⛓️ Incarcerated Lindsay Kantha Souvannarath / Heretics on Holiday - Failed Halifax Mass Shooter & Asian Nazi Fetishist. Sentenced to life in jail.

[DrJonesHat]

Tough to call, its a novel charge not seen much around here.

Since the Crown has upper hand, and taking into account seriousness of charges, my guess is the Crown would not offer anything lower than 12-15 years. And even that would be quite generous.

But Lindsay will be in her late 30s at least before she is out.

I'm glad she's going to a significant amount of time at least. I was worried since she's not a Canadian citizen they'd only give her a few years and then boot her out and bar her from returning. Then would-be spree killers would get the idea that it's no big deal if you plan a mass killing and get caught.

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

If you plan a mass murder that's pretty well beyond being a teenage edgelord, "didn't we all do that as a kid" type stuff.

That's basically what happened here. She didn't grow up before she was given enough freedom to do something retarded.
I wonder how quickly prison will make her mature beyond crying about internet boyfriends with nazi fetishes. She'll spend who knows how many nights a completely different person staring up at the ceiling remembering how retarded she was for getting herself there.

 

[Long Sun]

Conspire to commit murder is generally a range of 5-18 so a broad range however the case itself is interesting in that they did not have a paticalur target in mind rather planned to shoot a bunch of random people. Anyways a note about plea bargain in Canada if the Judge doesn't like your deal they can reject it an impose any fit sentence, what is being agreed to is a Joint Submission on sentencing so if there was an agreement to a 2 years less a day (fairly common in mid level serious case because 2 year and up is Federal time) the Judge could say " Well outside the range I will reject it an impose a sentence of 5 years".

 

[Count groudon]

In a way I almost pity her. She's going to spend what would be some of the best years of her life locked away in a prison cell, all because she lost her head and tried to live out some retarded murder fantasy. But rdgardless she's still trash that was going to not only destroy the lives of completely innocent people in a public place, but also two equally stupid boys.

 

[AnOminous]

In a way I almost pity her. She's going to spend what would be some of the best years of her life locked away in a prison cell, all because she lost her head and tried to live out some retarded murder fantasy. But rdgardless she's still trash that was going to not only destroy the lives of completely innocent people in a public place, but also two equally stupid boys.

They should also take into consideration that while they never directly murdered anyone, one of the co-conspirators ended up killing himself, as a reasonably proximate result of the actions of the defendants. So it isn't like the crime had no victims at all.

 

[Holdek]

Okay, so, these two fat fellahs, see, they're sitting in the biggest bath in the bath house, naked as the day they were born, and the bath is filled with liquid poo. These guys are sitting in diarrhea, a big bath of diarrhea, with their big, thick, hairy, pepperoni nipples bobbing on the surface.

The reason behind this is that one of the fat guys challenged the other (we can't tell which, because they're twins) that he could drink more poo than the other could. This has been going on for days, though, and neither of these two guys ever sleep, or brush their teeth. They just drink more of this gooey shit they're sitting in, which, in turn, causes them to shit out more shit, which they then dedicate themselves to gulping down, just to show up the other guy. It's just this Möbius strip of naked fat guys consuming and expelling poop.

You need a break from reading about Iconoclast's fantasies.

 

[LiveFromNS]

The terrible two briefly appeared in Court today.

There apparently will be a meeting with a judge to determine future procedures which will take place in February. Trial dates are set to be scheduled on February 25th.

Apparently counsel for the Defendants are starting to bark about their clients still not having trial dates, more than 6 months after they were committed to stand trial on the charges.

I did not get to see them but did chat with one of the Sherriffs I know at the courthouse earlier this afternoon. She said they are both at the Central Nova Scotia Correctional Centre in Dartmouth.

 

[AnOminous]

Apparently counsel for the Defendants are starting to bark about their clients still not having trial dates, more than 6 months after they were committed to stand trial on the charges.

