General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

EenGevolg said:
Can't wait for a song about how Yumenographia got cut because it was totally connected to the Kabukicho red light district and the yakuza, or how Kronii is definitely a cult member. Source: bro trust me, my schizo dream told me
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Lemon demon loses so much money, i mean its right there! A schizo spewing conspiracy shit about virtual women is the perfect song material for that dude. With minor alterations ofc we dont want to get sued for defamation.
 
Burnt Fish said:
unless that dropoff is monumental (which let's be real it's not going to be) she can totally afford it in every way that actually tangibly matters.
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She's basically 2nd worst in terms of live views and sub growth only being above Reimu. Having visited /#/ a lot myself Feesh's main issue is that while everyone in NijiEN grew in someway due to Luxiem she herself hasn't really benefited much and is currently in this slow crawl/stagnation where she often dips below 1k CCV in regular solo streams. She's basically doing about as well as a modest indie so any sort of hit to viewership or memberships hurts her more than say Pomu or Elira.
 
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DALKurumiTokisaki said:
She's basically 2nd worst in terms of live views and sub growth only being above Reimu. Having visited /#/ a lot myself Feesh's main issue is that while everyone in NijiEN grew in someway due to Luxiem she herself hasn't really benefited much and is currently in this slow crawl/stagnation where she often dips below 1k CCV in regular solo streams. She's basically doing about as well as a modest indie so any sort of hit to viewership or memberships hurts her more than say Pomu or Elira.
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Surprised to hear that, especially since she's the group/wave designated coomerbait
 
marvlouslie said:
They don't seem to understand that it was likely management that kicked her in the ass, do they?
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In the sense due to the backlash she was getting from idiots, I can understand if management told her to reverse her decision and talk on it. Otherwise she'd have 0 reason to since Nijisanji historically doesn't give a fuck, since the livers can do what they want (within reason) without helicopter parents.
Rezza said:
Surprised to hear that, especially since she's the group/wave designated coomerbait
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I think the problem is she filtered people in the wrong way. She started leaning into the coomerbait shit more and dipping her toes into GFE so she's in a "Confused" state of audience. It's not like how Millie despite playing less games now not only maintained her general following, she actually gained for being variety/creative focused.
 
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Rezza said:
Surprised to hear that, especially since she's the group/wave designated coomerbait
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She doesn't exactly play big or riveting games. 60% of what she streams is Gacha games like Honkai, Genshin, and Arknights. Compare that to say Selen who plays Apex at a pro level, Bioshock, FEAR or Pomu whose going through all the Metal Gear games.
 
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USS IOWA said:
What good is a coomerbait if more than half of NijiEN is making coomer and risque jokes?
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And they're usually funnier than Feesh.

Finana's stagnating as far as viewership I've noticed, and she doesn't really know what the fuck to do. She's just... kinda there. She doesn't really have a personality outside of being dumb coomerbait, and she fails even at that.
 
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DALKurumiTokisaki said:
She's basically 2nd worst in terms of live views and sub growth only being above Reimu. Having visited /#/ a lot myself Feesh's main issue is that while everyone in NijiEN grew in someway due to Luxiem she herself hasn't really benefited much and is currently in this slow crawl/stagnation where she often dips below 1k CCV in regular solo streams. She's basically doing about as well as a modest indie so any sort of hit to viewership or memberships hurts her more than say Pomu or Elira.
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The graph you posted yesterday displays Finana as around/above HoloID1 and HoloID2 in terms of viewership with 50-70% less subs.

I personally think HoloID are doing perfectly fine overall, so unless this thread also wants to doompost about how Ollie averages similar viewers despite having >1m subs then it's difficult for me to believe any of this number/concernfagging is at all in good faith.

There is nothing to suggest Finana is 'stagnating' or slowing to a crawl. There is nothing to suggest Rosemi lost her paypigs for interacting with men. Stating these things as fact doesn't make them so even if most here won't contest you.
 
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Undercover Commissioner said:
Has Kronii become a christian? Or is she in a cult? Stop speculating and post proof here. And no homosexuals gossiping on /vt/ are not proof.
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I’m no expert on Kronii, but I’ve found zero evidence for the church rrat being true. I searched the usual boards and have only found speculation that she “doesn’t stream on Sunday because she goes to Church” the rest is handful of,
“she’s a good girl now, she goes to church” with nothing backing that up.

No mentions of it on Twitter or Reddit where I could see the rabid atheists being up in arms if she said that she was going to church.

I’m happy to be wrong, but give me a video clip of her saying it and not just hearsay.
 
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Scuttle said:
The graph you posted yesterday displays Finana as around/above HoloID1 and HoloID2 in terms of viewership with 50-70% less subs.

