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Yeah, they backpedaled after they saw that the law did absolutely nothing for the jab uptake.
Wuhan Coronavirus / COVID-19 Thread 2: Booster Shot - Resume all Corona sperging here.
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I saw a few articles about this, but it was a little difficult to follow since I have to rely on google translate (This is the original source apparently). It's definitely a major shift, they initially tried to mandate the jab, though they walked that back before it went into effect. Additionally it sounds like Australia is quietly walking back their mandates as well.
For other news about mandates, the Supreme Court refused to hear a case on religious exemptions in New York, so you can no longer request such exemptions.
In Florida Disney is getting sued over religious discrimination regarding their mandates.
Also if you are employed by the state of Washington, you are now subject to a permanent mandate, including as many boosters as the FDA and the governor demand.
Meanwhile Ohio may amend their constitution to prohibit vaccine mandates.
This has been making the rounds, but as many as 40k national guard members may be dismissed over the military mandates (I really hope these guardsmen stand their ground).
And China now seems to be implementing mandates, who knows why now.
Lastly Nature put out a news article recently trying to praise mandates, though they couldn't really say much more than "Well usually they forced people to take it". For being such a powerhouse of scientific publications, Nature's actually news articles are remarkably terrible.
Paxlovid is really highlighting how much power Pfizer seems to have over governments. Despite it doing jack shit for Fauci, the FDA has gone and done something I've never heard of before, allowing pharmacists to prescribe it. This really just seems insane to me. Additionally it looks like Germany is going to try and push for more people to take it as well.
As for the jabs, it looks like they got what the wanted in the Future Framework meeting and now won't need to provide any data for future jabs.
They also apparently lost the placebo group from the trial data when the FDA approved the jab for children 6 months to 5 years old. Their approval of jabs for the youngest seems to have even made the WSJ is question the FDA's judgement (though this is just an opinion piece, so they don't get too much credit)
Seems like a good time to highlight an article about the the corruption between drug regulators and drug manufacturers.
This was posted elsewhere, but Canada says you will need boosters every 9 months to remain "fully vaccinated". I find it hard to imagine people putting up with this, but I won't be surprised if Canada tries to tighten the screws on mandates.
On the science side, it looks like the vaccinated and boosted take longer to clear the virus than those who are unvaccinated (look at figures 1D and 1E). I did read an article a few weeks back that I've been thinking a lot about, and think this data support. Basically it's contextualizing the things we observe in the vaccinated in the context of a weakening response to the virus. They take longer to clear because their body is fighting it less effectively, but they also experience less severe disease despite higher viral loads (something I am personally still skeptical of) because their body is not fully responding to the virus. Those who had really severe disease may have been due to their immune systems overreacting, but now the vaccinated immune systems might be underreacting.
There is also a recent paper looking at the risk of autoimmunity after spike protein exposure. Basically they identify 16 potential proteins in the body that spike antibodies may react to, which would cause autoimmune disease if it occurs. It doesn't guarantee that autoimmune disease occurs, but it adds to the list of things we need to know before mass injections, not after.
Lastly I will mention that Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has passed away. He was the one who worked on early treatment protocols, including the combination of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc (which came to be known as the Zelenko protocol) and was throughout the pandemic an outspoken critic of what many governments and pharmaceutical companies were doing, including the vaccines. He had actually been suffering from terminal cancer for several years, but did not let that stop him from treating patients and standing up for what he felt was right during the pandemic.
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I'm not sure if I'm retarded, but is there a reason why I can't quote/reply to RiverFalcon's post #3446 above?
My response to that is this: It looks like there's now a clear divide between countries quietly receding their mandates (we'll see how long that lasts...) and countries doubling down on the bullshit.
If I were to consult my tinfoil hat, it might be an A/B test from the globohomos and their WEF plants in various governments to see how people react:
Singapore already mandated the 1st booster to be "fully vaccinated" since February this year (but only for locals and long-term residents; tourists have been able to enter and are considered "fully vaccinated" even without the booster). Conveniently, it has the same "9 month expiry" as mentioned Canada, and with over 70% of the population boosted since April (a lot of the dumbfuck sheep rushed for the booster way before expiry), we should be looking at whether they start "evaluating" the need for a 2nd booster for the entire population around September-November.