That sounds about right. I'm not sure of the exact mechanics of how they do "speedy trial" stuff in Canada, but 180 days is often a sort of deadline for prosecution and you can't just lock up people indefinitely without trying them. Obviously, the defendant has to exercise this right, you don't get to just wait 180 days and then say gotcha, and if the defendant's own litigation activities are what caused the delay, it also doesn't apply.

But in general, defendants do have the right to a speedy trial.

 

[Long Sun]

There is a very clear right to a trial without reasonable delay in Canada however it depends on a number of factor, but there are 3 kinds of delay 1) Defense caused delay 2) Crown caused delay 3) institutional delay here we have a very very complex case (100 of thousands of pages of disclosure) so I would expect a lot of it is institutional delay.

What is interesting here is the delay is between the prelim and the trial which may change thing, but generally speaking 6 month is not a grossly long time paticalurly since they are facing one of the most serious offense(s.469) in the Criminal Code. That said anytime you don't agree with a delay complain to the Judge so it becomes Crown delay.

In short I don't think a stay would be granted anytime soon

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

There is a very clear right to a trial without reasonable delay in Canada however it depends on a number of factor, but there are 3 kinds of delay 1) Defense caused delay 2) Crown caused delay 3) institutional delay here we have a very very complex case (100 of thousands of pages of disclosure) so I would expect a lot of it is institutional delay.

What is interesting here is the delay is between the prelim and the trial which may change thing, but generally speaking 6 month is not a grossly long time paticalurly since they are facing one of the most serious offense(s.469) in the Criminal Code. That said anytime you don't agree with a delay complain to the Judge so it becomes Crown delay.

In short I don't think a stay would be granted anytime soon

From what @LiveFromNS is implying, that may be the case. Which is a pity because I thought this shit would have been done and over with for a while now.

 

[AnOminous]

There is a very clear right to a trial without reasonable delay in Canada however it depends on a number of factor, but there are 3 kinds of delay 1) Defense caused delay 2) Crown caused delay 3) institutional delay here we have a very very complex case (100 of thousands of pages of disclosure) so I would expect a lot of it is institutional delay.

I agree we're looking at a 3 here. The case is actually very complex.

However, that doesn't justify just endlessly delaying it and the defense is right, the prosecution needs to get off its ass and make its case.

 

[LiveFromNS]

Some of the issues I can see still being discussed/hammered out are things like media access, assignment of a judge, court/judge/counsel schedules, electronic submission of evidence, streaming the session live etc.

I assume the prosecution are trying to still wade thru the massive amount of evidence. They are probably also attempting to obtain electronic records from various email providers, websites etc. Given the sheer volume of the evidence, they have to pick out all the key stuff for sure. A lot of it would be babble and have no relevance to the case.

The amount they have to go through is mitigated by the length of time Nazi chick knew the two virgins. They probably only have to really start there for most part. Will be interesting once we know if they just said one night lets shoot up a mall, or if they spent months planning it.

I also expect that if they don't cut a deal and this goes to trial, it should surpass the Trivial Pursuit trial here in NS. That case, known as Wall v. Horn, was reallll long. From the headnote of the decision:

Heard: May 23-25, June 5-8, 12-15, 19-22, July 4-7, 10-12, 19, 24, 25, 31, August 1, 8-10, 14-17, 21-24, 28-30, October 30, November 30 and December 1, 2006; January 5 and 6, 2007; (total 47 days)
Written submissions, February 7, 2007.
Judgment: June 22, 2007

Link to decision if any of you colleagues in law wish to have a read. Dude tried to sue inventors saying he told them idea for game.

 

[Durable Mike Malloy]

Perhaps this is old news, but the plucky girl detectives at lolcow.farm have been discussing a 2013 blog maintained by someone who accompanied Lindsay on study abroad in Southeast Asia.
http://lizardsinthebathroom.blogspot.co.uk/ refers to Lindsay as "Lilith," but slips up and uses her real name at least once.

To summarize the relevant bits:

The entire term schedule was rearranged because Lindsay wanted to visit her father's family in Laos for the first time. She dressed inappropriately for the meeting and spent most of the time hiding in her room on her computer. Other students were afraid Lindsay's family would all be creepy Nazis, but were pleasantly surprised by her adorable grandmother.

