"Mad at the Internet" - a/k/a My Psychotherapy Sessions

Been watching some of the latest MATIs and I get the impression that Nerl has acquired a gf who's either pushing him left on various things, or for whose sake he is pushing himself left on various things
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Or, now stay with me here, Josh has a) grown the fuck up, b) has an actual brain capable of observing reality he's seen all over the planet, and/or c) learned the hard way that the incel rhetoric is hot garbage that only serves to hold you back like one of many crabs in a bucket. Look at you with your little pinchy pincers trying to drag his ass right back on in. I'm sure it's helped to influence his observation-based opinions that the BP is easily the most un-shit-up section of the Farms. He's got a distilled concentration of internet spergery by way of his posters and what we post about all across the Farms. If that type of social sampling isn't enough to teach you a thing or two about what each different demographic of person is like at their most intolerable, I don't know what is.

Null's explained it before, half the population on the planet are females and if your movement refuses to accept them, let alone be willing to respect them, then it's a doomed movement.
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There's a major fact that most groups on the political spectrum seem keen on memory holing. If only white women were allowed to vote in the 2020 presidential election, Trump would be POTUS again as we speak. That's even after all of the fake votes that inflated Biden's numbers, meaning the majority of us who voted Trump are even higher in numbers than what's been reported. Really makes you think. Is that really the demographical statistic that anyone would want to chase into the arms of their opposition out of sheer impotent virgin rage? Lunacy.
 
But women at present have no reason to respect men. The state provides then with financial security and they don't need physical security
Let's be honest, especially the newer generations of men have also become a lot less respectable. The pedophile incels who hang out on 4chan for some reason think they deserve a 10/10 untouched virgin tradwife who cooks and cleans for them, while they themselves still live with their parents, don't have a job, are fat, slobby and unwashed and spend their days watching anime and porn. A woman who has had 1 or 2 boyfriends in high school is a lot less depraved and degenerate than a man who has the "Million Coom Stare" from consuming 6 million hours of pornography since he was 9 years old. These dudes are into some degenerate shit and probably couldn't even get hard for a 3D woman. How do they expect any woman of value would ever put up with that and not be entirely disgusted? They have nothing to offer to a woman. They don't even have their own personality because they all read the same propaganda all day and repeat it back.
 
Let's be honest, especially the newer generations of men have also become a lot less respectable. The pedophile incels who hang out on 4chan for some reason think they deserve a 10/10 untouched virgin tradwife who cooks and cleans for them, while they themselves still live with their parents, don't have a job, are fat, slobby and unwashed and spend their days watching anime and porn. A woman who has had 1 or 2 boyfriends in high school is a lot less depraved and degenerate than a man who has the "Million Coom Stare" from consuming 6 million hours of pornography since he was 9 years old. These dudes are into some degenerate shit and probably couldn't even get hard for a 3D woman. How do they expect any woman of value would ever put up with that and not be entirely disgusted? They have nothing to offer to a woman. They don't even have their own personality because they all read the same propaganda all day and repeat it back.
"A woman who has had 1 or 2 boyfriends in high school"

That would be nice if women didn't go to college, but they do. If a woman has been primed her whole life to think "you are strong and independent, you don't need a man and you don't need children, you need a career!" then why would she even bother putting herself out there?

In grad school I was the only male in my cohort and there were five women alongside me, and the senior cohort above us was entirely female. The women in my cohort and the women above us were all unmarried and had no children except the one woman who was 42 and had come back to school well after she was married.

That's 10 or 12 women who were all in the prime of their life, 24-26, unwed, no kids, no interest in either. Taking on debt and putting pressure on themselves to establish a career and begin paying that debt back as quickly as possible.
 
"A woman who has had 1 or 2 boyfriends in high school"

That would be nice if women didn't go to college, but they do. If a woman has been primed her whole life to think "you are strong and independent, you don't need a man and you don't need children, you need a career!" then why would she even bother putting herself out there?

In grad school I was the only male in my cohort and there were five women alongside me, and the senior cohort above us was entirely female. The women in my cohort and the women above us were all unmarried and had no children except the one woman who was 42 and had come back to school well after she was married.

That's 10 or 12 women who were all in the prime of their life, 24-26, unwed, no kids, no interest in either. Taking on debt and putting pressure on themselves to establish a career and begin paying that debt back as quickly as possible.
True, just as thinking "fuck all women, they only want to get dicked by Tyrone" is retarded, thinking "All modern men are coomer pedophiles" is also. We don't have to be racist 4chan pedophile strawpeople to recognize that women do hold some important social powers while not being required to handle some important social responsibilites in modern society anymore. And at the same time we can recognize that men have some issues of their own that they need to fix. "What can you offer me?" must go both ways.
"I'm a racist jobless obese pedophile" and "I'm a college debt-anchored expert in gender studies and trans activism with severe BPD" are both bad offers.
 
"A woman who has had 1 or 2 boyfriends in high school"

That would be nice if women didn't go to college, but they do. If a woman has been primed her whole life to think "you are strong and independent, you don't need a man and you don't need children, you need a career!" then why would she even bother putting herself out there?

