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Was this shit article discussed? It's from a few days ago.
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So much dumb blather. Attempting to act like he's the hot new "actress" inundated with scripts, but trannies in the acting arts do their own thing too which is great. (Pro-tip: if you're an actress in any demand at all you don't have the time to put on your own dog-and-pony show in the barn.)

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Game changer! In the land of Shakespeare, Abby Normal here just might upend theatre as we know it. A good chance millions will flock to see Olly's thespianism on this streaming service you've never heard of. Who doesn't love watching long plays by narcissists on their PCs/phones?

It's funny, The Guardian has long had a hateful jihad against the word "actress"- a word I think connotes a certain nobility, glamour and feminine mystique, for centuries, that's unique and different from "actor"- but someone like our plump friend with the big kink clings to word actress for dear life. Good luck, Dear Abby!


(*Dear Abby was the byword agony-aunt advice columnist in the US 20th century and I apologize for the bad unfunny, it's late , I'm so tired.)
Did Nebula really "commission" this play? I get more the impression they "work" with content creators on YouTube and might pay them a fee for producing material + get a cut or something... he makes it sound like a grand production.
 
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That’s a rough 29.

Be interesting to see how “starring” his starring role in Django is. He did mention not getting any lines for weeks and weeks which uh…. But what do I know. To assume makes an ass of u and me, Ol lie.
He also makes out that he is at auditions non stop, which is funny cos he ain’t getting them.
Lol about trying to crowbar troonery into everything then it getting chopped the fuck out.
 
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That’s a rough 29.

Be interesting to see how “starring” his starring role in Django is. He did mention not getting any lines for weeks and weeks which uh…. But what do I know. To assume makes an ass of u and me, Ol lie.
He also makes out that he is at auditions non stop, which is funny cos he ain’t getting them.
Lol about trying to crowbar troonery into everything then it getting chopped the fuck out.
That face reads 100% masculine, just with a lot of makeup on. All the tricks he uses to film his videos don't work when someone else is taking a photo. You're not going to get any roles other than as token tranny, Olly.
 
Lol about trying to crowbar troonery into everything then it getting chopped the fuck out.
Lol at him attributing the chop to them being too "timid." After all the time they spent to be confident they were doing good representation, they realized it wasn't serving the story and audiences don't want another See, This Is What Good Representation Looks Like in their faces.
 
Was this shit article discussed? It's from a few days ago.
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So much dumb blather. Attempting to act like he's the hot new "actress" inundated with scripts, but trannies in the acting arts do their own thing too which is great. (Pro-tip: if you're an actress in any demand at all you don't have the time to put on your own dog-and-pony show in the barn.)

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Game changer! In the land of Shakespeare, Abby Normal here just might upend theatre as we know it. A good chance millions will flock to see Olly's thespianism on this streaming service you've never heard of. Who doesn't love watching long plays by narcissists on their PCs/phones?

It's funny, The Guardian has long had a hateful jihad against the word "actress"- a word I think connotes a certain nobility, glamour and feminine mystique, for centuries, that's unique and different from "actor"- but someone like our plump friend with the big kink clings to word actress for dear life. Good luck, Dear Abby!


(*Dear Abby was the byword agony-aunt advice columnist in the US 20th century and I apologize for the bad unfunny, it's late , I'm so tired.)
"A streaming service commissioning a play is kind of new territory".

Come on, Ollie, I know you watched "Fleabag for Four Pounds" on Amazon Prime during lockdown like the rest of us did.
 
Newfag here. Enjoyed reading through this thread for the past few months. I think it's telling that the best thing about Ollie's thread has nothing to do with his actual content and more to do with the discussions that people have as a reaction to his numerous public blunders in his pursuit of "the big time".
I usually have a lot of hatred for internet narcissists, but there's something about Ollie's constant attempts failures to establish himself as a big deal and a real dainty feminine woman that just makes me laugh instead. I watch his first speech with that white dress hanging off of his linebacker shoulders, screaming "there is power in this!!!", and just can't bring myself to hate the guy. I got the same feeling seeing his stream where he was gorging on food right after a video where he claims to be terrified of eating on camera, or the number of times he called his upcoming video "his best work yet". Hell look at how he makes releasing his play on Nebula out to be "new territory". He's just a ball of laughs.


