Debate newfag Cauchy on if trannies deserve anything

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@Cauchy. Trans people - more specifically, trans women - do not have their own spaces because they try to assimilate into ours. A man in a dress is in no way the same as a woman with ovaries, who can bear children. Who has struggled and clawed her way into society to earn the respect of her male peers despite it all.

I don't care what anyone says, men and women are vastly different and we live in a reality where we need to earn basic respect and work to be viewed as people in many parts of the world. A man cannot and will not ever comprehend that, and smearing on some lipstick and shoving his feet into high heels isn't going to change that. His mind says he's a woman, but reality told him no. As unfortunate as that is, it's really not my problem, and of all things I should not be expected to give him affirmations and headpats as if he were a fellow woman.

The same is said for FTM's. You can't expect to hold yourself to the same standard as biological men, who have more strength compared to you - physically and mentally. You cannot even comprehend what men deal with everyday, yet they go to work and put a smile on their face for the sake of their families, it is what's expected of them. You will not be given the same respect that a man in a platonic male relationship would give to a fellow man, because they all know you are female. And if those pictures posted earlier hold any truth, you definetly don't pass as one and don't deserve that respect just on basic principle.

You are visibly female and put on zero effort to back up your claims of honest to god dysphoria. Meaning, you don't actually want to be a man. You're just a confused little girl.
 
Can't reply to all the hateful seething but all your arguments pretty much boil down to "I hate transpeople because in my birdbrain they're all evil child fuckers". How many of y'all actually know a transperson IRL?
*Raises hand.* Had a good friend once with a lovely, devoted wife and a young stepson who adored him. And then he trooned the fuck out more or less out of nowhere, declaring to everybody that he was really a woman in a man's body and Jesus Christ how can such a fucking thing even be remotely possible? I tried to talk him out of it. I knew he had suffered horrendous physical and sexual abuse as a child and begged him to seek the psychiatric help he so desperately needed. But no, he took it all the way. His wife couldn't take it and divorced him, feeling betrayed because--get this--none of this tranny shit had came up once in the course of their marriage until he made his big dramatic reveal. His stepson was heartbroken.

Now my former friend is a short, dumpy, androgynous thing so glaringly obviously not a woman that people stop and stare--definitely not the pretty princess I'm sure he fantasized he would be, so there's some justice in that.

You people are mentally ill and you need help with those mental problems, not fucking affirmation. This is not the place for affirmation.
 
As fun as this thread is, I need to agree with Nool here and suggest we step back from this thread and adopt a bully-on-sight policy elsewhere. Laughing at retards pissing themselves isn't as fun when that's what gets them off.
i cant believe people even give this freak attention. it's just want he wants. he'd fuck back off to /lgbt/ if you ignored him.
Don't want to backseat moderate here though, you guys do you.
 
If you're really ftm, I have a bit of respect for choosing to play in hard mode.

You should stop using the etiquette of trans and fully acting like you're a man that's what most Ftm do anyway.
 
y'all so obsessed with me, literally blushing right now fr, if I had a neodick I'd be hard
>neodick
>hard
Also >claim to have gender dysphoria
>truscum
>wore a flower crown, trying to make shirt sleeve become moe sleeves, pose like a typical uwu tumblr soft girl
>draw yaoi gay cat boy fujo shits
>wears e-thot uwu chokers
>wearing 10 different bracelets like a typical butch dyke
>pose for selfies like every typical teen girls on instagram

You're just confusing uncomfortness with puberty + pornsick/groom by internet, you don't have gender dysphoria lol

Also very disappointed you ignore my nicely compilation of the SRS thread :(
 
To say your mind can be one thing while your body is another thing goes against all mainstream rational science that the whole transgender ideology claims to found itself on. Science accepts only that your mind and body are one and the same; your mind is a combination of signals sent by your body and neurons firing within. It's not possible for you to have a the "wrong brain" or the "wrong body." It's only possible to formulate a contrived argument within yourself that the cause of all of your problems is your gender. It's not. The problem is you and your refusal to change with the rest of the world. Mainstream psychology up until this point has been almost entirely about learning to accept things as they are and learning to live with them. I can tolerate people doing freakish things with their own bodies. I cannot tolerate doctors working with and entire textbooks being written on baseless claims and falsehoods which is then reprinted and redistributed as irrefutable facts and evidence about something that really doesn't even exist.
 
