Mass shooting reported at an Independence Day/July 4th parade in Highland Park, Illinois - Reported Casualties: 6 dead, 24 Hospitalized - Suspect in custody

[Extreme Crusader]

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LMAO

Edit: I got the answer right, niggers!

 

[Viviansectschön]

In the world where Drunk Driving Defending Pedos need a win.

I actually know the real Clownvis.

 

[Mittens]

>We can't fix mental illness.
Spoken like a true fatalist. I suppose we should just do nothing then, right?

Realist, dude. I'm not saying we stop trying, but what we're doing now isn't working. We have to acknowledge that and there's a lot of pressure not to, because it's a big money industry to just admit it's snake oil.

>Therapy with meds is as effective as acupuncture.
[Citation needed]. Seriously, that's a fucking retarded claim and I'd love to see you try to back that up with evidence.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172306/

Or just, ya know, fucking look around. How come all these people have fucking problems. If we had a solution, where are we seeing it work?

>Your solution just funnels more money to people who have already failed us.
...funding a healthcare system is bad now? lol.

Dumping a bunch of money into a shitty system isn't the best idea, look at Ukraine.

Anyfuckingways, this is tangential to the subject, but if you'd like to discuss how psychiatry is a psuedo-science scam, I'm down but this thread probably ain't the best place.

Been a fucking day since I last used proboard tags, hopefully I didn't fuck up the quotes.

 

[Gunterator]

See, stuff like this is probably what causes people to believe in conspiracy theories and how it all "glows." He already had a record and what looks like a notable incident, and yet he still passes Illinois strict background check system? I can understand incompetence, but this much incompetence?

I can believe that local cops are bad with paperwork and minor things might not get filed correctly and doesn't go into the database. Its when the people are know by the fbi and there isn't some sort of flag for when they purchase firearms or start posting wild shit online. I dont think the fbi is in on it but they are either really bad at their jobs or are choosing not to do anything so they take away the 2nd amendment and start the real gay ops.

 

[Matt Damon]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172306/
Or just, ya know, fucking look around. How come all these people have fucking problems. If we had a solution, where are we seeing it work?

Yeah, the monoamine hypothesis is fucking broken.

If there were any credible alternative model for mood disorders (or any intellectual integrity in psychiatry), it would've been abandoned years ago.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Yeah, the monoamine hypothesis is fucking broken.

If there were any credible alternative model for mood disorders (or any intellectual integrity in psychiatry), it would've been abandoned years ago.

Sometimes I get the feeling the mental health industry has just thrown up their hands and given up trying to fix these people, moving on instead to the "fuck it, everyone else must pretend along with them" phase. They just don't know how to treat these loons and are afraid of even calling them loons!. Drugs can't fix it, often prescription crazy drugs are the source of the problem (along with social media obsession).

 

[Ghjkl63]

We can't fix mental health issues but we could at least put the worst ones somewhere we dont have to deal with them. Thanks, Reagan.

 

[ks99]

Realist, dude. I'm not saying we stop trying, but what we're doing now isn't working. We have to acknowledge that and there's a lot of pressure not to, because it's a big money industry to just admit it's snake oil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172306/

Or just, ya know, fucking look around. How come all these people have fucking problems. If we had a solution, where are we seeing it work?



Dumping a bunch of money into a shitty system isn't the best idea, look at Ukraine.

Anyfuckingways, this is tangential to the subject, but if you'd like to discuss how psychiatry is a psuedo-science scam, I'm down but this thread probably ain't the best place.

Been a fucking day since I last used proboard tags, hopefully I didn't fuck up the quotes.

>what we're doing now isn't working
Clearly. My entire point is that we aren't doing enough to help people with mental health issues; that includes people who, like this faggot, are complete rejects with ego issues.
>We have to acknowledge that and there's a lot of pressure not to, because it's a big money industry to just admit it's snake oil.
You seem to think that:
A: I was advocating for pill pushing (I'm not at all; I hope you understand that therapy/counseling is far more effective than just giving someone pills and hoping that makes their life all better)
B: I was somehow advocating for continuing the status quo. (Clearly I'm not)
>Or just, ya know, fucking look around.
Look, I'm very familiar with the debate over psychiatric drugs. Yes, plenty of doctors and psychiatrists just prescribe shit like it's nothing, but the argument that it's all just a placebo effect is laughable. One of the major issues with psychiatric drugs is that you generally have to try a shitload of them (each one taking months to fully kick in) before you find one that does anything beneficial. That doesn't follow with the drugs just working as a placebo.
>How come all these people have fucking problems.
What do you mean? People who are mentally ill, or people taking psychiatric drugs?
>If we had a solution, where are we seeing it work?
I said in my post: most developed countries other than the US (read: strong nationalized healthcare system). New Zealand had similar gun laws to the US, and didn't have a mass shooting for 22 years.
>Dumping a bunch of money into a shitty system isn't the best idea
I don't know how you interpreted "nationalize the healthcare system" as just dumping money into the current system.
>look at Ukraine.
lmao, is this bait?
I dunno where else to discuss this, but I want to make it crystal clear: I never advocated for just prescribing people with meds. All I want is free healthcare for everyone, and mental health care (not just pills) for everyone that needs it. And, you know, people intervening when a family member/friend/coworker/classmate/student is showing warning signs of being the next Eric Harris.

 

[Getwhatyou]

Whats his kill rate on kids? Or does the uvalde loser currently have the highscore?