Now "Alice" on the other hand:
This person is just a degenerate who seems to enjoy mocking the groups he claims to be a part of. Can't speak for troons or women, but from an Islamic perspective, it's horrifying watching a grown man use what is at best a nifty way to cover his ugly hairline and at worst a disgusting fetish as justification to LARP as a muslim. He clearly has zero understanding nor appreciation of what it takes to be a muslim woman. I would be surprised if he even knew what the Kalimat Shahadah is, and it's just 1 of 5 things that make one a muslim. He's awful.
The third guy is just boring. There's 5 of him at every gym I've ever been to. No idea how he got popular.
 
Newfag here. Enjoyed reading through this thread for the past few months. I think it's telling that the best thing about Ollie's thread has nothing to do with his actual content and more to do with the discussions that people have as a reaction to his numerous public blunders in his pursuit of "the big time".
I usually have a lot of hatred for internet narcissists, but there's something about Ollie's constant attempts failures to establish himself as a big deal and a real dainty feminine woman that just makes me laugh instead. I watch his first speech with that white dress hanging off of his linebacker shoulders, screaming "there is power in this!!!", and just can't bring myself to hate the guy. I got the same feeling seeing his stream where he was gorging on food right after a video where he claims to be terrified of eating on camera, or the number of times he called his upcoming video "his best work yet". Hell look at how he makes releasing his play on Nebula out to be "new territory". He's just a ball of laughs.


Now "Alice" on the other hand:
This person is just a degenerate who seems to enjoy mocking the groups he claims to be a part of. Can't speak for troons or women, but from an Islamic perspective, it's horrifying watching a grown man use what is at best a nifty way to cover his ugly hairline and at worst a disgusting fetish as justification to LARP as a muslim. He clearly has zero understanding nor appreciation of what it takes to be a muslim woman. I would be surprised if he even knew what the Kalimat Shahadah is, and it's just 1 of 5 things that make one a muslim. He's awful.
The third guy is just boring. There's 5 of him at every gym I've ever been to. No idea how he got popular.
Welcome! Great first post
 
Welcome! Great first post
Much appreciated. Glad that I signed up at the best point in his arc: The beginning of the downward spiral. YouTube views are going down, Patreon subs are finally lower than before his 2nd coming out and likely will keep dropping, mutiny in his subreddit, about to release a godawful play with himself as the star, still can't get that illusive blue checkmark that Twitter is just giving away at this point. I wonder how desperate he will get when it hits him that he will probably never be a successful actor and YouTube really is it for him.
 
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Jfc. Because it is nothing?
This is so painfully false. You are calling Lees a CHEF for mixing cream, a bit of tinned fruit, mixed nuts and a biscuit stuck in the top?
It tastes nice !
But let’s not pretend it takes any skill, and that he thinks it does.


He’s so weird about pretending to be super cultured and then just wiping that away when it serves to blow smoke up soemoens arse with acting (ofc, badly) impressed by them, for his own natural benefit.

Couldn’t but bare to let it go unnoticed that he’s hobbnobbing with one of his faves, too.

Wonder what drove Lees to it this time: I assume it’s a Loose end one night, invite round the desperate weirdo who’s always texting u, out of total boredom & morbid fascination, then dish to your friends about it for the next few days, starting with a flurry of texts as soon as Ol Lie is out of the door— possibly, beforehand …… kinda sitch?

Next.


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Lmao indeed.

