. Are you of the impression that the court changes legislation? I even stated that states can't prosecute abortion tourism because it occurs outside their jurisdiction, which itself would violate the constitution if they tried.

 

[updoot farmer]

right-wingers being equally NPCs to your left-wing counterparts.

Holy shit, something I agree with you on.

Abortion is murder, but the biggest problem with abortion is that we don't have any support structures for women whose mental health is affected by the procedure, not the fact that it's acessible.

 

[TJT]

It's generally a known fact that most abortions occur within the first trimester, which it seems a good number of people agree upon. However, a lot of fuckery can happen and it's around 20ish weeks for doctors to know if the baby has issues.

Little scatterbrained, don't mind me. The abortion pill doesn't work if you take specific medications or if you're overweight, which in the united states isn't exactly unheard of. And if the pills aren't available because states want to ban those, that kind of makes your point moot. And it is usually pills that are used to induce abortion in the first trimester. It starts getting a bit dicey (unintentional but intentional pun) in the second and third, though.

I don't think a majority of people pretty much anywhere are trying to abort babies post-birth. That would be murder.

The entire reasoning for the major wave of abortion backlash was the incessant pushing of feminists to put more and more freedoms on abortion. Some of them were:

1. Put abortion as a guaranteed right (also must be funded by taxpayers) and provided to any woman for any reason no questions into the state constitution.
2. Abortion should have no limits. If you wanted to abort on the day you went into labor that should be available.

Shockingly, anti-abortionists who tolerated the state of abortion since 1973 were vehemently against this and took steps to restrict it further. It didn't happen for no reason.

 

[Matt Damon]

That was literally what RvW court case was. I see you're fine with it, despite what you said earlier though

There's quite a difference between being personally fine with something and realizing that it's not constitutionally prohibited to ban it.

Such intellectual integrity doesn't appear to be your strong suit though.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I even stated that states can't prosecute abortion tourism because it occurs outside their jurisdiction, which itself would violate the constitution if they tried.

Except like I said, that's never stopped them before.

Up until RvW was overturned, it was not constitutional to ban it at the state level, but they were still doing it. Now, RvW is obviously no longer a thing, but it was even just a few weeks ago.

There's quite a difference between being personally fine with something and realizing that it's not constitutionally prohibited to ban it.

Such intellectual integrity doesn't appear to be your strong suit though.

I see you're missing the point. Something being unconstitutional has never stopped your precious GOPers before. It was unconstitutional, via RvW, to ban abortions just a week ago, yet GOPers did it.

 

[Lurker]

Abortion pills are by far the most tolerable form of abortion. Democrats could have had first trimester abortion as federal law but they wanted to kill 9 month old babies too and wouldn't compromise.

if I were a woman getting an abortion, I'd probably be skeeved out getting one when the fetus can be generally considered viable outside the womb.

yet if a woman chooses to have an abortion of that nature, while I may not agree with it, it is her decision, not mine.

compromise for either side seems like admitting loss, so as long as that seems to be the case, I don't think we're going to make much headway.

 

[Netizennameless]

I think a fairer assessment of the NPC debate is right wing NPC are closer to the far right,

Disagree. It's the neo-cons that are NPCs. It's Bush Republicans that cry about conservative spending until they get into office and then spend like drunken sailors.

the left wing NPC infect the totality of their political parties. It's damning that independents and centrists tend to have conservative values, but aren't hard line on Republican talking points.

that's because Republicans lie just as much as democrats and can't be trusted with blind power. See the patriot act.

The vast majority of democrats tend to be hardliners and march lock-step where ever the DNC wants to take them. Democrats also take really strict with us or against us stances which among all the other problems it brings with their ability to reason and compromise, makes them insufferable cunts.

This isn't unique to the democrats. The authoritarian party just changes hands on occasion.

 

[Getting tard comed]

How the fuck did you extrapolate that I'm "okay" with anything when all I did was ask what amendment specifically protected abortion? The Supreme Court just determined it wasn't protected by the Constitution. Are you of the impression that the court changes legislation? I even stated that states can't prosecute abortion tourism because it occurs outside their jurisdiction, which itself would violate the constitution if they tried.

He's mad and he's trolling. There really isn't much to get out of him in terms of rational discourse.

His response to own the pro lifers is if you want to prevent abortions make 10 year olds get mandatory vasectomies. Showing a fundamental misunderstanding of the prolife position.

 

[updoot farmer]

I see you're missing the point. Something being unconstitutional has never stopped your precious GOPers before. It was unconstitutional, via RvW, to ban abortions just a week ago, yet GOPers did it.

It's also unconstitutional to fuck with the second amendment (a right that is codified in the constitution) yet both parties regularly fuck with it. Cry me a godsdamn river. Politicians are scum. Rope, tree, journalist, some assembly required, etc.