The reason nobody likes transgenders is because they are predatory towards children to "reproduce", similar to how homosexuals do it, except its less a physical molestation and more a mental one. We all know there are freaks that are bound to crop up, and when they keep it to themselves usually people leave them to their own devices, unfortunately these sorts of people have a compulsion to spread their "way of life" unto others, which is very difficult to do to sane adults, so they often target children as they are malleable and not smart.
 
The reason nobody likes transgenders is because they are predatory towards children to "reproduce", similar to how homosexuals do it, except its less a physical molestation and more a mental one. We all know there are freaks that are bound to crop up, and when they keep it to themselves usually people leave them to their own devices, unfortunately these sorts of people have a compulsion to spread their "way of life" unto others, which is very difficult to do to sane adults, so they often target children as they are malleable and not smart.
It's not kosher to say so but the harm of the movement is indeed the ideological fabric and the passage of information based on it. As much as I am someone who hates all forms of censorship in any direction, it's hard to not want to censor what is effectively an informational hazard to people with a poor or undeveloped sense of self. This could all be far less harmful if we could just openly say that 99% of tranny cases are mentally deranged people trying to fix themselves with nonsense. If we could have a real, open conversation with today's youth and just let them know how fucking bizarre the entire idea is, we could move on as a healthy society together.
 
Then the kid disagrees with them on something, so they start to mentally and verbally abuse him. Which is why they are targeting vulnerable people.

Probably the 'unsupportive parents' were trying to dissuade the kid from self destructive behaviors, such as believing the only people who would look out for him are abusive progressives. Incorrect ideas such as the one in this comic is a large part of why progressives have become such horrid abusive people.

This comic shows a marked lack of accuracy in its depiction of progressives.
 
It's not kosher to say so but the harm of the movement is indeed the ideological fabric and the passage of information based on it. As much as I am someone who hates all forms of censorship in any direction, it's hard to not want to censor what is effectively an informational hazard to people with a poor or undeveloped sense of self. This could all be far less harmful if we could just openly say that 99% of tranny cases are mentally deranged people trying to fix themselves with nonsense. If we could have a real, open conversation with today's youth and just let them know how fucking bizarre the entire idea is, we could move on as a healthy society together.
I believe we've gotten to a point in society where we can be tolerant of those who we may find disgusting and abhorrent (with exceptions such as outright pedophiles, even if non-offending), SO LONG AS they are private about their mental deficiencies and are AWARE that they are ill. If transgenders wanted their small enclave of schizophrenics with very specific delusions about gender identity to be left alone, they should have kept to themselves and done their own thing in a very niche, private "community". They should not have started making their "movement" public, at all, much less pushing it on vulnerable children.
 
I believe we've gotten to a point in society where we can be tolerant of those who we may find disgusting and abhorrent (with exceptions such as outright pedophiles, even if non-offending), SO LONG AS they are private about their mental deficiencies and are AWARE that they are ill. If transgenders wanted their small enclave of schizophrenics with very specific delusions about gender identity to be left alone, they should have kept to themselves and done their own thing in a very niche, private "community". They should not have started making their "movement" public, at all, much less pushing it on vulnerable children.
It was far more tolerable when the only place you'd find them is a gay club, and even then they'd be standing there going "yes I am a sex pest and a degenerate and you should keep me away from your kids, thank you for noticing!"
 
I'm going to bite the bait and say:
Support = cult tactics and behavior and encouragement of self-destructive behaviors (some unrelated to troonery itself such as drugs) until the person is a empty husk that repeats the ideas like a broken record, and even then it will no longer be as special.
Am I right?
 
@Cauchy

I am going to say this

TROONING OUT will not exempt you from misogyny.
real men don't see you as a man, they'll indulge you because most not saying all, but most men are coom brained degenerates. They won't see you as a man to fuck you, they'll see you as a novelty a toy, a piece of easy fuck meat, your basically being the easy girl but with extra steps.

Think about it for a moment, theres a reason why gay guys won't fuck troons, either mtf or ftm, because they're men who want real men, not a delusional schizo in a dress, or a broken female trying to larp as an UwU soft catboi.

