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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Keir and Angela have been cleared to the surprise of literally no one.
Keir is quite good at clearing people of their involvement of crimes. Just like Cameron was good at pretending he didnt take the nukes from south Africa and storing them in iraq. Amazing what those in power can clear themselves of really.
 
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Wallace has ruled himself out of the leadership race. All the big figures are backing Sunak, except the turk, who thinks he's "betrayed" him.
 

Father-of-six is called 'disgusting' racist slurs in DVLA logbooks for a car he doesn't even own

A gym owner said he was left 'traumatised' by racist DVLA logbooks branding him a 'BLACK N****R P*SSY' for a car he doesn't even own.

Marvin Greaves, 40, says he received the 'depressing' letter last Wednesday with the sick 'racist' name in the letterhead.

The entrepreneur claims he does not own a vehicle, nor does he have a licence.

He believes the vehicle might have been stolen and registered under his name.


All right, which one of you lot works at the DVLA then?

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https://english.alaraby.co.uk/opinion/media-manufacturing-muslim-grooming-gangs-crisis

Over the past decade, the UK’s “grooming gangs” have become a key focus for the international alt-right and far-right, whereby racialised and sensationalised concerns about child sexual exploitation tie in neatly with a broader anti-immigration, anti-Islam agenda. Disturbing examples of direct action linked to this issue include terrorist attacks at mosques in London’s Finsbury Park and New Zealand’s Christchurch, the racially-aggravated murder of an elderly Muslim man in Rotherham, extensive marches and abuse targeting Muslim communities in England’s North and Midlands, and far-right interventions that jeopardised major abuse trials.

There have also been attempts – some successful, others not – to recruit people who have been abused, and their families, to further anti-Islam agendas.

Yet, the racialisation of child sexual exploitation is no fringe phenomenon. Mainstream journalists, commentators, politicians from both left and right, and a dubious ‘counter-extremism’ think-tank, have all played a key role in spreading and entrenching the “Muslim grooming gangs” stereotype, as my colleague Waqas Tufail and I have documented.

''Perhaps the worst example to date came with clear echoes of Nazi-era rhetoric: in reference to “grooming gangs”, The Sun’s then political editor asked, “what will we do about the Muslim problem then?. In the same edition, Labour MP Sarah Champion wrote a commentary arguing that “these people are predators, and the common denominator is their ethnic heritage”.''
The term “grooming gangs” was racially coded from the start and continues to evoke associations with non-whiteness and the Islamic faith. Its blunter equivalent, “Muslim rape gangs”, has proliferated too, throwing up over a million results on Google alone. Racial stereotyping around “grooming gangs” is now well-established within a broader tradition that includes the demonisation of black men as rapists and muggers and Muslims as terrorists and sexual deviants.

Preventing and responding effectively to any child sexual abuse is vital and underlying the “grooming gangs” narrative are very real offences with significant harms. Yet, what we are dealing with here has all the hallmarks of a moral panic: a relatively small number of cases have been cherrypicked, decontextualised, heavily publicised and relentlessly spun to create the illusion of a vast threat from the “Other”.

Interest exploded from 2011, when The Times claimed to have uncovered a new crime threat of “on-street grooming”: soon after re-dubbed “grooming gangs”. Since then, the media have pushed a gendered, racialised threat narrative that brown Muslim men are systematically sexually terrorising white British girls. The rhetoric here is often couched in terms of “our girls”, usually serving as a euphemism for white and implicitly framing young women as property to be defended. For example, a Conservative MP declared in Parliament last year that victims “more often than not are white working-class girls – our girls”. There have been numerous dramatic and similarly poorly-evidenced claims about the scale and causes of “grooming gangs” too: most notoriously a UKIP MP’s assertion that the UK is facing “a holocaust of our daughters” due to abuse linked “to the Islamic faith”.

The chief architect of the new stereotype was a then little-known journalist at The Times called Andrew Norfolk. Norfolk subsequently received prestigious journalism awards and became a household name. His journalistic standards have since been exposed as extremely poor, following a series of inaccurate and unethical stories apparently designed to portray Muslims as a threat. He remains in post, however, as the paper’s chief investigative reporter.

Nevertheless, the responsibility for manufacturing this crisis goes much further than Norfolk and The Times, with whole swathes of the British media soon producing racialised coverage of “grooming gangs” and speculating extensively on their supposed causes.