In grad school I was the only male in my cohort and there were five women alongside me, and the senior cohort above us was entirely female. The women in my cohort and the women above us were all unmarried and had no children except the one woman who was 42 and had come back to school well after she was married.

That's 10 or 12 women who were all in the prime of their life, 24-26, unwed, no kids, no interest in either. Taking on debt and putting pressure on themselves to establish a career and begin paying that debt back as quickly as possible.
My comment was just about the men who complain about these exact things you are complaining about right now not being exactly prime dating-material either. But thanks for being a good example for us, anime avatar.

I don't want to derail this discussion to debate "what is wrong with modern women". I think both modern men and modern women have plenty of things wrong with them and I think it's unfair to only talk about "there ain't any good women out there anymore!" because a lot of men are complete undatable dogshit as well. If a man is respectable and has things to offer to a woman then he will have no issue finding a woman who wants to have his children. Men lead, women follow. If you're a porn addicted loser who can't even take regular showers then you can't expect a woman to look at you and think "Oh yeah, I want that to be the leader of my family".
 
my take is that nulls optimistic views on western women are what they are because he hasn't been around any of them for the better part of a decade

it's easy to simply dismiss peoples concerns as groyper incel talk or random internet propaganda when you're living in the philippines, serbia, ukraine, transnistria, or china, thousands of miles away from the nearest IRL western woman
 
my take is that nulls optimistic views on western women are what they are because he hasn't been around any of them for the better part of a decade

it's easy to simply dismiss peoples concerns as groyper incel talk or random internet propaganda when you're living in the philippines, serbia, ukraine, transnistria, or china, thousands of miles away from the nearest IRL western woman
None of those countries are filled with 4chan's vision of a tradwives who are foaming at the gash to jump on incel dick. Unless you find a woman with no internet access, they are all pretty westernized in current year and the ones who are trad expect a traditional man.
 
My comment was just about the men who complain about these exact things you are complaining about right now not being exactly prime dating-material either. But thanks for being a good example for us, anime avatar.

I don't want to derail this discussion to debate "what is wrong with modern women". I think both modern men and modern women have plenty of things wrong with them and I think it's unfair to only talk about "there ain't any good women out there anymore!" because a lot of men are complete undatable dogshit as well. If a man is respectable and has things to offer to a woman then he will have no issue finding a woman who wants to have his children. Men lead, women follow. If you're a porn addicted loser who can't even take regular showers then you can't expect a woman to look at you and think "Oh yeah, I want that to be the leader of my family".
Agree to disagree then.
 
My comment was just about the men who complain about these exact things you are complaining about right now not being exactly prime dating-material either. But thanks for being a good example for us, anime avatar.

I don't want to derail this discussion to debate "what is wrong with modern women". I think both modern men and modern women have plenty of things wrong with them and I think it's unfair to only talk about "there ain't any good women out there anymore!" because a lot of men are complete undatable dogshit as well. If a man is respectable and has things to offer to a woman then he will have no issue finding a woman who wants to have his children. Men lead, women follow. If you're a porn addicted loser who can't even take regular showers then you can't expect a woman to look at you and think "Oh yeah, I want that to be the leader of my family".
Men don't lead all the time. Families are partnerships.
 
Been watching some of the latest MATIs and I get the impression that Nerl has acquired a gf who's either pushing him left on various things, or for whose sake he is pushing himself left on various things

He'll get oddly butthurt at jokes if they have an anti-woman slash to them. Eg, the clip of some Fuentes-associated cow starting a tribal "Rape! Rape! Rape!" chant in a video game's voice chat when a cheerful-sounding girl makes a positive comment. Or the joke about repealing the 19th amendment. He sounds so half-hearted about it too, like, "ugh, I'd really like to be a flagrant chudde here, but my high cheekboned Eastern European trad gf would be insulted...."

Null, you must recognize that nothing makes women more attracted to a man than when he's a bold-faced CHUD. Sing your heart's misogyny loud and far! The only thing that would make your girlfriend love you more is if you were a serial killer.
Well cause he isn't joking and it isn't funny to be screaming RAPE RAPE RAPE it's just him showing his insecurity about women. You want to know what misogynist 99% of men agree with? Patrice O'neal. Why? Cause he didn't blame women for all of his fucking problems. He instead had a very simple premise, women do what you as a man let them get away with. It's their nature to push boundries and if you are weak women will own you.
A woman who has had 1 or 2 boyfriends in high school is a lot less depraved and degenerate than a man who has the "Million Coom Stare" from consuming 6 million hours of pornography since he was 9 years old.
Man, I have never tought about it that way but your right.
my take is that nulls optimistic views on western women are what they are because he hasn't been around any of them for the better part of a decade

it's easy to simply dismiss peoples concerns as groyper incel talk or random internet propaganda when you're living in the philippines, serbia, ukraine, transnistria, or china, thousands of miles away from the nearest IRL western woman
Are they all that different in those countries tough? Phillipinas are some of the biggest sluts around. Same with the slavic women. They don't really seem to give a fuck about race either aslong as you got money they will date pretty much anyone.
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People really should study European history. Where women have typically had better treatment than most of other societies. Makes sense to treat the mother of your children well for the success of your family and in the bigger picture ‘society.’

