US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[northstar747]

There is an old storytelling cliche that goes if you go back to kill baby Hitler, the universe instantly auto-corrects and a random orphan male infant gets inserted into the Hitler family without the parents ever knowing that their original biological child died.

you like that meme where hilter keeps dodging time traveling jews and decides he needs to do something about them?

So what can the admin do to correct their problems? it seems like the far left are vocal and whiny.

Just go drill baby drill.

 

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Didn't Arizona in 2016 and 2018 have a fuck ton of 3 AM ballot dumps out of people toyota corollas etc. and nothing happened. The kind of actions that would have made everyone call out a third world country in Africa and South America.

Though I can't find any news stories regarding those ballot dumps. Either gone or the SEO is fucked.

I sincerely hope that the days of people being apathetic over that kind of shit is over.

Yes, Razorfist was quite clear in that they tested the nationwide effort in Arizona the years building up to 2020. He was calling the alarm bells for that years before the big rigging.

Makes me wonder what bullshit we'll see tested in 2022.

We had evidence in 2020. You gather all this evidence, and then what? The executive branch is responsible for prosecution, and they unroll these schemes in states where they control the executive.

You are quite right. But pushing back requires political will (and, for no-political-solutions, just will). And raw evidence, evidence they can't just paper over, is what generates that will.

I absolutely think they'll try and rig shit again in 2022, 2024. In the exact same way. The local level idiots are dumb enough to try it again since it worked in 2020. This time they won't have the systemic support they need, and the judges won't be bribed and threatened into silence. That evidence becomes important then.

 

[Snekposter]

If the parties were reversed, do you think Democrats would even tolerate someone in their leadership doing what Liz Cheney is doing?

The difference is the Republicans are (as far as I know) unwilling to engage in literal murder to keep people following the party line. That and Liz Cheney has completely shed all but the merest pretensions of being a Republican to openly suck Pelosi's clit. The GOP takes her money and her positions away to force her to play ball? Pelosi has the hookup instead, if Liz could find the time to stop the cunnilingus to kiss the ring. What can the GOP do to someone like that that won't risk a visit from the FBI? I don't even think its possible to expel people from parties in the USA. Leadership yes, but not membership.

Maybe the 25% would be dead people.

Worse. Wine aunts. At least the dead have an excuse as to why they're completely brainless.

 

[MirrorNoir]

Why the fuck does Alex Jones get the HBO 4K Dolby Vision treatment but I can't get a 180p camera feed of Epstein's bitch's court case?

Because Alex Jones told Obama to go fuck himself and called him and his evil out by name on a daily basis during his Presidency and the left really really wants a victory lap after those useful idiots that lost kids at Sandy Hook won their bullshit lawsuits against Jones.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

It matters because the only reason why they were able to get away with the fraud in 2020 is because the vote margins were close. If this keeps up, the margins will not be close and will not be in the democrats favor.

If they can cheat under Trump's nose then they'll easily get away with it under the big guy. The government has a long history of foreign interference, it should be a piece of cake at home.

 

[Gehenna]

If they can cheat under Trump's nose then they'll easily get away with it under the big guy. The government has a long history of foreign interference, it should be a piece of cake at home.

Easy counter: How do you know we do it abroad? In order to evidence this, you need to cite the long list of attempts, and failures, for the U.S. to do this abroad.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Easy counter: How do you know we do it abroad? In order to evidence this, you need to cite the long list of attempts, and failures, for the U.S. to do this abroad.

Yeah it's Wikipedia but who cares.

Edit: Wrong link. I was lazier than usual:

One study indicated that the country intervening in most foreign elections is the United States with 81 interventions, followed by Russia (including the former Soviet Union) with 36 interventions from 1946 to 2000—an average of once in every nine competitive elections.

 

[Gehenna]

Yeah it's Wikipedia but who cares.

Edit: Wrong link. I was lazier than usual:

That link is interesting but also misleading. Considering it counts intervention as things including "The leader vocally supported a candidate".

Addition: Reading through, the U.S. also has a terrible track record. Very little actual interference through fraud. Mostly "Get out the vote" and propaganda attempts. Enough to nudge close races over the edge, but also usually very short lived ones. Very little applicable here though.

 

[FunPosting101]

If they can cheat under Trump's nose then they'll easily get away with it under the big guy. The government has a long history of foreign interference, it should be a piece of cake at home.

Oh they'll try and cheat, it's just that it becomes too obvious if a given candidate wins with 1000% of the vote or some such shit. Especially now, when the GOP is increasingly unwilling to go along with the dem's bullshit. Also, a lot of the election "fortification" measures that were taken in the run up to 2020 have been done away with.

