Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[Crunchy Leaf]

Horrifying story about a woman killed by her autistic son: https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2009/12/kent_state_professor_trudy_ste.html

Why do severe autists do this? I know they don’t understand what’s going on, but I don’t understand why they’re so angry.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Why do severe autists do this? I know they don’t understand what’s going on, but I don’t understand why they’re so angry.

There are 4 main reasons behaviors occur:

Pain Attenuation can also be a reason in non-verbal people who cannot vocalize their issue. They may self harm in response to pain or sensory feelings that are aversive to them.

 

[Jeep1971]

Christian Buchanan is hardly a potato. Yes, he's legally blind and has a limb reduction defect (one hand is deformed) and gets most of his nourishment through a tube because of his severe cleft palate, but he has normal intelligence and in fact goes to regular school with an aide and an IEP. He's not totally blind, either; he has enough retinal tissue to be able to distinguish light and dark, and he's even able to distinguish some bright colors under the right conditions.

And I realize this is not what this thread is supposed to be about.

Those eyes are just hard to look at very long. Each one has a little brown core looking spot. What is THAT? It's just very unsettling and grotesque.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

Worked with a 18 y/o 6'0", 200+lb violent tard once. We had one gal in the section that was actually trained for his kind of case. He swung, kicked, and bit her several times. Reasons he got mad: asked to get up from floor, told to put shoes on, told he couldn't watch Barney for the session (he got Barney for reinforcement), told to say hello, and his mother asked him to help carry something. All these things he could do and he was trained to do without throwing a fit and having to be restrained, but there's not always a "reason" a tard kid will lose their shit and try to murder the entire family. Group homes don't always help and aren't always staffed with great people (another story another time).
There is an unfortunate reality with dealing with severally disabled kids growing up and it's not all "watch this and calm down" nor is it "throw money at it and fix the problem".

Well I didn't before, but I do now. This may explain some of my hip issues ...
I think it's more impressive for adults to do it cause you can literally break a kids leg in 6 places and it will heal ok, but stub your toe as adult? Might as well fucking die.

Same. I've known one exactly like that, and the poor single mom was deluded into thinking she was capable of taking care of him. He was one move away from breaking her bones (and probably had).

It needs to be easier to ship them off to more capable places, and also to admit that the parents really aren't able to take care of em.

There are 4 main reasons behaviors occur:
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Pain Attenuation can also be a reason in non-verbal people who cannot vocalize their issue. They may self harm in response to pain or sensory feelings that are aversive to them.

Sorry for double post, can't figure out how to add a quote.

The one missing from here is medical issues. Kids with tooth aches might bite their caregivers. They may urinate in inappropriate places if they have a UTI.

And slight PL, the autistic kid I babysit does the same thing as that Trudy's son, getting angry after being hurt. It's definitely catatonic-like, in that it's completely unconscious behaviour.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Sorry for double post, can't figure out how to add a quote.

The one missing from here is medical issues. Kids with tooth aches might bite their caregivers. They may urinate in inappropriate places if they have a UTI.

Yep they shove that all under pain attenuation. The 4 main categories though are ones we can fully assess the reasons of a behavior for via funactional analysises.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

Yep they shove that all under pain attenuation. The 4 main categories though are ones we can fully assess the reasons of a behavior for via funactional analysises.

Fair enough. I've found ppl always say any behaviour is 'manipulation' aka for attention, for an object, avoidance, etc, but they skip the actual analysis part. Medical issues can be such an easy fix that people miss (hence why so many ppl say their spud improved from no gluten or lactose or whatever, they were fixing undiagnosed issues or just feeding the kid better).

 

[GenociderSyo]

Fair enough. I've found ppl always say any behaviour is 'manipulation' aka for attention, for an object, avoidance, etc, but they skip the actual analysis part. Medical issues can be such an easy fix that people miss (hence why so many ppl say their spud improved from no gluten or lactose or whatever, they were fixing undiagnosed issues or just feeding the kid better).

A lot just lump it into escape since escape techincally states ANY aversive stimulus. But I've always felt its imporant to single out if its medical.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

I read through that article on Trudy and Sky Walker.

I feel a common thread among this and other cases (cough Chris-chan cough) is the delusion that their kid is less severe than they really are. Sure, you want to presume competence, but there comes a point when you just have to call the spud a spud.

Trudy was completely deluded (and the family STILL is) in thinking that Sky was intelligent. No. He has a low IQ. He'd never progress past basic hygiene skills and menial tasks. He barely even understood 'do this, get this' or 'do this, lose this'.