That's keeping in mind they've already rolled out the 2nd booster... first to those aged 80+ in April and recently to everyone above age 50 in June. This is the same rollout method they used to eventually force the original 2 doses of the vaccine and booster last year:
As of Feb 2022, there are "No plans to require second Covid-19 booster shot in Singapore".
Which is exactly what they said about the first booster in October ("Vaccination status in TraceTogether app will not change for those who take booster shots") before announcing in December that it would be required to maintain "fully vaccinated" status starting February.
Although the vaccine discrimination and Nazi Pass TraceTogether have been largely but not completely stood down since late April, many employers still require employees to be "fully vaccinated" because fuck you that's why. 3 months later, companies continue to point their finger at "Omg the government might require the vaccines again in the future so we're gonna continue discriminating you just in case"
One oddity I'm still trying to wrap my head around is Indonesia. They've continued vaccine discrimination and their mandates even while neighboring countries like Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia were reducing restrictions and dropping theirs between March-May.
Just earlier this week on Tuesday, they decided to up their discrimination game and added a booster requirement to be "fully vaccinated" and vaccine discrimination continues at both border and ground level - the Indonesian Nazi Pass officers continue to check and scan the "contact tracing" Nazi Pass Peduli Lindungi in malls, offices, etc. Compare that to Singapore where people still need to be "fully vaccinated" to eat in restaurants but businesses haven't bothered to check and discriminate since the Nazi Pass Trace Together scanning requirement was removed in late April. Then again, Indonesia has a dogshit booster shot rate of 24.6% as of this month, while Singapore has tons of obedient sheep and 78% boosted.
I'm curious to see how that plays out since Indonesia is technically the poorest and most corrupt out of the 4, and is the most restricted. It makes a good bit of money from tourism and its direct competitor for tourists, Thailand, is now 100% back to normal. Then again, 4 of the top 5 countries (Singapore, Malaysia, China, Australia, and Japan) who visit Indonesia are filled with sheep who complied with mandates and got their vaccines, so maybe it's not impacting them too much.
My response to that is this: It looks like there's now a clear divide between countries quietly receding their mandates (we'll see how long that lasts...) and countries doubling down on the bullshit.
If I were to consult my tinfoil hat, it might be an A/B test from the globohomos and their WEF plants in various governments to see how people react:
- Canada (many mandates, strict enforcement, strongarm tactics, huge WEF asskisser)
- USA (mandates existed, some continue to exist but not really enforced)
- Mexico (mandates never really enforced, and now completely lifted)
- Singapore (many mandates, strict enforcement, strongarm tactics, huge WEF asskisser)
- Malaysia (mandates existed, some continue to exist but not really enforced)
- Thailand (mandates never really enforced, and now completely lifted)
You can get your spoilers for Canada by looking at Singapore.
Singapore already mandated the 1st booster to be "fully vaccinated" since February this year (but only for locals and long-term residents; tourists have been able to enter and are considered "fully vaccinated" even without the booster). Conveniently, it has the same "9 month expiry" as mentioned Canada, and with over 70% of the population boosted since April (a lot of the dumbfuck sheep rushed for the booster way before expiry), we should be looking at whether they start "evaluating" the need for a 2nd booster for the entire population around September-November.
That's keeping in mind they've already rolled out the 2nd booster... first to those aged 80+ in April and recently to everyone above age 50 in June. This is the same rollout method they used to eventually force the original 2 doses of the vaccine and booster last year:
- Before Feb 2021: Covid vaccination being "evaluated" for at risk groups
- Feb-Mar 2021: Vaccinations "recommended" for at risk groups (old people in their 70s and 80s, healthcare workers, etc)
- Apr-Jul 2021: Vaccinations availability for people 60+, then 50+, then 40+ and then everyone
- Aug 2021:
- Vaccination "encouraged" but totally voluntary for everyone.
