Dr. Rachel McKinnon / Dr. Veronica Ivy / Rhys McKinnon / Rachel Veronica McKinnon / Foxy Moxy / SportIsARight - failed out of a tenured job,man who competes in womens sports, gained like 100 lbs in 2022 (page 813), comically fell off bike before a race (page 830)

[Old Fart]

As you guys probably already know, YouTube disabled being able to view dislikes on videos because corporations were getting embarrassed by people downvoting their retarded woke virtue signaling videos en masse, so they lobbied Google to do away with users being able to see how much the general public disliked a given video.

That got me wondering, how many dislikes did Troony McTroonface's Daily Show appearance get? Did most people enjoy watching his stunning and brave defense of troons shitting up women's sports? Were the comments slamming him mere outliers and the vast majority of people were supportive of his ridiculous arguments? Well, see for yourself:

How did you make this visible then?

 

[JULAY]

How did you make this visible then?

There are browser extensions for Chrome and Firefox that will let you view dislikes.

 

[David Glowie]

It's only because these trannies are so shameless and seem to have no concept of basic fairness or sportsmanship that we're even getting these explicit rulings. They've got no one else to blame but themselves on this one.

Exactly. If it had been transwomen playing men's sports, it would have been like gay and lesbian athletes all over again. A few snide remarks and jokes about locker rooms, but most people would have been pretty much OK with it. Instead they barged in, blatantly cheated, and played the victim when they weren't greeted with adulation.

 

[White Lead]

That's a good observation. For all their talk about trans folx' "losing rights" with the rulings of these sporting bodies, the fact is that for all of history, right up to current year, these rules weren't needed. It was self-regulating: what self-respecting man would want to compete in the women's competition?

It's only because these trannies are so shameless and seem to have no concept of basic fairness or sportsmanship that we're even getting these explicit rulings. They've got no one else to blame but themselves on this one.

Sorry if it was already said and I overlooked it, but something that has been grinding my gears about the sports debate for a while now.

First, the whole notion of "men should be able to compete with women if their testosterone is low/they have cut their balls off/if they have so little self-respect they'll squeeze themselves into an ill-fitting bathing suit and erase a few letters of their first name".

Women. Are NOT. defective men. I know, revolutionary idea.

Second, the gall that now they are like "look, cis women athletes, now you get problems too, because you wouldn't parrot TWAW", as if the problems (additional medical exams/paperwork, weird hormone level rules, maybe public scrutiny "oh her hips look a bit narrow, maybe she's a tranny?" weren't caused by cheating loser men putting their dirty peens in women's sports in the first place.

Thus, it made me happy when the Britbong Triathlon association put their foot down, nipping the problem with troonkid stageparents in the bud as well. Not that kids who were mutilated with Lupron and SRS would ever make it through a triathlon, but .. well, for the kids' sake nonetheless, it's a good decision.

The German DFB (Soccer Association) unfortunately is still cucked. They explicitly allow troons at least in the youth-sector, up to 18 years at least, iirc.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

I still can't believe he tries to use that as a gotcha. He really doesn't get that most people say "trans women are women" to be nice, or to fit in with their friends. I think he is so used to bullying people to get his way and "out arguing" them (aka, boring them to death until they stop responding) with his shitty "philosophy" that he has lost touch with reality.

It’s quite interesting. If you look at it from the basis of pure language, then yes, the logic is impeccable. If trans women are women, and there is a women’s sport category, then trans women should be allowed into women’s sport. But in a non-academic context, looked at in real terms, it falls apart right away.

I think Rhys just fundamentally doesn’t get how other people think. Possibly he thinks other people are just too dumb to consider the nuance of the issue, or to question him, or to just not play by the rules he wants them to.

 

[Kosher Dill]

If you look at it from the basis of pure language, then yes, the logic is impeccable.

I wonder if there's some sort of condition that causes people to be overly literal.