 

[Matt Damon]

Look, I'm very familiar with the debate over psychiatric drugs. Yes, plenty of doctors and psychiatrists just prescribe shit like it's nothing, but the argument that it's all just a placebo effect is laughable. One of the major issues with psychiatric drugs is that you generally have to try a shitload of them (each one taking months to fully kick in) before you find one that does anything beneficial. That doesn't follow with the drugs just working as a placebo.

So you asked for evidence, the guy gives you an extensive, highly influential meta-analysis showing the lack of efficacy of these drugs, and your response is "no dude trust me".

No one cares about what you think if all you're bringing to the discussion is reflexive gainsaying.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

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Edit: I got the answer right, niggers!
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Oh my god Ezra it's you

Kamala just spoke at the site.

Tbh I don't understand why Texas is so butthurt about guns. Like they aren't gonna get their guns taken away, they're just putting precaution in so ppl like the faggot who got caught last night don't have ability to get guns.

 

[Matt Damon]

they're just putting precaution in so ppl like the faggot who got caught last night don't have ability to get guns.

Because just look how well those draconian "precautions" worked for Highland Park!

 

[Who dat?]

Yeah, the monoamine hypothesis is fucking broken.

No, with this guy it's monoanime. The question is which anime is responsible. Currently, suspicion centers on "My Dress-Up Darling." (Though he apparently thought he was Suzumiya Haruhi, which kinda fits.)

 

[Wow another lurker]

Hasn't even been more than a day and there's already a "Before They Were Famous Criminal" [Archive], does nobody know about "Media Contagion" nowadays? or did they do it just to get easy views? Either way pretty foul how they just uploaded it as soon as they possibly could, got to strike while the iron is hot no matter what, right guys?

 

[Mittens]

>what we're doing now isn't working
Clearly. My entire point is that we aren't doing enough to help people with mental health issues;

Is there a rule here against whitespace and using quote effectively?

You seem to think that:
A: I was advocating for pill pushing (I'm not at all; I hope you understand that therapy/counseling is far more effective than just giving someone pills and hoping that makes their life all better)

You are advocating throwing money into a system that does not work.

but the argument that it's all just a placebo effect is laughable.

My new ignorant nigger friend, did you actually request a citation you didn't bother to read?

The article specifically is about anti-depressants. Major Tranquilizers, anti-psychotics sure as shit do something. Benzos, amphetamines.... Lots of stuff does stuff -- but does it help?

One of the major issues with psychiatric drugs is that you generally have to try a shitload of them (each one taking months to fully kick in) before you find one that does anything beneficial. That doesn't follow with the drugs just working as a placebo.

Takes time to build up is only a saying people use with anti-depressants. That's a red flag.

But overall the efficacy of mental health treatment is in the shitter and I don't think it's cause nobody ever thought to go to counseling to talk about their feelings.

 

[trent]

Oh look, another one with huge red flags about his mental health somehow slips through the cracks and shoots a bunch of people. And he dresses in women's clothes? That's normal now, right?

What a surprise. Who could possibly have seen this coming?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that maybe putting all of the absolute fucking lunatics in an olde timey asylum is a better option than letting them wander about in society until they commit mass murder.

Just a suggestion.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Oh look, another one with huge red flags about his mental health somehow slips through the cracks and shoots a bunch of people. And he dresses in women's clothes? That's normal now, right?

What a surprise. Who could possibly have seen this coming?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that maybe putting all of the absolute fucking lunatics in an olde timey asylum is a better option than letting them wander about in society until they commit mass murder.

Just a suggestion.

The funny thing is that the mental health people checked the faggot out and found no issues in 2019.

He loves cosplay it seems. having dressed as Waldo and now the fag from Rent. Master of disguise that one. how long til we find out who is waifu is?

Also his mother is literally genderswap version of him.

 

[Who dat?]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that maybe putting all of the absolute fucking lunatics in an olde timey asylum is a better option than letting them wander about in society until they commit mass murder.

Just a suggestion.

And a fine one it is, too, 'cept for one thing. We've seen over the last couple of years (arguably much longer) how science can be corrupted for political ends. Right now in Russia they're putting people in asylums for protesting the war. Now, imagine a regime in which Trump's people decided who is crazy. Or worse, Biden's people, when there's a better than even chance that he'll wet himself in public before his term is over.

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

Matthew please.

I am talking about, for example, how Japan does shit. The maximum allowed magazine capacity is five rounds for long guns and ten for handguns over there and for some reason it works.

Somehow they follow the laws and only use it to hunt and stuff.

at this point advocating for petty gun control measures is clearly something done in bad faith because it relies on a whole bunch of presuppositions that you can objectively prove wrong with evidence-based arguments. the places with the highest rates of gun violence are the ones where you can't get them, handguns are literally illegal in new york city. even in a private residence. it's been that way since 1908.

an entire culture was forged in the crucible of gun violence in the bronx and you're telling me that the solution to the problem is to just tell people to swap their 15 rounders out for 10's?

 

[Matt Damon]

And a fine one it is, too, 'cept for one thing. We've seen over the last couple of years (arguably much longer) how science can be corrupted for political ends. Right now in Russia they're putting people in asylums for protesting the war. Now, imagine a regime in which Trump's people decided who is crazy. Or worse, Biden's people, when there's a better than even chance that he'll wet himself in public before his term is over.

And declaring people mentally ill and sending them to "hospitals" has historically been one of the favored ways for authoritarians to get rid of political dissidents.

The Eastern Bloc countries loved that shit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry