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[Gehenna]

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if that's accurate, funneling money into Ukraine to keep the election fraud machine going.

I don't think they realize just how close we are to getting CW 2.0 though. It has been simmering for a long time. People are starting to realize this is a do-or-die moment in terms of keeping America alive. We have survived a lot of shit that should have tanked us. But if we don't purge the Marxist takeover of our system soon it very well could be game over.

The cost of the election fraud machine is far, far greater than the -total- sent to ukraine. The small kickbacks would be so minuscule as to be worthless.

 

[XYZpdq]

The cost of the election fraud machine is far, far greater than the -total- sent to ukraine. The small kickbacks would be so minuscule as to be worthless.

it's gonna be so dank that day you decide to commit suicide and spill all the tea before jumping off a bridge in a duffel bag and shooting yourself in the back of the head repeatedly
edit- not meant in a mean way, just like, you know, the fate of all soldiers

 

[Spirelord]

Remember every billion USD he gives them a not small percentage comes right back to the DC cabal in the form of kickbacks and bribes.

Oh, christ, I just realized, this may literally be him refueling the left's coffers via embezzling US Foreign Aid in front of everyone. In prep for 2024.

Just a preemptive reminder to the thread to archive everything. We won't be saving lives, greater goods are dumb and this place isn't a personal army after all. In spite of that I think we'd rather have some kind of proof that a thing happened rather than have nothing to reference when it comes to citing shit or remembering the events later, also so we can at least laugh if this shithole country burns down into the third world by looking at what the 'fact checkers' trot out.

Not saying a steal's guaranteed, let alone in the works- just a precaution because they won't like anything staying up if it does happen and screenshots get passed around. And it's good in general; you never know when the subject will deleted, be it taken down by the website, a third party claim, or if the poster goes full DFE.

More on the thread now, do you think Biden's doing this Ukraine forever war because his dementia-addled brain is mixing 'Middle East' and 'Eastern Europe' together? Because I'm declaring this the start of Middle Eastern Europe (not including the migrant crisis).

 

[XYZpdq]

Just a preemptive reminder to the thread to archive everything. We won't be saving lives, greater goods are dumb and this place isn't a personal army after all. In spite of that I think we'd rather have some kind of proof that a thing happened rather than have nothing to reference when it comes to citing shit or remembering the events later, also so we can at least laugh if this shithole country burns down into the third world by looking at what the 'fact checkers' trot out.

Not saying a steal's guaranteed, let alone in the works- just a precaution because they won't like anything staying up if it does happen and screenshots get passed around. And it's good in general; you never know when the subject will deleted, be it taken down by the website, a third party claim, or if the poster goes full DFE.

More on the thread now, do you think Biden's doing this Ukraine forever war because his dementia-addled brain is mixing 'Middle East' and 'Eastern Europe' together? Because I'm declaring this the start of Middle Eastern Europe (not including the migrant crisis).

serious
archive fucking everything
even if it just means some rando can laugh at a factchecker shortly before getting sent to Room 101 it's still a victory

 

[Snekposter]

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LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO

"Two years later his legacy lingers on. We're all judges of the Donald now!"

 

[Constellationzero]

serious
archive fucking everything
even if it just means some rando can laugh at a factchecker shortly before getting sent to Room 101 it's still a victory

Hell, archive everything and print FAT STACKS on paper so you can post/leave them all over your city or town. Fact checkers have a harder time deploying that many meatspace neck and legbeards to remove all the "misinformation" you spread.

 

[LUNEKO]

"Two years later his legacy lingers on. We're all judges of the Donald now!"

DeSantis in sundowner armor: "Trump only harnessed America grievances he didn't invent them, Didja think all republican voters where all part of some big 'ol conspiracy?"

The cost of the election fraud machine is far, far greater than the -total- sent to ukraine. The small kickbacks would be so minuscule as to be worthless.

sometimes i forget that the scale of money the government spends is unconceivable, and always for the most retarded projects that always get half assed for pocketing money

 

[Gehenna]

DeSantis in sundowner armor: "Trump only harnessed America grievances he didn't invent them, Didja think all republican voters where all part of some big 'ol conspiracy?"

sometimes i forget that the scale of money the government spends is unconceivable, and always for the most retarded projects that always get half assed for pocketing money

I need to tip toe around this a bit because it relates to job stuff, but I have seen the Wisconsin numbers.

"Mobilization" across the state: Around 700 million.
Extraordinary training for Democrat pollsters: About 200 million.
Mysterious disappearing money which we have tangential evidence went to judges. beauracrats, and politicians: About 1.2 billion

So that right there, assuming -no- other costs, would be 1.9 billion. For one state. Not including any of the normal costs of the election, any of the specific race costs, or just in general any of the inherent bribery, kickbacks, or fraud within the fraud itself. That number for just one state if account is estimated ~7 billion. Cause those things I mentioned are cost multipliers.

There is a big reason that Wisconsin's electoral commissioner rather suddenly resigned.

 

[LUNEKO]

I need to tip toe around this a bit because it relates to job stuff, but I have seen the Wisconsin numbers.

"Mobilization" across the state: Around 700 million.
Extraordinary training for Democrat pollsters: About 200 million.
Mysterious disappearing money which we have tangential evidence went to judges. beauracrats, and politicians: About 1.2 billion

So that right there, assuming -no- other costs, would be 1.9 billion.

Oh god

For one state.

OH GOD

 

[Gehenna]

Oh god

OH GOD
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The fraud was a black hole for money. Frankly, Wisconsin is likely on the -low- end compared to other states. We have a fairly streamlined and efficient electoral process which would be easier and cheaper to get in. As well being a fairly purple state meaning they need to invest less to begin with.

