Artcow WogglebugLoveProductions / Cynthia Hanson / Cherie Anne Hapney - One Womanchild's Fruitless Quest to Make Her Cockroach Husbando a Household Name

[WogglebugLover]

Besides there's more of us than there are Wogglebug fans and since majority rules we say they're gay.

I don't actually believe that at all. And even if suppose that were the case, it won't be for always. I'm getting more fans all the time and with the new improved versions of the three movies and the plushies on the way I should certainly get more.

And also, I am still the founder and owner of my Wogglebug franchise. And as such I tell YOU what the sexuality of the characters are, and you DON'T tell ME. So, if I insist they are NOT gay then that is exactly what the case is. If it were otherwise I wouldn't say the opposite. Case closed!

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

And also, I am still the founder and owner of my Wogglebug franchise.

Are you aware that Wogglebug is public domain and any of us can make our own Woggleverse? And probably enjoy more success with this project than you?

 

[JustAJollyMawile]

Speaking of patrons, one by the name of Zachary Snowdon Smith (don't know if that is his real name) stopped pledging $1 on my Patreon. However, I have come to see he has to be a Kiwi because of strong supporting evidence of it from comments he leaves on my YouTube videos. I have no idea which one of you he could be on here though.

sis that zachary guy could be anyone and u wouldnt know
hell i could secretly be zachary

 

[Picklechu]

Oh, okay. Well, can you give me some good descriptions of how exactly they should be drawn in future artwork? That way I can pass it on to the artist. I was considering commissioning a large mural of Wogglebug and Frogman as heroes in the Trojan War, but I don't want to do it if there's a chance their appearances might come out wrong.

Wogglechilles and Pratrogmanclus.

 

[RembrandtCourage]

And also, I am still the founder and owner of my Wogglebug franchise. And as such I tell YOU what the sexuality of the characters are, and you DON'T tell ME. So, if I insist they are NOT gay then that is exactly what the case is. If it were otherwise I wouldn't say the opposite. Case closed!

You have never once in your life 'owned' the wogglebug or any wizard of oz intellectual property. You have as much authority as a 7 year old child when it comes to what the wogglebug may or may not be because he belongs to the public domain, not you.

Therefore I, a random on the internet, do declare the wogglebug and the frogman to be a happily married gay couple. I would like to remind the court that their power couple name is 'The Frogglebug' and this is now canon because I said so.

 

[Andrew Neiman]

I tell YOU what the sexuality of the characters are

Are there any gay characters at all in the entire series?

Obviously Wogglebug and Frogman are ten billion percent straight, but I mean like the other characters,

 

[drain]

And also, I am still the founder and owner of my Wogglebug franchise.

Yeah Cynthia, we can see it. No one else is bonkers enough to create a whole fucking franchise for an obscure character.

 

[Spastic Cologne]

Are you aware that Wogglebug is public domain and any of us can make our own Woggleverse? And probably enjoy more success with this project than you?

If I were her I'd be far more concerned with a major studio coming out with a hundred million dollar rebooted tent pole Oz franchise.
Some Tim Burton Hot Topic edgy nightmare with the ultimate goal of an extended Oz universe complete with spin offs and merchandise.
I mean by probability they can't all be massive flops like Oz The Great And Powerful. Right?
Say it's a monstrous hit with audiences and smashes the box office with a record return, firmly cementing this new Oz and its characters
(Wogbug included) into the public's collective consciousness and the 21st century zeitgeist and beyond.
But portrays Buggerbug in a less than flattering light, some sort of Iago type character from Aladdin or a smug Prince Charming from Shrek, a potential secondary villain that audiences love to hate like a Draco Malfoy, think Joffrey Baratheon in a Jar Jar skin...
I personally see him as Mandark from Dexter's Lab, voice and all...
Who knows, they may even be a little clever and write him as the main villain secretly pulling the strings à la The Mule in Foundation.
Or Baum forbid they could just write him as being a somewhat pompous but overall lovable openly gay comic relief played by Steven Fry...
Which would you prefer @WogglebugLover? And no, it's between villain or clown, your depiction of him isn't in the hypothetical...