No one wanted to share a room or cab or plane with Lindsay ever. She was rude to her host family, insulted the host students by burping deliberately at them, was rude to the chaperones, disrespected the course instructors by falling asleep in lecture, caused unspecified "drama," drew a creepy horse and wrote Nazi edgelord stuff for attention, revolted everyone with her poor table manners, declared that she hated black people at some sort of multicultural event, got drunk and behaved poorly when her boyfriend - Slavros? - broke up with her, was generally socially awkward, unpleasant and unlikeable.

Lindsay accidentally took someone else's suitcase at the airport, and a chaperone was assaulted in the process of straightening out the mix-up. Rather than expressing any sort of concern or gratitude, she refused to do anything except ask him when he'd get her suitcase back.

Spoiler: She shows up in the background of a few pictures.

All in all, not many surprises - just confirmation of what everyone expected Lindsay would be like in real life.

 

[Fresh Grown Breasts]

Perhaps this is old news, but the plucky girl detectives at lolcow.farm have been discussing a 2013 blog maintained by someone who accompanied Lindsay on study abroad in Southeast Asia.
http://lizardsinthebathroom.blogspot.co.uk/ refers to Lindsay as "Lilith," but slips up and uses her real name at least once.

To summarize the relevant bits:

The entire term schedule was rearranged because Lindsay wanted to visit her father's family in Laos for the first time. She dressed inappropriately for the meeting and spent most of the time hiding in her room on her computer. Other students were afraid Lindsay's family would all be creepy Nazis, but were pleasantly surprised by her adorable grandmother.

No one wanted to share a room or cab or plane with Lindsay ever. She was rude to her host family, insulted the host students by burping deliberately at them, rude to the chaperones, disrespected the course instructors by falling asleep in lecture, caused unspecified "drama," drew a creepy horse and wrote Nazi edgelord stuff for attention, revolted everyone with her poor table manners, told everyone at some sort of Multicultural Fusion event that she hated black people, got drunk and behaved unpleasantly when her boyfriend - Stavros? - broke up with her, was generally socially awkward, unpleasant and unlikeable.

Lindsay accidentally took someone else's suitcase at the airport, and a chaperone was assaulted in the process of straightening out the mix-up. Rather than expressing any sort of concern or gratitude, she refused to do anything except ask him when he'd get her suitcase back.

Spoiler: She shows up in the background of a few pictures.

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All in all, not many surprises - just confirmation of what everyone expected Lindsay would be like in real life.

This is a really interesting insight into how she behaves. Someone's online persona can sometimes be completely at odds with Real Life, but it seems she's as much of a cunt as expected. Also, thank you for compiling and summarising it, I just checked the blog and it's pretty mind numbing to sift through, much kudos for finding the gems.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Perhaps this is old news, but the plucky girl detectives at lolcow.farm have been discussing a 2013 blog maintained by someone who accompanied Lindsay on study abroad in Southeast Asia.
http://lizardsinthebathroom.blogspot.co.uk/ refers to Lindsay as "Lilith," but slips up and uses her real name at least once.

To summarize the relevant bits:

The entire term schedule was rearranged because Lindsay wanted to visit her father's family in Laos for the first time. She dressed inappropriately for the meeting and spent most of the time hiding in her room on her computer. Other students were afraid Lindsay's family would all be creepy Nazis, but were pleasantly surprised by her adorable grandmother.

No one wanted to share a room or cab or plane with Lindsay ever. She was rude to her host family, insulted the host students by burping deliberately at them, rude to the chaperones, disrespected the course instructors by falling asleep in lecture, caused unspecified "drama," drew a creepy horse and wrote Nazi edgelord stuff for attention, revolted everyone with her poor table manners, told everyone at some sort of Multicultural Fusion event that she hated black people, got drunk and behaved unpleasantly when her boyfriend - Stavros? - broke up with her, was generally socially awkward, unpleasant and unlikeable.