 

[Tanner Glass]

It’s quite interesting. If you look at it from the basis of pure language, then yes, the logic is impeccable. If trans women are women, and there is a women’s sport category, then trans women should be allowed into women’s sport. But in a non-academic context, looked at in real terms, it falls apart right away.

I think Rhys just fundamentally doesn’t get how other people think. Possibly he thinks other people are just too dumb to consider the nuance of the issue, or to question him, or to just not play by the rules he wants them to.

The logic is not impeccable, it's stacked on a flawed assumption.

"If transwomen are women" - they are not. Very few people actually believe this and there's no basis for it in logic.

 

[REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!]

The logic is not impeccable, it's stacked on a flawed assumption.

"If transwomen are women" - they are not. Very few people actually believe this and there's no basis for it in logic.

I don't think Rhys cares what anybody believes. I think he just wants his loophole to cheat and if people are upset then all the better. It just proves that he did something brave.

Half of what gets troons off is forcing their degeneracy on the unwilling world. I don't know if the goal is to convert as much as it is to dominate. In the end it all comes down to simple sexual gratification, rape on a grand scale. There is no logic behind it, just animal thrusting.

 

[Tanner Glass]

I don't think Rhys cares what anybody believes. I think he just wants his loophole to cheat and if people are upset then all the better. It just proves that he did something brave.

Half of what gets troons off is forcing their degeneracy on the unwilling world. I don't know if the goal is to convert as much as it is to dominate. In the end it all comes down to simple sexual gratification, rape on a grand scale. There is no logic behind it, just animal thrusting.

I get that, I just mean logically it's flawed. It's like saying

"Because people can magically fly, we don't need cars" - It's true, but only if people can actually magically fly. It's not logic if you base it on a wildly untrue assumption.

 

[Cycleye]

EDIT: @Cycleye, tell us which sport!

Sorry....missed your question. I can't say anymore than that it is cycling and discipline within that sport.

 

[Kernel Sanders]

There are browser extensions for Chrome and Firefox that will let you view dislikes.

Informative, thanks. Since YouTube disabled showing dislikes, I haven't been bothering to click the dislike button, so that's at least one dislike vote Rhy's video didn't get that it should have. I'm gonna go fix that right now. I wonder how many more dislikes this video didn't get for that reason?

 

[anionfarflung]

Informative, thanks. Since YouTube disabled showing dislikes, I haven't been bothering to click the dislike button, so that's at least one dislike vote Rhy's video didn't get that it should have. I'm gonna go fix that right now. I wonder how many more dislikes this video didn't get for that reason?

The extension relies on data from before the change and a Dissenter-like crowdsourcing (i.e. you only see the likes and dislikes from other users of the extension).

 

[behindyourightnow]

The logic is not impeccable, it's stacked on a flawed assumption.

"If transwomen are women" - they are not. Very few people actually believe this and there's no basis for it in logic.

It's a deductive argument that is valid (the conclusions necessarily follow from the premise) but not sound (the premise that the argument is based on is not true). A conclusion is only truly proven if the argument is both. This goes into the basics pretty well. The example from that link:

Daffy Duck is a duck.​

All ducks are mammals.
Therefore, Daffy Duck is a mammal.​

That's a valid argument (the conclusion follows from the first two statements) but it's not sound, because ducks are not mammals.

Similarly, Rhys' argument is:

Trans women are women.
Women have the right to compete in sports against other women.​

Therefore, trans women have the right to compete in sports against other women.​

Same thing: valid argument, but based on a false premise (trans women are not actually women).

Ironically (given Rhys' former profession) this is literally the type of thing they teach in intro philosophy courses.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

That's a good observation. For all their talk about trans folx' "losing rights" with the rulings of these sporting bodies, the fact is that for all of history, right up to current year, these rules weren't needed. It was self-regulating: what self-respecting man would want to compete in the women's competition?

It's only because these trannies are so shameless and seem to have no concept of basic fairness or sportsmanship that we're even getting these explicit rulings. They've got no one else to blame but themselves on this one.