I have to point the finger at early intervention. Often, there's this idea that they can 'fix the autism', teach the kid to be normal. Plenty of kids benefit because they have the capacity to learn, but those with IQs in the gutter will struggle to learn basic hygiene. The parents are strung along and plenty never lose the belief that their spud isnt that spuddy.

 

[Sketch]

Did Archie actually try to kill himself or was it a TikTok challenge?

 

[Android raptor]

I remember one story where his parents were asked about cosmetic procedures, and they said they

If you're referring to Christian, the boy with the open eye sockets, like I said earlier, he goes to the neighborhood school and has an aide trained to deal with his blindness, and an IEP. Maybe he does wear shades at school or when they go out in public, IDK.

That or people in his local area just know who he is, and kids at his school have had the situation explained to them in a kid friendly way. I'd imagine most kids can get used to kids w/facial deformormities after being around them long enough.

Not so much with potatoes or literal corpses

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

Did Archie actually try to kill himself or was it a TikTok challenge?

We're starting to suspect murder actually.

 

[Sketch]

We're starting to suspect murder actually.

By his creepy ass mom? She gives me bad vibes forever

 

[Onewhohides]

We're starting to suspect murder actually.

Something is definitely rotten with how she's acting... Reminds me of Chris Watts.

 

[Android raptor]

Horrifying story about a woman killed by her autistic son: https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2009/12/kent_state_professor_trudy_ste.html

Why do severe autists do this? I know they don’t understand what’s going on, but I don’t understand why they’re so angry.

Because their parents are abusing them, 9/10.

Watch this one, skeletons might start falling out of closests just like with Hollie, or Gypsy Rose for that matter.

 

[buoyverificationfuel]

Because their parents are abusing them, 9/10.

Watch this one, skeletons might start falling out of closests just like with Hollie, or Gypsy Rose for that matter.

It's from thirteen years ago. I don't think we need to "watch this one" for skeletons.

From the article, it seems like Sky may have been stressed by the circumstances around the parents' divorce; maybe they were fighting and/or there was domestic abuse and they didn't realize he understood it? My impression was also that he was having more frequent aggressive episodes and meltdowns at school compared to at home, so if there was abuse happening maybe it was at school.
I also feel like the article might not have the best understanding of autism since they always referred to meltdowns as "tantrums."

 

[CaseyTatumm]

So Hollie has posted updated pictures of Archie:
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A home sewer "company" sent her gold metallic pants for him:
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And this was the new chaplain's service:
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Archie needs to go in peace. Any idea lbs of what the circular mark on his forehead is?

I will say it’s always sweet to see the how the nurses use plush toys to prop up tubing and whatnot…

 

[Choroid Plexus]

Did Archie actually try to kill himself or was it a TikTok challenge?

Try? He successfully killed himself.

 

[Garbage.Theory]

Maybe his mom saw them going to the NICU and she complained that Archie didn't have one? Otherwise I got nothing.

To be fair the patterns are all over the internet. Anyone with basic crochet skills could knock one out in a day or two so it’s unlikely swiped from some NICU baby. Probably made by someone who read about how it helps recovery in preemies and missed the “in preemies” part of it.

 

[Carnavoyeur]

Horrifying story about a woman killed by her autistic son: https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2009/12/kent_state_professor_trudy_ste.html

Why do severe autists do this? I know they don’t understand what’s going on, but I don’t understand why they’re so angry.

Horrifying is right, that's one of the saddest stories I've read all year. The mother was obviously traumatized by having to work at a home for tards as a teenager and refused to let her only child to be taken away like one of them. I could armchair psychologist sperg on this one all day.

 

[copacetic91]

Fair enough. I've found ppl always say any behaviour is 'manipulation' aka for attention, for an object, avoidance, etc, but they skip the actual analysis part. Medical issues can be such an easy fix that people miss (hence why so many ppl say their spud improved from no gluten or lactose or whatever, they were fixing undiagnosed issues or just feeding the kid better).

These days, I have more often heard “behavior is communication.” We understand now that so much of communication is done non-verbally, even amongst those of us who can speak and write. It’s so much more productive and humane to try to understand what the person is trying to tell us with a behavior rather than dismiss it as manipulation because, as you point out, things like pain, discomfort, hunger, exhaustion, etc. can otherwise be missed.

Looking at behavior as communication is not to excuse such things as violent behavior or other maladaptive stuff. Rather, it’s a starting point to understand the need or want that is being expressed and try to find ways to meet the need or to teach other ways of communicating their wants. It can also help the caregiver out. Say you realize that little Johnny gets bitey when he is constipated. Better start mixing Miralax into his morning juice.