And I also ALREADY told you before that it had NOTHING to do with any of you on here that I was able to find and correct the errors in animation in my three movies.

I mean you say that...



Need I sift through all 441 pages of your board to find more examples that both you, I and everyone on here very well already know exist?
Really?

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

But portrays Buggerbug in a less than flattering light, some sort of Iago type character from Aladdin or a smug Prince Charming from Shrek, a potential secondary villain that audiences love to hate like a Draco Malfoy, think Joffrey Baratheon in a Jar Jar skin...
I personally see him as Mandark from Dexter's Lab, voice and all...
Who knows, they may even be a little clever and write him as the main villain secretly pulling the strings à la The Mule in Foundation.
Or Baum forbid they could just write him as being a somewhat pompous but overall lovable openly gay comic relief played by Steven Fry...

I genuinely love both ideas. Or even combining them: he's a lovable gay comic relief that surprisingly appears in convenient places only to be revealed as the real mastermind in the post-credit sequence. Burton likes his characters morally gray so he can be a kind of misguided villain (like Wilson in "Utopia") who believes he's doing it all for the greater good and is the only one to save Oz thanks to his superior intellect.
Or it can be a story similar to "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead" - same tale about the Wizard but seen from the perspective of a few minor characters, including Woggy.

 

[The Last Stand]

First of all, Captain Jack Sparrow is not going to be in the new movie. He never was. I've just replaced the avatar that looked like him with a very different one. The pirates' names in the film are Captain Candy, Captain Hoff, Captain Laduke, Captain Curtis, and Captain Archie. The reason why they are all Captains is in the film in a way that makes sense for a children's fantasy film. And I don't have a trailer just yet as I haven't started filming it yet, but I plan to start today and be done by early to mid-July as I promised. And the script is only 86 pages and there are two sequences I have to omit from it in the film due to them being too complicated to film (my co-writer wrote those). I'll try to at least put up a teaser trailer after I film the first 30 minutes or so. This is the final movie cover:

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I originally put the avatar that looked like Jack Sparrow in the poster because it just came with the other four pirates in a pack. And because he had a parrot on his shoulder and that was what originally gave me the idea for a pirate with a parrot with a problem in the film. I've replaced both the pirate and parrot avatar with different ones. And I've already received 35 preorders for it which is at least nearly all of the repeat customers I was expecting. A few may just be preferring to wait until the release day.

Anyone who is hoping and or expecting ANYTHING gay at all in the movie is going to be profoundly disappointed.

Now if you will excuse me, I have a movie to finish filming.

Are you that broke from this Wogglebug crap that you have to wear clothing from the 1900s?

 

[Miss Misery]

I miss @Deadpool. He'd love this shit.

 

[Spastic Cologne]

I genuinely love both ideas. Or even combining them: he's a lovable gay comic relief that surprisingly appears in convenient places only to be revealed as the real mastermind in the post-credit sequence. Burton likes his characters morally gray so he can be a kind of misguided villain (like Wilson in "Utopia") who believes he's doing it all for the greater good and is the only one to save Oz thanks to his superior intellect.
Or it can be a story similar to "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead" - same tale about the Wizard but seen from the perspective of a few minor characters, including Woggy.

Lets be honest, fucking hacks will probably butcher the hell out of it and make him something akin to these insufferable cunts...

Mind you Snarf and Orko are probably more in line with what Baum later envision the roach to be than anything Cherie has fanficked out on all those cold and lonely nights, more likable too...
That's the point right @WogglebugLover?
Instead of being a "funny" bumbling scatterbrain side character it's the complete yet no less extreme opposite end of the spectrum in that he is completely flawless never wrong and painfully bland, the quintessential Mary Sue with a messiah complex.
Just as self righteous and conceited as L. Frank's bug though...
But hey, apart from Cherie, and us to a far lesser extent, who really gives a fuck.

