Debate newfag Cauchy on if trannies deserve anything

I came to read a real debate thread and got nothing. Just from the highlights, I can see that OP just kinda,,, didn’t answer some replies that are both respectful and logical, and while I personally prefer those posts, it makes me sad that OP didn’t actually have anything of value to add to the gender debate. That’s the internet, ig
 
Ever read the works of A. James Gregor? The man himself lead the field in the study of fascism to the point he was The Knight of the Order of Merit for his research alone. Before you say he is some quack professor as well, he was the professor of Political Science at UCLA Berkley. In other words, he was poli sci professor who would most certainly disagree with you
We're way off topic here, but he also claimed the USSR was fascist. I guess then, by your logic, most A&H shutins are lefties and not righties.

Every other political scientist would disagree with him. Although it's ironic how you guys who like fascism and are die-hard Republicans also deny that fascism is a right-wing ideology. You want to have your cake and eat it too
 
We're way off topic here, but he also claimed the USSR was fascist. I guess then, by your logic, most A&H shutins are lefties and not righties.
Because the syndicalist who operated the economy planned it from a trade-unionist perspective? I would advise you to research the Soviet aeronautics industry to see what I'm talking about.
Every other political scientist would disagree with him. Although it's ironic how you guys who like fascism and are die-hard Republicans also deny that fascism is a right-wing ideology. You want to have your cake and eat it too
Because political science is looking at History through biased lens like you & I do every day, plus just because there is a mass consensus doesn't mean it's correct.

Example: do we follow Newton's law of gravity or Einstein's law of relativity? Because there was a mass consensus that Newton's law is law, the highest obtained field in science. You couldn't question it for over a hundred years
 
Because political science is looking at History through biased lens like you & I do every day, plus just because there is a mass consensus doesn't mean it's correct.

Example: do we follow Newton's law of gravity or Einstein's law of relativity? Because there was a mass consensus that Newton's law is law, the highest obtained field in science. You couldn't question it for over a hundred years
I do agree about the bias, but you really think that you and every A&Her is a leftie then?
 
We're way off topic here, but he also claimed the USSR was fascist. I guess then, by your logic, most A&H shutins are lefties and not righties.

Every other political scientist would disagree with him. Although it's ironic how you guys who like fascism and are die-hard Republicans also deny that fascism is a right-wing ideology. You want to have your cake and eat it too
Point of order, fascism is technically "the third way". Fascists historically vociferously set themselves in opposition to reactionaries, mainline conservatives and the like embracing both futurism and rejecting the authority of the church and deference to notables.

The ideal of fascism is rebirth or regeneration, whereas reactionaries at least stereotypically want to "retvrn" to some prior time, and conservatives want to maintain the status quo. For this reason, fascists often saw the former two as either dead weight or temporary allies at best, enemies at worst as fascists want to remake things, with an eye on both honoring the past and going into the future.
 
Referencing an earlier pic I don't care to find now, the fact that young man with androgynous features can, with enough surgery, makeup, clever camera angles, and decontextualization, appear almost indistinguishable from a real woman means nothing. It doesn't mean he's "more feminine" or "more validly a woman" than the ugliest, fattest woman on the planet.

It's equivalent to artificially flavored imitation crab meat. A fake crab salad sandwich can be pretty tasty. It's not more validly crab meat than rancid Alaskan Snow Crab. It's not more validly crab meat than little crabs that aren't even worth trying to eat. It's just not crab, no matter how sophisticated the synthetic flavor is, no matter how cleverly the starch-and-fish mix is concocted to feel like the real thing. It will never, ever be crab meat.
 
@Cauchy You come on here trying to make us see that not all trannies are bad and delusional while really not proving to us that you're "one of the good ones". You make all the same talking points we're sick of hearing, saying shit like sex is fluid and changable, still misunderstanding what trangenderism actually is. It is not proof that sex is malleable, it's not an identity, it's a mental disorder that a miniscule percent of the population expiriences. You're not supposed to feel like the wrong sex. That's not normal or healthy. It's an anomily. It shouldn't be part of the gay alphabet at all imo.

On another note, most of the hate trannies get has been brought on by their own community. Personally I don't hate trangender people and I don't believe they all behave like the ones we see here on the farms, but I can also recognize that their community (at least the online one) does have a very prevalent problem with grooming. I don't mean pedo grooming, thought I'm sure it happens too, but this weird almost pleasure so many get from making others believe they're trans too. Like they're converting them into a religion. It's fucking weird, it's damaging, and you don't really see it from other LGB communities. The term "egg" existing at all is fucked up. If someone is denying a label you're trying to give them, BACK OFF AND LISTEN. This is why we call you a cult.

So if nothing else, can you at least acknowledge that your comunity has a dangerous problem? Try and understand where we're coming from?
 
