U.S. doctors see spike in vasectomies following end of Roe v. Wade: report - Men who would expect their girlfriends to kill their children are sterilizing themselves; here's why that's a good thing

Source: https://globalnews.ca/news/8958704/us-vasectomy-increase-roe-v-wade/


By Kathryn Mannie Global News


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Doctors across the U.S. are reporting a surge in requests for vasectomies following the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn the Roe v. Wade legal precedent that once guaranteed the federal right to an abortion, according to The Washington Post.

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Doug Stein, a urologist from Florida, a state that recently banned abortion past 15 weeks’ gestation, told The Post that he used to get about four or five vasectomy requests a day. Following the Supreme Court’s Friday ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, that number has jumped to 12 to 18 requests.

“It was very, very noticeable Friday, and then the number that came in over the weekend was huge and the number that is still coming in far exceeds what we have experienced in the past,” Stein said.

“Many of the guys are saying that they have been thinking about a vasectomy for a while, and the Roe v. Wade decision was just that final factor that tipped them over the edge and made them submit the online registration.”

A vasectomy is a quick and non-invasive surgery that prevents sperm from mixing with semen and is almost 100 per cent effective at preventing pregnancy.

Around 500,000 vasectomies take place in the U.S. each year and are mostly performed on people who are already married with children. About six per cent of men get a vasectomy as a form of birth control compared to about 18 per cent of women who get their tubes tied to prevent pregnancy (despite tubal ligation being a more invasive and risky procedure).

For its part, Canada has one of the highest vasectomy rates in the world, with approximately 22 per cent of couples practicing birth control choosing vasectomies.

A 2015 United Nations report revealed that Canada has higher vasectomy rates than tubal ligation rates — one of the only industrialized nations to have that distinction.

Stein told The Washington Post that he had to open up more days in his schedule to accommodate all the new vasectomy requests after his practice became fully booked with appointments through to the end of August.


Stein and associate John Curington said that most people coming in to request a vasectomy cited the overturning of Roe v. Wade as a main factor.

“I’d say at least 60 or 70 per cent are mentioning the Supreme Court decision,” Curington told The Post. “And a few of them have such sophistication as young men that they actually are thinking about Justice Thomas and his opinion that contraception may fall next. And that’s shocking. That’s something that doesn’t enter into our conversations ever, until this week.”


Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas wrote in his opinion on Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization that the court should not stop at just overturning Roe v. Wade.



“In future cases, we should reconsider all of this court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell,” Thomas wrote.

In 1965, Griswold v. Connecticut established a legal precedent for the use of contraception without government interference. The other two cases Thomas mentioned protect rights to same-sex marriage.




It’s not just urologists in Florida that are noticing this uptick in vasectomies. Philip Werthman, an L.A.-based urologist, told The Washington Post that the number of vasectomy consultations he has conducted recently has jumped by “300 to 400 per cent,” despite the fact that California has introduced a constitutional amendment to protect abortion access.

A urologist in Iowa, Esgar Guarín, reported to The Post a “200 to 250 per cent” increase in traffic to his website as people search for more information about vasectomies.

According to Guarín, there has been an overall upward trend in vasectomy requests in recent years, but this spike is significant — saying, “the overall upward trend continues but the dramatic bumps don’t.”

New York urologist Marc Goldstein used to perform plenty of vasectomy reversals, but is now seeing the opposite.


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“Now it’s the other way around,” he told The Washington Post. “So it’s been a dramatic shift. And this (Supreme Court decision) is only going to further impact that in terms of increasing requests.”


What patients have to say​

Seattle-based Greg Thomas said he had toyed with the idea of getting a vasectomy for some time, but the overturning of Roe v. Wade was the straw that broke the camel’s back. His partner has cerebral palsy, meaning a pregnancy would pose a serious risk to her health.

“I have long felt that birth control should be something penis-havers take more responsibility in, and nipping the problem in the bud seems the most logical. Even though I live in a state where abortion will still be legal, I do not want to ever put my partner in a position to risk her life, especially for something I can prevent,” he told Buzzfeed News.

Sean Sullivan of Boston told Buzzfeed News that he wanted to get a vasectomy as soon as the Supreme Court’s draft opinion on Roe v. Wade was leaked.

“I had a vasectomy literally this morning at 9 a.m., an hour before the announcement of the Supreme Court’s decision. Took 20 minutes and a $60 co-pay,” he said.

“I am a married father of twins, and my wife and I made the decision so that my wife did not have to obtain another IUD or other form of birth control,” Sullivan told Buzzfeed News. “10 out of 10. Would recommend.”
 