Possibly the best part of this is Rhys newest asspull: you can't institute rules until it's proven that men have an advantage (by using my specific criteria that makes it impossible to study), he's already tiptoeing towards "there weren't any rules so it's the people adding rules who are the radicals changing sport" so he can establish the norm that any kind of divisional categories can simply be declared into by anyone who wishes to express their human right to sport as if these always were the norm.

What's extra funny is that Rhys and these others don't seem to realize that many of their allies don't accept their "we need to keep gender categories but allow anyone to enter who wishes" position but instead start advocating for eliminating gender divisions or any other. The allies think Rhys (and so on) is acting in good faith on principle rather than trying to exploit the rules so he can compete in a lesser division but if he "wins" it's more likely he just gets washed out completely since he couldn't compete with men.

 

[Helena Handbasket]

Has anyone ever answered him with a "no, trannies aren't women" statement? Because all I've ever seen anyone do to him is just nod along silently.

OK, he'd probably rain down a torrent of BS/screeching about TERFs in response if anyone dared to contradict His Thighness. I'm hoping that day, if it hasn't happened already in front of a camera or radio microphone, comes soon.

 

[JULAY]

Has anyone ever answered him with a "no, trannies aren't women" statement? Because all I've ever seen anyone do to him is just nod along silently.

OK, he'd probably rain down a torrent of BS/screeching about TERFs in response if anyone dared to contradict His Thighness. I'm hoping that day, if it hasn't happened already in front of a camera or radio microphone, comes soon.

The closest that I remember anyone ever came to telling Troony McTroonface that transwomen are men was a guy who interviewed him from the BBC. If you go look back at this thread from the first week of April of this year, you can find a link to the audio of the interview. The guy from the BBC made him look like an utter fool, not that that's a difficult thing to do.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1593605/bbc-nick-robinson-radio-4-today-transgender-rights-swimmer-Veronica-Ivy-vn

Canadian competitive cyclist and transgender rights activist, Dr Veronica Ivy, discussed transgender cyclist Emily Bridges' ban from competing last week on BBC's Radio 4 Today programme. Mr Robinson asked: "Dr Ivy, there are people who argue that testosterone levels are not enough, that people born with male bodies, people who go through the puberty do then have a permanent strength advantage. The way some people put it is like, you can't undo male puberty, it's like boiling an egg. You can take it out of the water, you can't unboil the egg. Do you accept that?"

Dr Ivy said: "People have claimed that but the scientific evidence does not support that."

The BBC host interjected: "Why don't we just abolish women's sport if that's the case? All people should participate in the same sport."

She added: "I think your answer to should we or should we not include trans women in women's sport is to abolish women's sport seems a bit like throwing the baby out with the bathwater."

Mr Robinson retaliated: "No, it was my answer to your suggestion that there is no permanent advantage to people who are born male who goes through puberty.

"If there's no permanent advantage, why do we have separate sports categories?"
The activist continued said: "That is a completely separate question. That is a completely separate issue to women's sport."
Mr Robinson noted: "I ask the questions and you give the answers if you wouldn't mind. There are many people who think it is related to this issue. We do have separate categories for men and women and we do it because they have different bodies."
Dr Ivy hit back: "No, those are the fallacious premise that trans women are male and men and both are false.

BBC's Nick Robinson erupted at a transgender rights activist for failing to answer his questions on fairness in sports between men and women.​

Canadian competitive cyclist and transgender rights activist, Dr Veronica Ivy, discussed transgender cyclist Emily Bridges' ban from competing last week on BBC's Radio 4 Today programme. Mr Robinson asked: "Dr Ivy, there are people who argue that testosterone levels are not enough, that people born with male bodies, people who go through the puberty do then have a permanent strength advantage. The way some people put it is like, you can't undo male puberty, it's like boiling an egg. You can take it out of the water, you can't unboil the egg. Do you accept that?"