No amount of HRT or SRS or playing into toxic masculinity will ever ever I mean ever exempt you from being seen as female. None. its not possible born a female you will always be regarded as one by your fellow man. I'd almost feel pity if you weren't an insufferable faggot about your troonery.

the fact is your a woman op, a broken one thinking that if you ran away what most people deem as femininity that it would absolve you from the trappings and worst parts of society that comes with it. It doesn't and the fact is your screwing over other women for this larp. Women have tolerate sex weirdos in their intimate spaces, women have to tolerate them in there beds, women have to tolerate them in their sports. Women are the most hurt by troonery.

never mind the harm to women.

mild sperging ahead

T is more harsh on females; by taking t you risk drastically altering your body for the worse, should you want to turn back at a later point you can't be fully restored back to what you once were. Not only would it alter your voice and body hair but you run the risk of self induced pcos. As a sufferer of that I can tell you that monthly pain was the worst for me, before I got any real treatment for that my quality of of life was severely impacted. Doctors don't take that kind of pain seriously too, so unlike your troon treatments where in some places all you have do is say your trans to atleast get hrt, good luck getting an er doctor to believe that the pain your experiencings is serious and not you being hysterical.

ruptured ovarian cysts are the worst pain ever, probably close to giving birth, and a risk when you have pcos. Doctors don't take womens reproductive health seriously unlike indulging troons. It can also impact your fertility so if you want kids at some point well hrt can make you infertile.

I know this is wasted effort.

you'll 41 percent yourself anyway. just want to let you know that.
 
As much as I am someone who hates all forms of censorship in any direction, it's hard to not want to censor what is effectively an informational hazard to people with a poor or undeveloped sense of self.
Trans is not an idea in the marketplace of ideas. Trans is an economy, not just an ideology, as hormones and surgeries are being sold. The ideology is a house of straw used for reputation laundering, and the massive pro-trans coverage in media is just market protectionism.
 
@Cauchy if you want to trigger A&H Republican simps, point out how they act like 75 year old puritanical baby boomers, the fact that they're more than likely turbo manlets, and the fact that they're usually religious fundamentalists.

That and top hats make them seethe
Dude you write like an A.I.
I am super confident someone could create a bot able to HHH post 24/7
 
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I believe we've gotten to a point in society where we can be tolerant of those who we may find disgusting and abhorrent (with exceptions such as outright pedophiles, even if non-offending), SO LONG AS they are private about their mental deficiencies and are AWARE that they are ill. If transgenders wanted their small enclave of schizophrenics with very specific delusions about gender identity to be left alone, they should have kept to themselves and done their own thing in a very niche, private "community". They should not have started making their "movement" public, at all, much less pushing it on vulnerable children.

This is my problem with trannies. A lot of them are genuinely mentally ill. A lot of them, both male and female, are legitimately perverts. A lot of them are the predatory men all women fear.

I'm perfectly willing to believe that not every tranny is a terminally online pervert (although op is not exactly making a good argument for that).

However, we have a thread with over 92,000 posts of evidence that proves, beyond a reasonable doubt, that a whole fucking lot of them are fucked up people who deserve a bullet to the head.

We have proof they groom children. We have proof they are degenerates and pedos. Many of the troons featured in that thread are only mentioned once or twice, so we have proof that there are a lot of them that are broken, sick people. We find new perverts almost daily. I see something on Twitter about perverts in the gay and trans community every single day, and most of the people I follow are fucking wokies!

You know what we do not have proof of? Trannies distancing themselves in any kind of large number from these bad people. When Chris Chan was arrested for raping his mother the discourse wasn't NotAllTrannies, it was respect [her] pronouns. We have proof. Yaniv was defended for literally years before some of them silently distanced themselves. Ezra Miller is another tranny that gets defended. The tranny shield is real, and disgusting.

Despite our reputation here we're not all unreasonable haters. If we saw trannies trying to distance themselves from those freaks, they'd be posted in the thread with sincere attaboys. I know I've posted a few. It's really telling (as far as I'm concerned) that we don't see that here.

Maybe not all trannies are awful people, but the loudest voices set the tone for a group - for better or worse - and the trans community is saying very loudly and clearly that they are freaks and perverts who should never be around children or in women's spaces.

That's why people fear and disgust them. The pushback that is growing among normies is 100% their fault.
 
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