Perhaps the worst example to date came with clear echoes of Nazi-era rhetoric: in reference to “grooming gangs”, The Sun’s then political editor asked, “what will we do about the Muslim problem then?. In the same edition, Labour MP Sarah Champion wrote a commentary arguing that “[t]hese people are predators, and the common denominator is their ethnic heritage”.

Although she later apologised somewhat for the wording, Champion remains an active figure in racialising child sexual exploitation.

Generally speaking, the term “grooming gang” gets used to refer to the sexual abuse of older children by groups of men in certain settings outside the home. Crucially, neither “grooming gangs” nor “grooming gang offences” are defined in law, and their conceptual boundaries are vague, shifting and inconsistent. This point is critical as, coupled with poor research practices and hidden agendas, it has enabled incredibly misleading claims-making.

The most notorious example is the now-defunct Quilliam Foundation’s insistence that “84% of grooming gang offenders” are Asian, primarily of Pakistani-Muslim heritage. In a classic case of lies travelling further than the truth, this dubious claim from an already controversial think-tank was widely and overwhelmingly uncritically publicised – but its subsequent debunking attracted very little media attention.

In response to public concern, media pressure and, I suspect, its own immigration-related interests, the Government reportedly ordered civil servants to investigate the ethnic composition of “grooming gangs”. Many of the challenges encountered in doing so were entirely predictable and had been foreshadowed in much more rigorous prior research on child sexual abuse.

The eventual report – which the Government initially refused to publish – found no reliable evidence of ethnic or religious overrepresentation, concluding that “research has found that group-based offenders are most commonly White”. Notably, the Home Office’s accompanying literature review echoed concerns from our and others’ work about the dangers of racialising child sexual abuse and agreed that Quilliam’s infamous 84% statistic was simply not credible.


What followed emphasised that the “grooming gangs” stereotype serves powerful political interests and would not be conceded without a fight. In the report’s foreword, Home Secretary Priti Patel called the findings “disappointing”, implying that more and different data would confirm otherwise. Here, policy-led evidence production appears to trump evidence-led policymaking.

Shortly after, England’s first national strategy on child sexual abuse was released, singling out “grooming gangs” for special attention. In it, “grooming gangs” were the only form of offline abuse in the UK to be allocated special investigative funding and have “profiling” proposed as a necessary response.

Maintaining a focus on race/religion is a convenient distraction for a government responsible for sustained funding cuts to health, social care and community services: key components in responses to child sexual abuse. It also detracts from important questions around misogyny, class and victim blaming and how those in power respond to young people who do not present as ‘ideal victims’.

The intense focus on “Muslim grooming gangs” presents numerous mechanisms for causing harm, but there has been little rigorous research into its specific impacts to date. Overall, the stereotyping detracts from the diversity of child sexual abuse and the truly epidemic levels of its offending and victimisation. It can mean other abuses are deprioritised or overlooked.

Numerous victims and survivors have spoken out about feeling erased and invalidated because they were not abused by Muslim men, or having their stories hijacked and manipulated because they were. Racist stereotypes also harm the whole communities they stigmatise as deviant. Prejudicial stereotyping based on race and religion erodes trust in the criminal justice system.

In the busy media debate on “grooming gangs”, however, there has been little space or appetite for critical evaluation, dissent or correctives to misinformation. In parallel, offences conforming to stereotypes likely attract disproportionate coverage, thus fuelling the impression of a vast and growing problem. The intense focus on “grooming gangs” has undoubtedly influenced responses to child sexual exploitation, but in what ways and at what cost?

This seems awfully close to going full whataboutism about rape gangs
 
It's appropriate to call them “Muslim rape gangs” because that's exactly what they are. You might get the token non-muslim in there but they were overwhelmingly Pakistani with some Somali here and there, iirc. In any case, it's extremely relevant because the fact they were muslim is the actual and literal reason a blind-eye was turned to them. We know this for a fact, it's been demonstrated and admitted. And they specifically targeted non-muslim gangs.
 

Father-of-six is called 'disgusting' racist slurs in DVLA logbooks for a car he doesn't even own

A gym owner said he was left 'traumatised' by racist DVLA logbooks branding him a 'BLACK N****R P*SSY' for a car he doesn't even own.