See the vast cavernous crop.
He couldn’t help but megaphone this- but pointedly, and obviously, missing the bit where the poster says it’s because the new episodes /new host aren’t as good loll

Fuck me, 200 odd replies.
This image should be the other way around….
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I love this image of the guy collapsed on the floor, overwhelmed, choosing to disassociate and become a different person to get away from it all like an opiate addict.

I know the intended interpretation is more charitable but this reads as much as a cry for help as your average TIF artwork.
 
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That’s a rough 29.

Be interesting to see how “starring” his starring role in Django is. He did mention not getting any lines for weeks and weeks which uh…. But what do I know. To assume makes an ass of u and me, Ol lie.
He also makes out that he is at auditions non stop, which is funny cos he ain’t getting them.
Lol about trying to crowbar troonery into everything then it getting chopped the fuck out.

The ironic part is that he kind of looks like JK Rowling.
 
Couldn’t but bare to let it go unnoticed that he’s hobbnobbing with one of his faves, too. Wonder what drove Lees to it this time: I assume it’s a Lose end one night, invite this weirdo who is always texting round out of total boredom / morbid fascination then dish to your friends about it for the next few days, starting with a flurry of tests as soon as Ol Lie is out the door, kind of sitch?
I was wondering why Paris Lees deigned to hangout with Ollie when Paris clearly found him a bit weird - from that National Student Pride interview:
Paris: Obviously it's only recently that you've... crossed over and joined us, shall we say.

Ollie: Having been taking notes on the sidelines for a long time, I was like "right, I think I've got everything I need!"

Paris: And I feel so terrible because you'd actually reached out to me on Twitter before you did your sort of-

Ollie: I was just going to ask if you knew a stylist (feigned titter)

Paris: No seriously I would have loved to have helped you but yknow I do get inboxes from people and I can't keep up - I'm not trying to say I'm like Madonna or something but it's like I do, like, can't respond to all the messages, but if it's a sister I try and respond, but I didn't know you were a sister at that point...

Paris did go on to say that Ollie pulled off a stylish transition with aplomb etc etc but I found that little exchange quite telling because Paris was sort of having to address the elephant in the room.

I wondered if I'd maybe misjudged Paris's interactions with Ollie and they were actually friends, but then I reasoned maybe Paris was merely recognising the use of having a business associate who's grifting like a mfer and is getting some (modest) traction - she was a child prostitute and went to prison for robbery, she's self made in a way Ollie never will be so I'd fully buy she's willing to put aside personal disdain to get ahead in the game (can't say I blame her).

However your explanation is so incredibly funny that I'm deliberately choosing to believe it. The best thing is Ollie is so narcissistic (and so much of a straight bloke) that he's pretty oblivious to that sort of game and is incapable of feeling shame so will absolutely blunder into humiliating himself like that. The virgin AGP vs the Chad HSTS once again.
 
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Jfc. Because it is nothing?
This is so painfully false. You are calling Lees a CHEF for mixing cream, a bit of tinned fruit, mixed nuts and a biscuit stuck in the top?
It tastes nice !
But let’s not pretend it takes any skill, and that he thinks it does.


He’s so weird about pretending to be super cultured and then just wiping that away when it serves to blow smoke up soemoens arse with acting (ofc, badly) impressed by them, for his own natural benefit.

Couldn’t but bare to let it go unnoticed that he’s hobbnobbing with one of his faves, too. Wonder what drove Lees to it this time: I assume it’s a Lose end one night, invite this weirdo who is always texting round out of total boredom / morbid fascination then dish to your friends about it for the next few days, starting with a flurry of tests as soon as Ol Lie is out the door, kind of sitch?

Next.
Two guys pretending to be women. Having dinner. Alone.

Sounds kinda gay.

Do you think they keep up the charade when it's just the two of them? Do they still put on the voice? Try to keep up the 'feminine mannerisms'? Try to convince the other that they really are True and Honest?

I'd love to be a fly on the wall.
 