I personally think HoloID are doing perfectly fine overall, so unless this thread also wants to doompost about how Ollie averages similar viewers despite having >1m subs then it's difficult for me to believe any of this number/concernfagging is at all in good faith.

There is nothing to suggest Finana is 'stagnating' or slowing to a crawl. There is nothing to suggest Rosemi lost her paypigs for interacting with men. Stating these things as fact doesn't make them so even if most here won't contest you.
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Dude, there's a huge difference between Hololive Indonesia and Nijisanji  English, no matter how you try to spin it. The sheer difference of audience size of the two languages actually makes feesh's numbers worse with your comparison
 
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Rezza said:
Dude, there's a huge difference between Hololive Indonesia and Nijisanji  English, no matter how you try to spin it. The sheer difference of audience size of the two languages actually makes feesh's numbers worse with your comparison
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Thank you for proving my point that none of this is in good faith.

'It's different for us because...' just isn't good enough. Zeta was at 300K immediately after debut, so trying to split hairs on who the intended audience is means nothing when all branches are attracting people from unintended demographics. ID3 had bigger debuts than any NijiEN wave.

Raw numbers don't lie. If you believe one is fine then you have to believe the other is too. I choose to believe that HoloID are all successful relative to all V-Tubers and therefore Finana is too.

Surely we can see eye to eye on the fact that arguing over how far down the Top 1% someone is, is a complete waste of time?

Edit: I guess not *sigh*
 
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Here's something as a break from the retarded fish. Expanded to a top 100, since you start seeing groups, Vtubers, and anomalies that you never really hear anyone talk about in the West.