Marvin Greaves, 40, says he received the 'depressing' letter last Wednesday with the sick 'racist' name in the letterhead.

The entrepreneur claims he does not own a vehicle, nor does he have a licence.

He believes the vehicle might have been stolen and registered under his name.


All right, which one of you lot works at the DVLA then?

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Typical establishment behaviour. I bet those coppers were blue lodge masons, told to go put the scarers on by the higher ups.

At best, UK police are cowardly overweight faggots. At worst, they're brainwashed limp-wristed actual faggots.

I've power-levelled before on this, but I've no confidence any of them are capable of investigating actual crimes. All the low-income faggots are capable of is investigating run-of-the-mill non-crimes, like people saying the wrong things on Twitter.

I unironically wish we were back in the times when a police officer was actually capable of beating you up.
 
Can someone provid a tldr for non bongs on why Boris is getting Caesar right now? I know about them trying to vote him out for partying during covid lockdown, but what else is causing this huge exodus of people from his party?

Partygate didn't help but if it were just that he wouldn't be leaving now. Partygate happened because winter (shock of all shocks) brought another Covid spike and it sounded like Boris was about to lock everything down again after the country mostly cleared half the lockdown nonsense. Partygate meant Boris was too busy trying to explain why Downing St could have an Xmas party when he'd told half of England they couldn't have a Christmas with their folks in 2020

What did him in was that the current Mistress got her claws into him proper and then managed to get an unofficial role in govt and generally most stories about her make her sound like an absolute shrew. Which also led to many of the pro-Brexit MP's quietly walking away as I recall. Also Boris has always been a bit of the sterotypical chancer politician, Brexit was the one thing he genuinely seemed passionate for and I think the main reason anyone wanted him as PM anyway. Even that he barely got over the line and it's still not really "sorted" anyway outside the UK having actually "left" - ho hum.

Then Boris basically fought to play keep away with America until the "safe 4 diplomacy" option got voted in and threw in with Biden early on. Apparently they forget that the US dems considered Brexit a bad thing but whatever. Reward is that Biden fucked up Afganistan withdrawal and mostly ignores the UK like Obama did where they could of made some nice trade deals with Trump, ah well.

Naturally now the conservatives throwing behind Rishi, who has never really much struck me as someone who would be good leading but might make a good puppet leader at best. Still better than Dementia Joe I suppose.
 
Guess Brits don't like trains.


Half of Britons are in favour of scrapping the HS2 project as costs continue to mount.

Around 52 per cent of those who voted Conservatives in the 2019 election are against the project, compared with 17 per cent who think the high-speed rail from London to the Midlands should go ahead, the Telegraph first reported.

“A majority of the British public and specifically 2019 Conservative voters want HS2 scrapped,” said a spokesperson for consultancy firm Redfield & Wilton, who carried the survey on 1,500 people.

The poll’s results come in the midst of the Tory leadership race, which sees former Chancellor Rishi Sunak as one of the main bidders.

Sunak has been in favour of the project and so has senior backbencher Tom Tugendhat, while Attorney General Suella Braverman – another contender – said ministers should ask whether the project is still “value for money.”

Among those who have yet to throw their hat in the ring, foreign secretary Liz Truss has deemed the project a “white elephant,” while Jeremy Hunt, Penny Mordaunt and Nadhim Zahawi were all in favour.

In March, then-HS2 minister Andrew Stephenson said he was concerned about the rate at which the project’s costs were soaring after the railway had taken a further £500m between September 2021 and January 2022.

Despite being a central of the Tory manifesto in the 2019 election, the government decided late last year to cut the eastern leg of HS2 – which connects Birmingham to Leeds – bringing about a wave of criticism from industry stakeholders, City A.M. reported.

 
Why dont they just focus on linking up Manchester to London properly first idk
You already can. It takes about two and a half hours from Manchester Piccadilly to London Euston currently.

One of the main complaints is this project is costing a lot, going to be smashing through certain areas while avoiding any disturbances in certain others, the implication it's going to benefit London more than anything (again!) and just piss poor planning (Train driver would have to literally run from one end of the train to the other at Piccadilly as it currently stands) all for a train journey that will take you to London less than 15 minutes faster.
 
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