 

[WogglebugLover]

I've now done what I had intended to do originally, and I have changed all the instances in the third movie of when it looked even remotely like Wogglebug and Frogman might be gay because they are not. I have changed the hug when they meet to a handshake. ANd they are no longer actually clasping hands during the song sequence, either. As you can see here:

You can call me homophobic all you want to. I just don't care.

Their friendship is like Damon and Pythias from Greek mythology, friends like brothers.

 

[Spastic Cologne]

I've now done what I had intended to do originally, and I have changed all the instances in the third movie of when it looked even remotely like Wogglebug and Frogman might be gay because they are not. I have changed the hug when they meet to a handshake. ANd they are no longer actually clasping hands during the song sequence, either. As you can see here:

If someone could please dub this in it's entirety over Cherie's movies that would be fabulous.

NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!

@WogglebugLover If you still can't see the undeniably blatant homosexual overtones between Frogglebug then you never will.

The song itself with them mincing along to it lends immediately to gay stereotyping even if no physical contact is made.
Hell the dynamic between the three of them screams male same sex couple and their daughter.

Just two dads and their child taking a merry stroll, If you can't see it you are either blind, in denial or an idiot.
And that's just one small sequence in a movie that if I didn't know any better I would have sworn was made by someone in the LGBTQ community.
Seriously.

You can call me homophobic all you want to. I just don't care.

You're homophobic.

Their friendship is like Damon and Pythias from Greek mythology, friends like brothers.

You're also an idiot..

Homosexuality in ancient Greece - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

May just be the worst possible example you could have used outside of Sappho or Liberace and Scott Thorson.

It also really doesn't help your floundering argument that The Wizzard of Oz is arguably the property most
synonymous with the gay community, outside of ancient Greece...

https://www.deemichel.info/the-oz-gay-connection.html

And thus by extension the land of Genoma...

Trust me when I tell you that this is genuinely one of the few times that you are not being trolled on or off this site.
Whether intentionally or not you have made two very gay characters in a series of very gay movies.
It is what it is and what it is is very very gay...

How you managed to unwittingly do this is as confounding as it is hysterically funny and it's all 100% totally on you, not the Farms not the trolls
but Cherie Anne Hapney...
It ain't our fault if you are just too blind, dishonest or dumb to see what is so obvious to everyone else.
And yes, if we can see it so too can your other customers, you just better hope that they aren't nearly as homophobic as you are...

 

[Puddleduck]

Someone please dub this in it's entirety over Cherie's movies.
NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!

I'd forgotten how similar Cynthia's cadence is to Chris...

Is Frogman's left arm broken or something?

 

[WogglebugLover]

In light of what @Spastic Cologne pointed out I decided to just remove the entire song sequence between Wogglebug and Frogman and Sylvie from both the trailer and the movie. I just don't want my audience of anyone thinking they are gay.

Because I really want in the second to last of the movies to have a real and true love story between Wogglebug and the Beetle Princess and not the Wogglebug and the Frogman. I confess I originally had written the Beetle Princess and Wogglebug love story as a fanfiction about him originally being from Oz when he goes to find her in the Insect Kingdom. The story can be very easily transferred into the Genoma movie series with some editing and modifications made to it by me and my co-writer. And I will be using the 3D model of the Beetle Princess I have shown. And if need be, I'll just have a modeler make minor modifications to her.

It's not that I'm homophobic and it's also not that I don't care at all about the LGBTQ community. I just do NOT want to change my visions for these characters and story.