Lindsay accidentally took someone else's suitcase at the airport, and a chaperone was assaulted in the process of straightening out the mix-up. Rather than expressing any sort of concern or gratitude, she refused to do anything except ask him when he'd get her suitcase back.

Spoiler: She shows up in the background of a few pictures.

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All in all, not many surprises - just confirmation of what everyone expected Lindsay would be like in real life.

Nice to see that she's just as bad around real people as she is with internet people. Though her criminal record kinda helped.

 

[DrJonesHat]

So she's a self-centered bitch in real life too? Color me unsurprised.

 

[lindsayfan]

Very valuable context for us hardcore Lindsayologists. gj lolfarm

 

[AnOminous]

All in all, not many surprises - just confirmation of what everyone expected Lindsay would be like in real life.

It's kind of funny that she was probably better behaved here than she ever was on any other site or irl.

 

[bunnyfood]

My girlfriend also posted this on her old "nazivikingspacemarine" blog.


"YOUR GIRLFRIEND DESERVES TO DIE
The world would be a much better place to live in if it were guaranteed that wicked men died as virgins. I’d like to be able to point at a typical bully, abuser, or thug and taunt that no woman would ever want him. It’s the only thing they understand. They have no conception of morality, unable to perceive humanity as having any purpose beyond feeding, fighting and fucking. Especially fucking.
We’re taught that women are the arbiters, offering future offspring to those whose genes should be passed on. We’re taught that they drive the process of evolution by selecting only the best and the brightest men.
Oh, I wish.
Why bother trying to better yourself as a person when there are thousands of battered, raped, psychologically broken and easily manipulated BUT TOTALLY HOT girls turning eighteen every day? They’ll even do anal if you verbally abuse them enough!
I try to keep fighting. I try to deliver punishment whenever I can, within the bounds of social decency, which doesn’t get me far at all. Any argument I can try to lay down is always met with “Yeah, well MY GIRLFRIEND…”
One day, I’d like to be able to respond “Too bad, son. I’m putting her down. Step aside, I’m a professional.” Of course, that’s a lie. I’m not a professional. But I have to start somewhere. If you don’t treat your toys nicely, I throw them away. Because that’s all that these girlfriends are. Toys.
I cannot see them as human beings for they offer nothing to the human experience. They will create no art worth seeing, write no tale worth reading, have no thought that couldn’t be gleaned from Nicholas Sparks novels and trite ‘inspirational’ posters. They have the intellectual curiosity of a germ. They believe that ambitions are something for other people.
They seek happiness in nothing but the love they give to others, believing their relationships to be divine and meaningful rather than something that is easily replicated by a Labrador retriever. Therefore they do not know that they are endlessly rewarding the evil deeds of men unworthy, and thus inadvertently weakening society. And quite frankly, they’re not even pretty. Nothing is lost if I put them down. In fact, we have everything to gain. But her mommy and daddy will be sad. :’C
I see them all the time. They are constantly smiling, not because they are happy, but because they wouldn’t want to offend anyone by not smiling. They are unaware of the fact that they are prey animals, and that I hate them. They tell me they love my outfit, that I’m so very pretty. My replies are terse. I have no business speaking to them. Their existence drives me to nihilism, and they’re asking about my weekend plans. They think I’m shy when I’m just ignoring them.
Of course your girlfriend isn’t like that, I’m sure she’s a beautiful and unique snowflake. She’s had some troubles in the past, but learning to trust you has made her so much better. Please. there is no such thing as a cute couple none of you fucking fucks are cute you’re all stinking sweating bags of meat propagating a race of pig-apes in the absence of a benevolent god who has either fucked off to another universe or been buried under a pile of innocents lying cold and rotten in a mass grave and here you are making gifs of yourselves kissing as the value of human life continues to deteriorate i would sell your souls for a pistol loaded with a single bullet this is how much i hate you this is how much i hate a world that you exist in my prayers for annihilation dissipate into the empty cosmos and die as you ought to your story ends here"

 

[Roast Chicken]

So much bile and anger...