It's not the exact point of the article, but what's unreasonable about banning abortion past 15 weeks? That's plenty of time to decide if you want to get rid of the kid. Also, the further along a woman is, the riskier abortions become.
 
Doubt. Or at least this is not the whole story.

I've been under the impression that doctors are unwilling to give men vasectomies because it could be used to help a man cheat on his wife, or the wife might sue the doctor for defrauding her of potential offspring. It is possible for men to get a vasectomy but they have to either shop around for a doctor that isn't afraid of lawsuits, or they need their wife to sign a permission slip and watch the procedure so the doctors can't get sued by her later.

Because of this oddity, any fair story on the phenomena described should include something about a rise in women pushing for/supporting vasectomies. Or shilling for specific doctors who don't require wife approval for the procedure.

This just makes it sound like it's all on the men.
 
I think generally speaking any "man" who gets the snip we didn't need in the gene pool anyway.

Most guys who get them are already at or above replacement rate. The large family mom groups are full of mothers-of-six (or 12!) whose husbands are getting snipped because an additional pregnancy would be dangerous to their health.

The urologist in my family won't do them to a man without kids. This phenomenon of soy men getting snipped before fatherhood is new and bizarre.

A woman I know who seemed like a very normal liberal person without any far-out ideas, upon hearing the Dobbs ruling, had a very serious talk with her teenage son about getting a vasectomy at age 18. She's divorced from the dad and some part of me wonders if this is about getting back at him, ending his line. This kind of self-hatred and desire for the destruction of a bloodline is very fucked up.

Also re: wife permission for vasectomies, Florida is full of clinics that have done thousands and advertise it as being so pain/swelling-free that you can feign an illness for a day while your family goes to Disney World, get the snip secretly, and come back to your hotel room with no one the wiser. Anywhere from Jacksonville to Miami will have clinics doing it for under $600, very few questions asked.
 
It's not the exact point of the article, but what's unreasonable about banning abortion past 15 weeks? That's plenty of time to decide if you want to get rid of the kid. Also, the further along a woman is, the riskier abortions become.
Because you have less time for the propaganda machine to work and thus less money to make from aborting and selling the results
 
You know what?

I'm going to call bullshit on this glorified blogger. The decision on Roe vs Wade is only a week old. There is literally no way she could know that there is a spike in a certain procedure. The AMA only collects information on a monthly basis so what, she went and called every clinic in the US and asked?

Fuck this blogger, she made this shit up, probably months ago and just waited for the decision to drop so she could hop onto the hate bandwagon and get her clicks.

These fake journalists are going to be the death of us I swear.
 
A woman I know who seemed like a very normal liberal person without any far-out ideas, upon hearing the Dobbs ruling, had a very serious talk with her teenage son about getting a vasectomy at age 18. She's divorced from the dad and some part of me wonders if this is about getting back at him, ending his line. This kind of self-hatred and desire for the destruction of a bloodline is very fucked up.
Did she have any other kids to bet on, or is she ending her own bloodline just to ruin her ex's?

Also re: wife permission for vasectomies, Florida is full of clinics that have done thousands and advertise it as being so pain/swelling-free that you can feign an illness for a day while your family goes to Disney World, get the snip secretly, and come back to your hotel room with no one the wiser. Anywhere from Jacksonville to Miami will have clinics doing it for under $600, very few questions asked.
I would have given you an :informative: for this if I weren't so busy going :lunacy: at the woman above.

Also maybe a thunkful pondering disney/groomer stuff and if this selects for certain people.and another thunkful about how it's appearently so much easier for a man to sneak off to Florida with wife and kids in tow than it is for a woman to similarly go to another state for an abortion.
 
It's not the exact point of the article, but what's unreasonable about banning abortion past 15 weeks? That's plenty of time to decide if you want to get rid of the kid. Also, the further along a woman is, the riskier abortions become.
It isn't. In fact, a rule like that exists all over europe, even in countries that are more historically left-wing than america.
America had one of the most extremist abortion laws in the world with allowing unlimited abortion of even fully formed babies.
It is frankly baffling for Europeans where the compromise that it is legal in the first trimester kept it out of political debate for like 40 years, because it was seen as reasonable by both sides.
 
I kinda figured this would happen because right after the Supreme Court BTFO'ed whores there were all those reddit threads with like 50,000 replies from bearded soys saying they'd sterilize themselves for milady.

"it's fine, I've had a vasectomy" is the new "it's fine, I'll pull out"
 
Sadly they are reversible procedures, so barring some merciful happenstance where a majority of them experience complications down the line that prevent healthy function again, it's not like they're permanently removing the waste from the gene pool. Only temporarily jannying themselves, which I guess buys us a bit of time, maybe.
 
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