Much appreciated. Glad that I signed up at the best point in his arc: The beginning of the downward spiral. YouTube views are going down, Patreon subs are finally lower than before his 2nd coming out and likely will keep dropping, mutiny in his subreddit, about to release a godawful play with himself as the star, still can't get that illusive blue checkmark that Twitter is just giving away at this point. I wonder how desperate he will get when it hits him that he will probably never be a successful actor and YouTube really is it for him.
Bit late, but welcome.

Just a disclaimer of sort though: If you've been following Ollie's shenanigans for this long, then you're probably aware that any 'downfall', however iminet it may seem at the time, it's likely to take an extremely attenuated trajectory. As has been the case with any downward trend in Ollie's 'career' he seem to have, consciously or unconsciously, shielded himself from any potential sources of negative feedback, perceived or otherwise.

Unlike most lolcows, the unraveling of Ollie's life probably wont take the form of a normal trainwreck, but would be most similar to the collapse of charismatic entrepreneur who has been defrauding his faithful investors the whole time. Already, Ollie seems to be responding to the increasingly diminishing returns of his trooning by making ever-increasingly grandiose claims and pledges, almost as to build a 'levy' against and increasingly rising tide of reality.

When the levy breaks, Ollie will be the last person to realise.
 
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Two guys pretending to be women. Having dinner. Alone.

Sounds kinda gay.

Do you think they keep up the charade when it's just the two of them? Do they still put on the voice? Try to keep up the 'feminine mannerisms'? Try to convince the other that they really are True and Honest?

I'd love to be a fly on the wall.
I can totally see Olly floating the idea in a "just joking but not really but of course I was kidding unless you think so too" kinda way, only to see Paris' shocked expression and never bring it up again. It'd go something like this:

Olly: "So tell me babes. Do you ever just get tired of keeping up this image? You know, drop the voice and just dude out when you're alone?"

Paris: Horrified, "what?!!"

Olly:"Exactly babes. Totally preposterous. So silly those haters on reddit are. Can you imagine? I mean...............can you imagine?"

Paris: Still horrified, "No"

Olly: "I KNOW babes. Same thing I said when I saw people say that on reddit and Twitter........It would be hilarious to do that just to spite them though huh?"

Paris: "Uhhhh again no"

Olly: "Preaching to the choir luv. Completely ludicrous. By the way this is a gorgeous dessert. Mind if I tweet about your amazing cooking skills?"

Inner Olly: "Bollocks I thought he was cool. At least I still have Alice."
Bit late, but welcome.

Just a disclaimer of sort though: If you've been following Ollie's shenanigans for this long, then you're probably aware that any 'downfall', however iminet it may seem at the time, it's likely to take an extremely attenuated trajectory. As has been the case with any downward trend in Ollie's 'career' he seem to have, consciously or unconsciously, shielded himself from any potential sources of negative feedback, perceived or otherwise.

Unlike most lolcows, the unraveling of Ollie's life probably wont take the form of a normal trainwreck, but would be most similar to the collapse of charismatic entrepreneur who has been defrauding his faithful investors the whole time. Already, Ollie seems to be responding to the increasingly diminishing returns of his trooning by making ever-increasingly grandiose claims and pledges, almost as to build a 'levy' against and increasingly rising tide of reality.

When the levy has breaks, Ollie will be the last person to realise.
True, I don't expect him to go full trainwreck and I agree his downfall will probably be gradual. He doesn't seem to be the type to go full psycho like a Joy Sparkles or Creepshow Art. I am interested in how low he gets before it hits him though. Are we gonna have an Olly that's just tweeting 25 times daily and hosting daily streams to 15 viewers while pretending he's got some biiiiig projects in the works? Will he give up and run back to Mom and Dad before that point? Or is he gonna reinvent himself in some way (Maybe a detransition arc or a Nikocado-style "why the trans community is toxic" arc) as a reset button?
 
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