States like Georgia or Arizona probably cost a lot more. And I am fairly sure they have been just dumping money into Texas to try to make it purple.

The total cost here was likely in the hundreds of billions. Just a bonfire of money.

 

[northstar747]

The fraud was a black hole for money. Frankly, Wisconsin is likely on the -low- end compared to other states. We have a fairly streamlined and efficient electoral process which would be easier and cheaper to get in. As well being a fairly purple state meaning they need to invest less to begin with.

States like Georgia or Arizona probably cost a lot more. And I am fairly sure they have been just dumping money into Texas to try to make it purple.

The total cost here was likely in the hundreds of billions. Just a bonfire of money.

So again where did the money come from? Was it just IOU's Dark funds from the Uniparty?

I know hildawg just drained the DNC coffers pretty hard.

Also LOL at what they got for their money...

 

[XYZpdq]

The fraud was a black hole for money. Frankly, Wisconsin is likely on the -low- end compared to other states. We have a fairly streamlined and efficient electoral process which would be easier and cheaper to get in. As well being a fairly purple state meaning they need to invest less to begin with.

States like Georgia or Arizona probably cost a lot more. And I am fairly sure they have been just dumping money into Texas to try to make it purple.

The total cost here was likely in the hundreds of billions. Just a bonfire of money.

it's not the gross corruption and wasting of gajillions of taxpayer dollars that pisses me off that gets my minecraft up so much as that they blew it and it was mostly for naught

 

[Gehenna]

So again where did the money come from? Was it just IOU's Dark funds from the Uniparty?

I know hildawg just drained the DNC coffers pretty hard.

Also LOL at what they got for their money...

Mostly IOUs, alongside tilting heavily into the coffers of every earmarked pork barrel spending and a ton of personal funds by politicians.

If it could be tapped, it was. This is why BBB was so god damned important and why it failing led to so much screeching and is why they are still trying desperately to find ways to revive it.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Mostly IOUs, alongside tilting heavily into the coffers of every earmarked pork barrel spending and a ton of personal funds by politicians.

If it could be tapped, it was. This is why BBB was so god damned important and why it failing led to so much screeching and is why they are still trying desperately to find ways to revive it.

In your opinion, what did they think was going to happen?

 

[pwnest injun]

Huh...? Congress voted for 40 billion though did they not? Or did the money just disappear (...as it often does)?

I think $16bn went to replenishing arms that we already gave Ukraine. IOW MIC kickback. It got divvied up all over. Only $7bn of the $40bn went to Ukraine as direct aide, and it will all be stolen.

 

[Ita Mori]

Welp

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Truly a win for the working class everywhere.
The rednecks in the rustbelt, the niggers in the south, and the beaners everywhere will hold celebrations nationwide on Monday.

 

[Gehenna]

In your opinion, what did they think was going to happen?

Oh, that is easy to answer and not even as an opinion.

1: Get in through fraud and promising RINOs the world and a return to RINOism.
2: Wait to go full nuts, pass the infrastructure bill to pay off the RINOs and make them complacent.
3: BBB to pay off their larger debts, set financial groundwork to set up all future election shenanigans in every state.
4: Pass election law to legalize and mandate all elements needed to repeat the electoral actions.
5: Never ever lose again.

 

[northstar747]

Oh, that is easy to answer and not even as an opinion.

1: Get in through fraud and promising RINOs the world and a return to RINOism.
2: Wait to go full nuts, pass the infrastructure bill to pay off the RINOs and make them complacent.
3: BBB to pay off their larger debts, set financial groundwork to set up all future election shenanigans in every state.
4: Pass election law to legalize and mandate all elements needed to repeat the electoral actions.
5: Never ever lose again.

uh huh, and yet there was a single flaw to their plan.

Everyone thought they would be the true puppet master?

Or was it just bad luck getting the old political capital

 

[Gehenna]

uh huh, and yet there was a single flaw to their plan.

Everyone thought they would be the true puppet master?

Or was it just bad luck getting the old political capital

Its not one thing that went wrong. The better question is what went -right-?

Trump was supposed to back down or go nuts, instead he had a firm but measured and consistent response.
They were supposed to have comfortable majorities in the House and Senate.
Their puppet was supposed to remain mostly functional.
The economy was supposed to spring back to full force once lockdowns were stopped.
No major crises were supposed to occur.

And so on.

The plan was fine conceptually, but once put into motion it was one major blow after another. The lack of political capital and fighting over who gets to be the leader are consequences of its failure, not causes.

 

[SBG]

Its not one thing that went wrong. The better question is what went -right-?

Trump was supposed to back down or go nuts, instead he had a firm but measured and consistent response.
They were supposed to have comfortable majorities in the House and Senate.
Their puppet was supposed to remain mostly functional.
The economy was supposed to spring back to full force once lockdowns were stopped.
No major crises were supposed to occur.

And so on.

The plan was fine conceptually, but once put into motion it was one major blow after another. The lack of political capital and fighting over who gets to be the leader are consequences of its failure, not causes.

The idiots seriously thought they could flip a switch and have the economy come back on.

They do seem to have strong leadership in place, but their aim was a return to a status quo that represented a worse economy. Most of their policies are about maintaining this deranged phantom status quo, like not disrupting the domestic oil industry by allowing more drilling. Which has resulted in even Macron trying to drill into Biden’s head that other countries can’t just produce more and that the US needs to pick up the slack.