Top 100 Vtuber SCs (a.k.a haha my team number more gooder you fucking faggot; Streamlabs not included) - 06.2022
  1. Hyakumantenbara Salome [$114,251] - Nijisanji
  2. Hakui Koyori [$91,412] - Hololive
  3. Vox Akuma [$82,186] - Nijisanji EN
  4. Kazama Iroha [$81,537] - Hololive
  5. Sakamata Chloe [$80,590] - Hololive
  6. Ike Eveland [$77,775] - Nijisanji EN
  7. Takane Lui [$62,225] - Hololive
  8. Kson [$57,953] - Indie
  9. Ookami Mio [$56,734] - Hololive
  10. Tsunomaki Watame [$52,642] - Hololive
  11. Gawr Gura [$47,578] - Hololive
  12. Kaida Haru [$47,316] - Nijisanji
  13. Suo Sango [$45,779] - Nijisanji
  14. Luca Kaneshiro [$42,878] - Nijisanji EN
  15. Mysta Rias [$42,567] - Nijisanji EN
  16. Suzuki Masaru [$40,558] - Nijisanji
  17. La+ Darkness [$38,722] - Hololive
  18. Shirogane Noel [$37,901] - Hololive
  19. Yukihana Lamy [$36,989] - Hololive
  20. Usada Pekora [$35,668] - Hololive
  21. Alban Knox [$35,067] - Nijisanji EN
  22. Lauren Iroas [$30,698] - Nijisanji
  23. Shiranui Flare [$30,498] - Hololive
  24. Amane Kanata [$25,088] - Hololive
  25. Yugo Asuma [$23,766] - Nijisanji EN
  26. Ouro Kronii [$22,677] - Hololive EN
  27. Murasaki Shion [$22,669] - Hololive
  28. Ryushen [$22,656] - Nijisanji
  29. Oma Kirara [$22,514] - NoriPro
  30. Kakeru Yumeoi [$22,280] - Nijisanji
  31. Sonny Brisko [$22,256] - Nijisanji EN
  32. Mori Calliope [$21,896] - Hololive EN
  33. Shu Yamino [$21,852] - Nijisanji EN
  34. Kuzuha [$21,393] - Nijisanji
  35. Fulgur Ovid [$20,001] - Nijisanji EN
  36. Hanabatake Chaika [$19,130] - Nijisanji
  37. Takanashi Kiara [$19,108] - Hololive EN
  38. Momosuzu Nene [$17,674] - Hololive
  39. Shirakami Fubuki [$17,336] - Hololive
  40. Nekozeno Shin [$17,189] - NoriPro
  41. Pomu Rainpuff [$17,049] - Nijisanji EN
  42. Aki Rosenthal [$17,015] - Hololive
  43. Nakiri Ayame [$16,773] - Hololive
    1. 43.5. Funky [$16,145] - Indie? [streamer that sometimes uses a Vtuber model, half-counts I guess?]
  44. Iori Matsunaga [$16,106] - RIOT MUSIC [music label owned by Brave Group]
  45. Ceres Fauna [$16,014] - Hololive EN
  46. Nekomata Okayu [$15,527] - Hololive
  47. Kanae [$15,391] - Nijisanji
  48. Hoshimachi Suisei [$15,352] - Hololive
  49. Uki Violeta [$15,233] - Nijisanji EN
  50. Namahoshi-chan [$14,806] - Shinsogumi [JP group led by DeepWebUnderground]
  51. Kurumi Noah [$14,787] - VSPO
  52. Hakos Baelz [$14,487] - Hololive EN
  53. Fuji Aoi [$14,264] - Smarprise [signed with Universal Music Japan]
  54. Nora Shitagai [$14,176] - Shinsogumi
  55. Oozora Subaru [$14,033] - Hololive
  56. Hizaki Gamma [$13,966] - Holostars
  57. Fuwa Minato [$13,537] - Nijisanji
  58. Sakura Miko [$13,523] - Hololive
  59. Colonel Chocola(?) [$13,292] - Indie...? (calls himself a Vtuber on his Twitter so I'm counting him, but streams seem to primarily be him silently playing a fuckton of pachislot games)
  60. Tokoyami Towa [$13,148] - Hololive
  61. Astel Leda [$12,544] - Holostars
  62. Natsume Eri [$12,217] - Hitsuhima [has illustrated other Vtubers]
  63. Hayato Kagami [$11,864] - Nijisanji
  64. Selen Tatsuki [$11,833] - Nijisanji EN
  65. Tsukumo Sana [$11,719] - Hololive EN
  66. Tomari Mari [$11,403] - Indie, formerly upd8
  67. Amamiya Kokoro [$11,401] - Nijisanji
  68. Himemori Luna [$11,217] - Hololive
  69. Naruse Naru [$11,037] - Nijisanji
  70. Yuki Chihiro [$10,939] - Nijisanji
  71. Saki Ashizawa [$10,763] - RIOT MUSIC
  72. Vestia Zeta [$10,761] - Hololive ID
  73. Gundou Mirei [$10,739] - Nijisanji
  74. Inari Iroha [$10,729] - NoriPro
  75. Tomeru Ikinone [$10,652] - Shinsogumi
  76. IRyS [$10,596] - Hololive EN
  77. Elira Pendora [$10,568] - Nijisanji EN
  78. Kaela Kovalskia [$10,542] - Hololive ID
  79. Kurumizawa Momo [$10,497] - NoriPro
  80. Komaru Kurikoma [$10,419] - Aogiri High School [owned by Brave Group]
  81. Akai Haato/Haachama [$10,216] - Hololive
  82. Mashiro Oshiro [$10,214] - Aogiri High School
  83. Debidebi Debiru [10,207] - Nijisanji
  84. Finana Ryugu [$9,725] - Nijisanji EN
  85. Dola [$9,669] - Nijisanji
  86. Hoshino Supika [$9,586] - Masquerade
  87. Shishiro Botan [$9,455] - Hololive
  88. Amelia Watson [$9,441] - Hololive EN
  89. Rurufu Hizuki [$9,397] - Snack Nili
  90. Kagura Mea [$9,369] - Indie
  91. Kohanai Sii [$9,368] - Indie? [can't find info]
  92. Kenmochi Toya [$9,322] - Nijisanji
  93. Mikan-sensei [$9,311] - Indie? [likewise, seems focused on vocal practice and singing]
  94. Hanabusa Lisa [$9,215] - VSPO
  95. Yang Nari [$9,160] - Nijisanji [KR]
  96. Mika Melatika [$8,981] - Nijisanji [ID]
  97. Houshou Marine [$8,761] - Hololive
  98. Umise Yotsuha [$8,642] - Nijisanji
  99. Nijo Hirame [$8,516] - Indie? [also likewise, ASMR Vtuber]
  100. Yashiro [$8,475] - Nijisanji
Source: Playboard
 
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Scuttle said:
The graph you posted yesterday displays Finana as around/above HoloID1 and HoloID2 in terms of viewership with 50-70% less subs.

I personally think HoloID are doing perfectly fine overall, so unless this thread also wants to doompost about how Ollie averages similar viewers despite having >1m subs then it's difficult for me to believe any of this number/concernfagging is at all in good faith.

There is nothing to suggest Finana is 'stagnating' or slowing to a crawl. There is nothing to suggest Rosemi lost her paypigs for interacting with men. Stating these things as fact doesn't make them so even if most here won't contest you.
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Yeah I think Scuttle's right. Finana may seem to be slowest subs growth in her gen but she still get around a 1k new subs everyday and she seems to be doing alright view wise.
 
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