 

[Puff]

I've linked the poll a dozen times in this thread. I don't think RvW should be overturned. Are you really arguing most women want to lose their bodily autonomy? Here's a poll that shows 56% of women agree with me, and that's the lowest I have seen: https://today.yougov.com/topics/pol...rican-opinion-supreme-court-abortion-roe-wade

This entire subforum alone should show that there's tons of right-wing NPCs. In fact, calling people who disagree with you "NPC" is an NPC behavior. Sorry the truth hurts you, son. In your own words, cope and seethe and dilate. It's not healthy to live in denial as a coping mechanism.

I want to know what your view on abortion is.
We've done this dance before and saying a majority don't support overturning just means that they don't support the results they THINK come of overturning, which is a blanket ban for many of the liberals and normies watching TV and Twitter.
You're hiding behind buzzwords.
What do you want the limits of abortion to be?

 

[Cilleystring]

L

You seem pretty heavy in denial about you and your fellow right-wingers being equally NPCs to your left-wing counterparts.

"ABORTION MURDER"
"ORANGE MAN GOOD"
"FOX NEWS GOOD"
"CLARENCE THOMAS BASED"
Sounds like NPC behavior to me

Cope and seethe harder.

Haha look out everyone I'm the far right bc I disagreed with the Hulk about something! I must have all these views as well!

Perfect example of this post:

I think a fairer assessment of the NPC debate is right wing NPC are closer to the far right, the left wing NPC infect the totality of their political parties. It's damning that independents and centrists tend to have conservative values, but aren't hard line on Republican talking points. The vast majority of democrats tend to be hardliners and march lock-step where ever the DNC wants to take them. Democrats also take really strict with us or against us stances which among all the other problems it brings with their ability to reason and compromise, makes them insufferable cunts.

 

[Lurker]

The entire reasoning for the major wave of abortion backlash was the incessant pushing of feminists to put more and more freedoms on abortion. Some of them were:

1. Put abortion as a guaranteed right (also must be funded by taxpayers) and provided to any woman for any reason no questions into the state constitution.
2. Abortion should have no limits. If you wanted to abort on the day you went into labor that should be available.

Shockingly, anti-abortionists who tolerated the state of abortion since 1973 were vehemently against this and took steps to restrict it further. It didn't happen for no reason.

to be fair if troons can get their troonery funded by taxpayers, I don't really think abortion funded by taxpayers is an issue. that being said if the troons lose the ability to fund their troonery through taxes, you could make the argument that abortion shouldn't be, either.

what a woman does with something growing in and being sustained by her body isn't my business nor my call. I may not agree with it, but alas, it's not my body.

 

[updoot farmer]

And hey if the biggest problem is that abortion is funded by taxpayers, then it seems like abolishing income tax would solve that problem in a goddamn hurry.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Except like I said, that's never stopped them before.

Up until RvW was overturned, it was not constitutional to ban it at the state level, but they were still doing it. Now, RvW is obviously no longer a thing, but it was even just a few weeks ago.

Nothing I said was a contradiction of any earlier statement I made. Literally none of it.

I don't think you actually understand how the Supreme Court works. What exactly do you think Roe Vs Wade is?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I want to know what your view on abortion is.
We've done this dance before and saying a majority don't support overturning just means that they don't support the results they THINK come of overturning, which is a blanket ban for many of the liberals and normies watching TV and Twitter.
You're hiding behind buzzwords.
What do you want the limits of abortion to be?

Personally, I think they should be legal up until the fetus is viable outside the womb. That's usually 24 weeks in.

Nothing I said was a contradiction of any earlier statement I made. Literally none of it.

I don't think you actually understand how the Supreme Court works. What exactly do you think Roe Vs Wade is?

It sure was. Roe v Wade was saying it was unconstitutional to ban abortions. Yet, Republican states still did it either by making abortions impossible to get or actual bans.

It's telling that when someone mentions that Republicans are trying to ban going to another state for an abortion, all you say is "that's unconstitutional" instead of "that's retarded, thankfully it's unconstutitional"

 

[Lurker]

What do you want the limits of abortion to be?

whatever age you are specifically, I'd ban abortion a day after that.

jkjkjkjkjkjk just trying to have some levity

 

[Getting tard comed]

what a woman does with something growing in and being sustained by her body isn't my business nor my call. I may not agree with it, but alas, it's not my body.

Why doesn't this apply to any other situation where someone is being supported and sustained by someone else? Is the exception specifically that the baby is in the womb?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

L

Haha look out everyone I'm the far right bc I disagreed with the Hulk about something! I must have all these views as well!

Perfect example of this post:

"I do nothing but spout right-wing talking points. Why does HHH think I am a right-winger?"

Sorry, but you and your fellow A&Hers are as much NPCs as you accuse others of being.

 

[Lurker]

Why doesn't this apply to any other situation where someone is being supported and sustained by someone else? Is the exception specifically that the baby is in the womb?

I'd need an example.