Transtrenders always remind me of a class clown. They act out because they see they get reactions out of people and it feels good. It’s really unfortunate that the 13 and depressed? meme isn’t a joke. Going after kids just barely reaching puberty and dealing with the normal pains of growing up and even mental illness and showing them there is this large community where you can be an oddball and everyone will love you is enticing to them. They want acceptance and to fit in. But it’s grown ups and predators egging them on and that’s absolutely disgusting
 
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transwomen are real women but actually attractive and have personality
Jesus Christ, even actually incels and femcels (the smart ones, assuming they are) provide data or some sort of straw man statement to back that up as fact.

You are unironically saying this with, not only next to no evidence in the form of some bullshit article that propagates your talking points, you seem to think you're some sort of based tranny chad making a bold statement and immediately claiming, 'and no, I will not elaborate.'

I can't tell if this is some new form of trolling that I can't unravel, but either way, with or without context, this isn't exactly something somebody with critical thinking says and doesn't question, if only for but a moment.
 
@Cauchy aren't you supposed to be FtM? Are you just a self hating woman? Like holy shit, I have seen incels that are not as hostile to women. Are you just upset that you don't look like a super model? Plain faced? Masculine interests or hobbies? Were you bullied in middle school?

If any of the above is true, I can sympathize with you-I'm not a girl but I do have enough self awareness to know they have their own struggles, plain and un girly ones all the worse. You need therapy though, and to accept you are in fact a woman.
 
We're way off topic here, but he also claimed the USSR was fascist. I guess then, by your logic, most A&H shutins are lefties and not righties.

Every other political scientist would disagree with him. Although it's ironic how you guys who like fascism and are die-hard Republicans also deny that fascism is a right-wing ideology. You want to have your cake and eat it too
There is a modern trend of leftoid polsci professors trying to redesignate the early USSR as right-wing, and while they have some okay points concerning the extreme social conservatism of the USSR, they're still wrong and optics-obsessed and nakedly politically-motivated and it's just as pathetic as the rightoids pulling the "actually Hitler was a leftist" argument.
 
The people that support trannies are just as insufferable as the actual trannies like you: playing victim while abusing actual victims like the women you seem to hate so much. I have a feeling you get off being abused or having people go against you because you get to have that status of being a victim, that you're the little underdog fighting against the mighty empire. Try not to 41% yourself on your way out.
 
I didn't even hit radical feminism until I got out of sex work after a good four years of being pimped out by an ex; before that I was a liberal feminist, because liberal feminism sold me the idea of what I did was empowering and not an obvious cancer I was trying to kill with alcohol every night I was involved in it. terfism wasn't an out and out day 1 decision of oh Immah be a terf now.

it was a long grueling process of finding out why I was lied to , why despite how people told me sex work is work just like any job, it still felt like exploitation, and the extent to how much bullshit was sold to me. It was progressive series of shower thoughts and deep introspection to come to terms with the fact liberal feminism is a lie and if I kept whoring I'd get killed or kill myself by drinking myself to the grave. no where was trannies in that equation; HOW ever because liberal feminism is a lie about sex work, it got the noggin joggin about other topics like you guess it troons.

its amazing really I went full terf because liberal feminism lied to me, and instead of seeing reality of the situation I was in a barely legel 18 year girl who was essentially groomed into sex work by a man 10 years older than her, and obviously what is a trafficking en lite situation, no all I got was YASSS QUEEN slay get yo coin. Irl had literal physical cries for help, and no one helped instead the gave me toxic fake affirmation. I guess you can say I started of swerf then jumped into terf when I realized men and by extension troons encourage sex work too.

if you think @Cauchy I started off as a bigotted troon hater your dead wrong; my path to terfdom was lined with thorns, I started off being lied to about whats empowering and whats not to coming up with my own conclusion that sex work and troonery must go. I had before the forced sex work been somewhat of a live let live type, now if I ran my perfect ancap state degneneretes like you would be yeeted of the earth with recreational nukes.
What happened to you sucks.
But let me understand, almost all men on this planet need sex. Just like you get hungry and thirsty, males have a very strong sex drive.
Some men need to pay for sex because they are too unattractive or boring/mentally ill or whatever
You don't want them to have access to any women not even by payment, and there are some males that do the female sex job, but you also hate those.
So my question is what do u want to do with all those impulses?
I understand if you were stupid at 18 and got exploited by the world i was stupid back then too and my future self will think im stupid today
But "get yo coin girl", coins are very hard to get
You were getting paid, if you want to improve the working conditions of prostitutes the way certainly isn't demonizing them further just because you were too naive to know better, prostitution has been with us since the beginning and it will stay with us.
It would be like musicians saying music is evil because they got royally fucked by their label.
Everything "lies" to you. You decide what to buy

Listen closely...
its the rest of the world crying for help as well.
 
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