GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

TheDarknessGrows said:
I am looking to upgrade from a much older video card and have settled on two options that will be a huge upgrade. On the one hand is a RTX 3060 with 12GB of VRAM and on the other is a RTX 3070 with 8GB of VRAM.

Both will be great and are of similar price. But I was wondering what the opinions were concerning a better chipset versus more VRAM. I am leaning toward more VRAM.
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The 12 GB of vram on the 3060 was just marketing. You'll never need that much with that card. At the same price, definitely go for the 3070.
 
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Just Some Other Guy said:
Any particular need for an Nvidia card? AMD combines the performance+ vram pretty well this generation. Usually for cheaper too. In the US I'm seeing used 6700xts for $400 or lower.
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If you want to do streaming, nvidia pretty much dominates that using NVENC and their broadcast AI program. Other than that it's a toss up.
 
Road Work Ahead said:
The 12 GB of vram on the 3060 was just marketing. You'll never need that much with that card. At the same price, definitely go for the 3070.
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The nearly double number of cores was also pretty nice. And the 3070 I found is smaller than the 3060 so it will fit my mini-itx better.

I tried the small build and it was fun. But I would not build that small again.
 
Brain Problems said:
What's the go-to wattage for power supplies these days? I keep seeing 1000w ones on sale and that seems pretty gigantic to me but I haven't built a machine or paid attention to power consumption issues for almost 10 years.
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750W is plenty for even most gaming systems. And less for something that's not so fancy. The one advice I'd say is that don't compromise on the PSU. Sure, don't buy some 1000W monster when you don't need it but do NOT cheap out on something crappy or off-brand. PSU is the part of my computer that I am LEAST willing to compromise on. Even more so than drives and processor. It's the thing that ensures everything else stays healthy and a good brand and a good quality level with a bit of wattage overhead should last you forever.

I have heard that the next gen Nvidia cards are going to by very power-hungry. Just rumours so far, though.
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Since TDPs are likely increasing across the 4000 series, transient power spikes could give 750-850W PSU owners a headache:


If it does happen with any frequency, we will hear a lot of whining about it.

bigoogabaloogas said:
Shouldn't have waited to buy a CPU, since the 5600x is now $220 reeeeeeee
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I think it will go back down. Also, don't be afraid to grab the 5600 instead if it's cheaper.
 
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A pre-built is on heavy discount via Newegg (I know I know) and l was curious what you guys think of it:

Tacky gamer shit aside and I don't care about the case or keyboard or LEDs but curious if I were to build this myself from scratch if I could hit that price point even. And it looks reasonably modular but again, I haven't built a machine in a while and I'm totally out of practice.
 
Brain Problems said:
A pre-built is on heavy discount via Newegg (I know I know) and l was curious what you guys think of it:

Tacky gamer shit aside and I don't care about the case or keyboard or LEDs but curious if I were to build this myself from scratch if I could hit that price point even. And it looks reasonably modular but again, I haven't built a machine in a while and I'm totally out of practice.
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Are you just looking for something to play games on?

Looks pretty expensive for what you're getting, and that case is going to be pretty garbage for thermals. I'd also go for a 5600/5600x over the 5700g and 3060ti's are in stock on EVGA's site for $530. You coiuld build you're own and probably save $500 (or spend the same and get better parts) plus better out of the box thermals presuming you buy a good airflow focused case.

Edit: Threw together a parts list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cpFCDq add $530 for the gpu and that puts you at $1200 total.
 
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Road Work Ahead said:
The 12 GB of vram on the 3060 was just marketing. You'll never need that much with that card. At the same price, definitely go for the 3070.
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It was more like a desperation move, the alternative would have been 6GB.

Brain Problems said:
A pre-built is on heavy discount via Newegg (I know I know) and l was curious what you guys think of it:

Tacky gamer shit aside and I don't care about the case or keyboard or LEDs but curious if I were to build this myself from scratch if I could hit that price point even. And it looks reasonably modular but again, I haven't built a machine in a while and I'm totally out of practice.
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It's a bit odd combining a 5700G and a 3060Ti, depending on where the customer plugs in the cable one of those GPU will never be used. The G also comes with halving the L3 cache and that affects CPU performance. It won't ever matter in games if playing at 60fps but heavy productivity workloads will suffer.

The price difference between the 5700G and 5700X seems negligible(from a cursory glance it's like ~$20) and one will be better than the other. They don't specify any brand/manufacturer of motherboard as well and that's not great, same with the SSD and RAM.

It's the unnamed parts that concerns me more than the price. If there's a desired firmware update for the motherboard you will have to hope that cyberpower paid their no-brand mobo-supplier to write and release an update.
 
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bigoogabaloogas said:
holy fuck looking at techpowerup even a 6500XT is leagues better than the 1630, and EVGA's selling it for $200? Jesus fuck
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People I highly recommend Tech Power up. This is the go to place about tech instead of the current talking heads on You tube as well as many of the so called tech sites that are owned by large media groups.
 
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So what's a good AMD GPU for a midrange PC? I have seriously been out of the loop and would like to start my research. Planning a AMD/AMD build since I have no need for top tier 144hz 4k dual monitor setups or whatever is the rage these days. So long I can get a solid 60FPS on games, I'm happy.
 
Kane Lives said:
So what's a good AMD GPU for a midrange PC? I have seriously been out of the loop and would like to start my research. Planning a AMD/AMD build since I have no need for top tier 144hz 4k dual monitor setups or whatever is the rage these days. So long I can get a solid 60FPS on games, I'm happy.
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erm what games do you play?
 
Kane Lives said:
So what's a good AMD GPU for a midrange PC? I have seriously been out of the loop and would like to start my research. Planning a AMD/AMD build since I have no need for top tier 144hz 4k dual monitor setups or whatever is the rage these days. So long I can get a solid 60FPS on games, I'm happy.
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1080p? 1440p?
 
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