 

[The Big O]

Oh they'll try and cheat, it's just that it becomes too obvious if a given candidate wins with 1000% of the vote or some such shit. Especially now, when the GOP is increasingly unwilling to go along with the dem's bullshit. Also, a lot of the election "fortification" measures that were taken in the run up to 2020 have been done away with.

I'm more curious as to what would happen in the following hypothetical situation: say they were to cheat a candidate/candidates into office in such a way as described, where the margin is way too big to allow for plausible deniability. If the fraud is caught in the act beyond a shadow of a doubt for everyone to see, would the Democrats/Biden administration just be like "lol fuck it, they won and we know you peons will not stop us unless you want us to sick the Feds upon you" and just have the candidate be installed anyway?

There'd be a first time for everything, and that would include dropping all pretense of fair elections because they really don't want to let go of power.

 

[FunPosting101]

I'm more curious as to what would happen in the following hypothetical situation: say they were to cheat a candidate/candidates into office in such a way as described, where the margin is way too big to allow for plausible deniability. If the fraud is caught in the act beyond a shadow of a doubt for everyone to see, would the Democrats/Biden administration just be like "lol fuck it, they won and we know you peons will not stop us unless you want us to sick the Feds upon you" and just have the candidate be installed anyway?

There'd be a first time for everything, and that would include dropping all pretense of fair elections because they really don't want to let go of power.

The response to that sort of action in our current economic conditions and hyper-partisan political climate would be actual insurrection(s) and a highly likely Civil War 2, Electric Boogaloo. I simply HAD to say that; and no, I am not sorry for saying it.

 

[chiobu]

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Civiqs is probably asscrap as far as polling's concerned, but Biden's on track for mid-20s when the midterms come, if this keeps up.

Holy shit that amount of growing discontent over time, Trump in comparison was at least consistent with the numbers

 

[The Big O]

The response to that sort of action in our current economic conditions and hyper-partisan political climate would be actual insurrection(s) and a highly likely Civil War 2, Electric Boogaloo. I simply HAD to say that; and no, I am not sorry for saying it.

Why sugar-coat it? You're sadly right that it would likely light the proverbial match by that point. That, of course, is contingent on the Democrats if they do cheat sloppily enough to get caught and refuse to admit defeat.

 

[FunPosting101]

Why sugar-coat it? You're sadly right that it would likely light the proverbial match by that point. That, of course, is contingenton on the Democrats if they do cheat sloppily enough to get caught and refuse to admit defeat.

I wasn't sugar-coating anything, I was just making a dumb joke. That said; I personally think the Dems are playing with fire if they try any serious shenanigans this time around, especially if/when the price of food and fuel keeps going up.

 

[The Big O]

I wasn't sugar-coating anything, I was just making a dumb joke.

No-no, I'm saying you needn't apologize for telling like it is and not throwing a "Minecraft" in there. Because let's face it: the joke could very well turn out to be reality.

That said; I personally think the Dems are playing with fire if they try any serious shenanigans this time around, especially if/when the price of food and fuel keeps going up.

I would like it if they admit defeat in future elections because people have gotten sick enough of their shit. But these days I feel like they're brazen enough that they'll leave kicking and screaming.

 

[quaawaa]

Holy shit that amount of growing discontent over time, Trump in comparison was at least consistent with the numbers

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Trump's disapproval rating was mostly people saying "I don't like mean tweets" and it had no effect on his electability. People maintained the same opinions that they had of him from before the 2016 election. If the pollsters had instead asked "do you approve or disapprove of the job Trump is doing?", he would have had a way higher approval rating. Biden's rating is all policy-based though since normal people don't know about his personality because he is kept hidden away.

 

[Gehenna]

Trump's disapproval rating was mostly people saying "I don't like mean tweets" and it had no effect on his electability. People maintained the same opinions that they had of him from before the 2016 election. If the pollsters had instead asked "do you approve or disapprove of the job Trump is doing?", he would have had a way higher approval rating. Biden's rating is all policy-based though since normal people don't know about his personality because he is kept hidden away.

The job question usually got bogged down by TDS, but when we broke it down by individual policy he received high ranks nearly across the board.

 

[Aunt Marge]

you like that meme where hilter keeps dodging time traveling jews and decides he needs to do something about them?

So what can the admin do to correct their problems? it seems like the far left are vocal and whiny.

Just go drill baby drill.

 

[Extreme Crusader]

Fuck American pride!

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

Holy shit that amount of growing discontent over time, Trump in comparison was at least consistent with the numbers

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Those approval numbers a good considering the media constantly shitting on Trump, distorting the truth 24/7, and driving the idea home if you agree with anything Trump does or says makes you a Nazi and threatened to get you fired for doing so.