The Wogglebug and Frogman are not a gay couple and never will be as certainly as Sylvie is not their adopted child. She already has adopted parents in her world, and she will grow up with them in her world. Though she and Woggie will become heroes for both Genoma and her world and solve the mystery of the links between them in the movie just before the Beetle Princess movie. I think Sylvie is a superior heroine to Dorothy because of these things. Dorothy according to the books moved to Oz and away from the real world which was then cut off from ours, and she became a princess and never even grew up. She's no proper role model for children unlike Sylvie is.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

Their friendship is like Damon and Pythias from Greek mythology, friends like brothers.

I never expected you to be so... cultured. Shame it's not reflected in your writing.

 

[Afinepickle]

In light of what @Spastic Cologne pointed out I decided to just remove the entire song sequence between Wogglebug and Frogman and Sylvie from both the trailer and the movie.

You keep saying you don't care what us Kiwis think or what we say but the fact that you removed an entire song/dance sequence based on a Kiwi calling it gay says otherwise.

So which is it? Do you not care at all what we have to say or do you crave our input?

 

[WogglebugLover]

You keep saying you don't care what us Kiwis think or what we say but the fact that you removed an entire song/dance sequence based on a Kiwi calling it gay says otherwise.

So which is it? Do you not care at all what we have to say or do you crave our input?

I just care about what my audience outside of you will think. I don't want what I make coming across as gay to them, either.

 

[Spastic Cologne]

In light of what @Spastic Cologne pointed out I decided to just remove the entire song sequence between Wogglebug and Frogman and Sylvie from both the trailer and the movie. I just don't want my audience of anyone thinking they are gay.

And I also ALREADY told you before that it had NOTHING to do with any of you on here that I was able to find and correct the errors in animation in my three movies.

You were saying...

Cynthia, Cherie, Wogglebuglover, whatever you call yourself, as I said that's just one very small sequence in a movie that is in
itself hardcoded as being gay with an equally gay cast of characters.
The Troll Wizards immediately spring to mind, I mean two flamboyantly dressed "single" men living together, now ladies and gentlemen watch as Cherie Anne Hapney retcons them into brothers...
You would need to scrap everything and go back to the drawing board, completely re writing everything, re animating it whilst also entirely reconceptualising your main characters and all their interactions with every other character from the ground up for there to be any chance that people who watch it don't immediately and justifiably think either "Wow, this is a really progressive kids movie! Cool!'
or "Wow, this is a really progressive kids movie! Not cool!"...

It would be far easier and a metric ton less work and time for you to adapt and embrace these "new" ideas into your already LGBTQ positive story rather than fruitlessly trying to de-gay them scene by scene line by line character by character, and for you even longer...
It would also show you in an exponentially more positive light, as an artist and as a person.
But you won't because that would take creativity and talent, prove me wrong...

Even then there is no guarantee that heaps of people still won't read Frogglebug as being attracted to one another.
If there is one thing the internet has shown me it's that people will ship literally anyone and anything, race, franchise or species...
And neither you nor I have any control over that whatsoever for better or worse, nor should anyone really.
Much In the same way no one has control over who buys your products, it would be a fool's errand and you the fool to think you have that power.
You can however get butt hurt and come on here complaining and pissing in the wind, that's what the farms is for...

I confess I originally had written the Beetle Princess and Wogglebug love story as a fanfiction about him originally being from Oz when he goes to find her in the Insect Kingdom.

Your entire "franchise" is a literal fanfiction @WogglebugLover!
Did you forget or something?

It's not that I'm homophobic and it's also not that I don't care at all about the LGBTQ community. I just do NOT want to change my visions for these characters and story.

Why? You change just about everything else, Christ you made and re made the same 3 damn movies 6 times now...

I think Sylvie is a superior heroine to Dorothy because of these things. Dorothy according to the books moved to Oz and away from the real world which was then cut off from ours, and she became a princess and never even grew up. She's no proper role model for children unlike Sylvie is.

Holy fuck! Way to completely and totally miss the entire point of that article.
Almost as bad as when you missed all the overt homosexuality whilst writing, animating and peddling your own movies...
You're welcome...