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Also, didn't he start the ball rolling on the Afghanistan pull out?
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That he did. The issue was Biden tore up those plans and made the whole thing more catastrophic and a failure on America’s part.

JaneThough said:
Who, exactly, is going to war with us now?
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Nobody, but apparently people think someone like China, Russia, or Iran will look at how woke America has become and sees Uncle Sam as about to be bent over a table and fucked raw if push comes to shove.
 
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Random Internet Person said:
That he did. The issue was Biden tore up those plans and made the whole thing more catastrophic and a failure on America’s part.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Trump first make agreements with the Taliban and then plan to leave way earlier than what Biden ultimately did, so that if anything, Biden made it less of a clusterfuck by giving everyone more time to prepare leaving the nation?

I mean, if it was such a massive failure the way Biden did it, wouldn't it have been even worse if Trump had tried doing it even quicker?
 
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I think the plan was that all the American soldiers and civilians would be out by a certain day, and then the country could go wild. But then Biden came along and tore that up and announced they'd leave on some sort of anniversary date because optics. Taliban decides to overthrow the government and exiles all over the Internet cheer because an American backed puppet state is toppled and globohomo gets punched in the teeth and in the nuts.
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It was a shitshow the way it panned out, how is L E S S time to realize the full evacuation going to make it any less of a clusterfuck? If anything it would have been even worse.

People bitching at Biden for "losing" Afghanistan are pretty much blinded by moronic ideology. Afghanistan was a lost cause before Bush left office.
Bush dropped the ball shortly after invading it, Obama fumbled around some more, then King Dipshit came into office, dicked around some more and now we got Sleepy Joe, who inherited this entire mess. He could be the best President in the world and that thing would still have been a huge fiasco.
 
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RomanesEuntDomus said:
It was a shitshow the way it panned out, how is L E S S time to realize the full evacuation going to make it any less of a clusterfuck? If anything it would have been even worse.

People bitching at Biden for "losing" Afghanistan are pretty much blinded by moronic ideology. Afghanistan was a lost cause before Bush left office.
Bush dropped the ball shortly after invading it, Obama fumbled around some more, then King Dipshit came into office, dicked around some more and now we got Sleepy Joe, who inherited this entire mess. He could be the best President in the world and that thing would still have been a huge fiasco.
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And Trump still has an ego the size of Siberia.


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Nobody, but apparently people think someone like China, Russia, or Iran will look at how woke America has become and sees Uncle Sam as about to be bent over a table and fucked raw if push comes to shove.
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Which is hilarious because:
China’s export economy is wholly dependent on steady trade with the international community. The U.S. being among the biggest markets.

Russia’s Ukraine bumblefuck has shown the best thing the Kremlin can do is buy twitter bots and maybe social engineer some passwords out of a boomer Democrat campaign manager.
Russia’s military capability was drowned in a sea of nepotism and sleaze.

Iran? lol. lmao. A nuke? They’re a step above North Korea in that regard.

These people don’t live in reality.
 
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LettuceMan said:
Which is hilarious because:
China’s export economy is wholly dependent on steady trade with the international community. The U.S. being among the biggest markets.

Russia’s Ukraine bumblefuck has shown the best thing the Kremlin can do is buy twitter bots and maybe social engineer some passwords out of a boomer Democrat campaign manager.
Russia’s military capability was drowned in a sea of nepotism and sleaze.

Iran? lol. lmao. A nuke? They’re a step above North Korea in that regard.

These people don’t live in reality.
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Just to put things into perspective: China has the largest army in the world... on paper. Their actual confidence in real warfare is barely enough to make them rattle their sabre at Taiwan. If the West had gone "Yeah fuck Ukraine, not our fucking problem", China might have gotten funny ideas with Taiwan, but the way it stands? I dunno. At best, they might now hope that the US will exhaust its coffers for supplies in Ukraine, leaving them without anything for Taiwan, but China is insanely dependent on foreign markets.
Their housing/real estate bubble is going to impoverish their entire nation, the old ones will be hit the hardest, cause buying real estate and apartments is literally the only way how they can save money for old age. The Chinese economy is living on borrowed time and if they were hit by the same kind of sanctions that hit Russia, they'd implode immediately.
 
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RomanesEuntDomus said:
Just to put things into perspective: China has the largest army in the world... on paper. Their actual confidence in real warfare is barely enough to make them rattle their sabre at Taiwan. If the West had gone "Yeah fuck Ukraine, not our fucking problem", China might have gotten funny ideas with Taiwan, but the way it stands? I dunno. At best, they might now hope that the US will exhaust its coffers for supplies in Ukraine, leaving them without anything for Taiwan, but China is insanely dependent on foreign markets.
Their housing/real estate bubble is going to impoverish their entire nation, the old ones will be hit the hardest, cause buying real estate and apartments is literally the only way how they can save money for old age. The Chinese economy is living on borrowed time and if they were hit by the same kind of sanctions that hit Russia, they'd implode immediately.
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Yep to all your points.

Housing crisis (affecting much of the developed world really) is going to *really* fuck them, and their birthrate isn’t near sustainable to support the economy long term. You think the west has a birthrate problem? Ya’ll haven’t seen anything yet. This isn’t something Beijing is going to be able to bully their way out of.

Outside of a few border skirmishes, China’s military has next to none actual live combat experience. You can run as many drills as your want for training. But those training drills get improved based on “lessons learned” in actual combat scenarios. War Diary is a concept for a reason.
 
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mofu mofo said:
Now you mention it, image search only finds it on a couple of sites that are all Trump memes e.g. https://www.trumparea.com/ :thinking:

I think I've been had.
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This is why I try to verify everything, then stuff I'm inclined to believe. You have no idea how many times I've seen people share images of news articles like "Vigilante kills 20 pedophiles" and then get disappointed when it turns out not to be true.

The older I get, the less I trust anyone.
 
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With everything going on right now. Has Trump considered fleeing the U.S.? I know he has the money and I'm guessing Daddy Vladdy would put him up. I say this not out of malice, but really out of his own best interest. The only problem for prosecutors would be getting a full jury to convict.

One thought I had was maybe he's so narcissistic that despite all this testimony and evidence, he really thinks he's going to get off?
 
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