Dr Ivy said: "People have claimed that but the scientific evidence does not support that."​

The BBC host interjected: "Why don't we just abolish women's sport if that's the case? All people should participate in the same sport."
She added: "I think your answer to should we or should we not include trans women in women's sport is to abolish women's sport seems a bit like throwing the baby out with the bathwater."
Mr Robinson retaliated: "No, it was my answer to your suggestion that there is no permanent advantage to people who are born male who goes through puberty.

BBC's Nick Robinson grilled a trans activist over the gendered sports categories (Image: BBC/CNN)

Nick Robinson questioned why the sport is separated by gender if there is no advantage (Image: BBC)
"If there's no permanent advantage, why do we have separate sports categories?"
The activist continued said: "That is a completely separate question. That is a completely separate issue to women's sport."
Mr Robinson noted: "I ask the questions and you give the answers if you wouldn't mind. There are many people who think it is related to this issue. We do have separate categories for men and women and we do it because they have different bodies."
Dr Ivy hit back: "No, those are the fallacious premise that trans women are male and men and both are false.

"The UK law says that those who go through certain steps are legally and medically regarded as female so when you're claiming 'male bodies' that's cisgender people. We're talking about trans women.
"We are not talking about whether we should have men's and women's competition."
Mr Robinson added: "What we're talking about is fairness. The international cycling governing body UCI says it's their duty to guarantee fair and meaningful competition.
"Clearly there's two meanings of fairness on the fairness of right and fairness on people who have trained all of their lives to compete face unfair competition from someone who has a "male body".



You can see that the fat idiot really thinks that his retarded argument that "legally I am female, therefore I should be competing against women" is so logically sound and unassailable that anyone who hears it will be convinced of its validity, otherwise they're a "transphobe". Luckily, this tubby asshole has been such a repugnant fuckface that even people who a few years ago were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt have had enough of his bullshit.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Has anyone ever answered him with a "no, trannies aren't women" statement? Because all I've ever seen anyone do to him is just nod along silently.

OK, he'd probably rain down a torrent of BS/screeching about TERFs in response if anyone dared to contradict His Thighness. I'm hoping that day, if it hasn't happened already in front of a camera or radio microphone, comes soon.

I mean, that's the clever thing about using this kind of argument where you build on "trans women are women" as a foundational premise and argue "logically" from there. Coming out and saying "no they're not" has been banned from all mainstream media and tech platforms. It's unspeakable in all our major educational and medical and government institutions due to relentless and powerful lobbying. If an individual defies that and comes out and says it regardless, they are aggressively targeted with the intent of absolutely ruining them.

This targeting isn't accidental: the premise MUST be upheld and any dissent MUST be crushed, because TRAs have spent decades building everything else on top of this lie.

 

[Nanashi no kiwi]

This means that Rhys peak transed 179,030 people. Congratulations Troony! You finally found something that you are good at. Peak Transing almost 200,000 people is a real accomplishment!

Now that's what you call world-class elite performance!

 

[Next Task]

Possibly he thinks other people are just too dumb to consider the nuance of the issue, or to question him

Standard troon/SJW thinking. 'MY arguments involve nuance, and need to be considered within their context. YOUR arguments are reductive and any combination of words in them can be taken to define your entire, rotten morality.'

Along with putting himself as an authority because he has one of the most bullshit philosophy doctorates that's ever existed, which is really saying something, Rhys, like all of his type, is a king of 'rules for thee'. He screams bloody murder - aka transphobia - the moment anyone dares to treat him and his words the way he treats others.

If the world followed the Golden Rule, it would be far closer to the place troons claim it is than reality.

 

[Kosher Salt]

The extension relies on data from before the change and a Dissenter-like crowdsourcing (i.e. you only see the likes and dislikes from other users of the extension).

Or the dislikes number is just fake. If every video has 4x as many dislikes as likes (within a rounding error margin), the extension is just faking it.

There's no way to get the real number of dislikes from YouTube's API. It only displays those to the creator of the video.