That doesn’t mean simping, men and women who have respect for themselves and each other is what is ideal. To simp implies one side doesn’t have any respect for themselves at the behest of the other. That is unbalanced and doomed.
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Not really european civilizations more like germanic ones.
 
Are they all that different in those countries tough? Phillipinas are some of the biggest sluts around. Same with the slavic women. They don't really seem to give a fuck about race either aslong as you got money they will date pretty much anyone.
true, but that's easy to rationalize/justify due to the poverty levels in these places.
"i have to do this to survive" is a pretty compelling argument, and much less blackpilling than the western version of "i want do this because it's liberating and empowering!"

like, if you're surrounded by pinay women who are whoring themselves out for pennies because they live in destitute poverty, you'll feel pity and sadness and empathy for them. but if you're surrounded by westoid women who are whoring themselves out for free because they want to own the patriarchy, you'll just feel contempt and disgust and hate for them. over time these different situations make you develop different perspectives on things.
 
Eg, the clip of some Fuentes-associated cow starting a tribal "Rape! Rape! Rape!" chant in a video game's voice chat when a cheerful-sounding girl makes a positive comment.
if you thought that was funny you might be mentally handicapped. It just unsettling and cringey to hear anybody do that.
 
That would be nice if women didn't go to college, but they do.
lol. When you inform your entire world view through pornography you assume every woman who goes to college is getting laid out every weekend by BIG BLACK BVLLS.

There's this incel meme that looks like this
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People aren't so simple. I'd wager that it's more like this.

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The observed phenomena of hypersexuality is, in my opinion, the same sex addicted low IQ pig-people fucking each other. The trend of "hypersexuality" and "attractiveness" is also ridiculous. You have very attractive people who fuck everybody and then extremely gross people like Shanny4Christ who has fucked every nigger in Canada and has a body count in the hundreds. Every single person in the IP2 clique has fucked each other and none of them are winners.

The number of people having sex is declining. The number of men and women who have zero partners by 30 is going up. The actual perception of extreme hypergamy is not as prevalent as people believe.

But this is literally the result of pornography.

>Women are whores! Look at all those college sluts!
You saw Girls Gone Wild on Comedy Central every night and now you think university is a never-ending frat party with compulsory orgy attendance.

>White women love the BBC!
You go to /pol/ every day and that's what gets spammed there which is why you believe that.


If you don't know, I lost my virginity very late. I was either 23 or 24. I was pretty ornery about it but things resolve themselves when you don't allow yourself to wallow in misery.

Arguing with incels is completely pointless. They do not want to be happy, they want to be upset. They want self-pity. The alternative is accepting responsibility for your own life and making changes and taking productive steps to improving your situation. That's not an attractive prospect when you are lazy, entitled, and retarded.

I'm certain that inceldom is just Darwinism in the 21st century. We are in an era of abundance and free, immediate access to not only pornography but food and other essentials. You don't have to work or do anything anymore. If you can get addicted to food, porn, gambling, alcohol, what have you -- you are destined to die alone. You are like bacteria in a petri dish gel of alcohol. You're being dissolved by your environment. You won't reproduce. The people that will can abstain from reward-center activities long enough to get stuff done. They inherit the earth. The rest don't.

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This picture and the accompanying statistic of "80% of women go for 20% of men" is from an analysis of a dating app (I believe Tinder). Which is not representative of real life in the slightest. The users of Tinder are 90% men and only 10% women. Because there are so few women on Tinder willing to do casual hook-ups with men, but so many men, the women can be extremely picky. The women who use Tinder are not representative of the average woman and Tinder hook-ups are not representative of normal dating.
 
>Women are whores! Look at all those college sluts!
You saw Girls Gone Wild on Comedy Central every night and now you think university is a never-ending frat party with compulsory orgy attendance.
no, i went to university myself and saw it with my own eyes.
what is a porn meme is the "public orgies and sex parties" part, reality is more about lots of casual hookups and serial dating (repeatedly trading one short term relationship for another)
 
can the conversation regarding a bunch of spergs discussing what women think go somewhere else other than the "funny internet man's show" thread?

for not doing a person stream in a while it was very good null. hope you choose to do some more in the future, and KEEP ADDING TO THE GUMROAD!
 
no, i went to university myself and saw it with my own eyes.
what is a porn meme is the "public orgies and sex parties" part, reality is more about lots of casual hookups and serial dating (repeatedly trading one short term relationship for another)
🤷 Believe what you want based on your myopic anecdotes.

I remember when I met Ron Watkins from 8ch and we went to Japan, he had a Chinese wife. She was a serious fan of the CPC and basically depended on Ron for everything. She couldn't read a map, and when she asked Tom to teach her how to read Apple Maps, Ron got angry and stopped it and explained he prefers her being uneducated. She would need him to escort her 2 blocks down the road to the grocery store because she would not be able to find it on her own despite going there every week. He liked that control.

That's what you want. It's out there. Go find it, champ.
 
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