- Vaccination discrimination starts with "no jab, no restaurants"
- Sep 2021-Feb 2022: Vaccination discrimination gradually expanded to become "no jab, no job, no visa, no restaurants/cafes, no hawker centers/street food, no malls, no cinemas, no gyms, no indoor sports, no tourist attractions (including museums and cable cars), no being visited/visiting at the hospital, no hotels, no staycations, pay out of pocket if you get hospitalized for the coof"
Note that article was originally published with the title "Experts discuss need for additional booster shots, threat of non-Covid-19 diseases" before they changed it to "Will we need more booster shots? What's known so far about 'Deltacron'? Here's what experts say"
As of Feb 2022, there are "No plans to require second Covid-19 booster shot in Singapore".
Which is exactly what they said about the first booster in October ("Vaccination status in TraceTogether app will not change for those who take booster shots") before announcing in December that it would be required to maintain "fully vaccinated" status starting February.
Although the vaccine discrimination and Nazi Pass TraceTogether have been largely but not completely stood down since late April, many employers still require employees to be "fully vaccinated" because fuck you that's why. 3 months later, companies continue to point their finger at "Omg the government might require the vaccines again in the future so we're gonna continue discriminating you just in case"
One oddity I'm still trying to wrap my head around is Indonesia. They've continued vaccine discrimination and their mandates even while neighboring countries like Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia were reducing restrictions and dropping theirs between March-May.
Just earlier this week on Tuesday, they decided to up their discrimination game and added a booster requirement to be "fully vaccinated" and vaccine discrimination continues at both border and ground level - the Indonesian Nazi Pass officers continue to check and scan the "contact tracing" Nazi Pass Peduli Lindungi in malls, offices, etc. Compare that to Singapore where people still need to be "fully vaccinated" to eat in restaurants but businesses haven't bothered to check and discriminate since the Nazi Pass Trace Together scanning requirement was removed in late April. Then again, Indonesia has a dogshit booster shot rate of 24.6% as of this month, while Singapore has tons of obedient sheep and 78% boosted.
I'm curious to see how that plays out since Indonesia is technically the poorest and most corrupt out of the 4, and is the most restricted. It makes a good bit of money from tourism and its direct competitor for tourists, Thailand, is now 100% back to normal. Then again, 4 of the top 5 countries (Singapore, Malaysia, China, Australia, and Japan) who visit Indonesia are filled with sheep who complied with mandates and got their vaccines, so maybe it's not impacting them too much.
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Qatari cohort study finds "very strong" and prolonged "protection against severe reinfection, with no evidence for waning, irrespective of variant" after primary COVID infection
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@ToxicKek There's a bug where you can't reply to long posts.
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Australia isn't really walking anything back, they are still going full retard on the 'get the jab/the jab will save you' (wear a mask, you'll need 4 or more hands, to count how many of your friends are sick), and many, many people still believe it all, even when people are dropping like flies around them. They are lining up to get more, many saying they will get as many as they tell us to.
Jabs for healthcare workers are still mandatory; other industries, yes it's not government mandated but they are now just putting all the risk and blame onto individual businesses, by leaving it up to them. The govt can throw their hands in the air and say 'wasn't us', while more and more businesses collapse as their staff are continuously sick, and people stop supporting them.
Our major supermarkets (of which there are literally two) have mandated it country wide, so not even unjabbed plebs can get jobs any longer, can't even stack shelves.
The imbecile who runs Victoria has even now stated on record, that teachers don't have to disclose jab status (unjab teachers are allowed to go back to work in Victoria), he has said that it's private information...
Jabs for healthcare workers are still mandatory; other industries, yes it's not government mandated but they are now just putting all the risk and blame onto individual businesses, by leaving it up to them. The govt can throw their hands in the air and say 'wasn't us', while more and more businesses collapse as their staff are continuously sick, and people stop supporting them.
Our major supermarkets (of which there are literally two) have mandated it country wide, so not even unjabbed plebs can get jobs any longer, can't even stack shelves.
The imbecile who runs Victoria has even now stated on record, that teachers don't have to disclose jab status (unjab teachers are allowed to go back to work in Victoria), he has said that it's private information...
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I know of quite a few people that are positive, at the mo. Flippin' loads compared to the OG wave and Omicron etc that followed before this latest wave. The figures being touted in the press are going to be way lower than what they are on the ground as those i know are throwing a positive and taking some days off work and that's it. Nobody is reporting to central command or getting tested at an official test center.
The youngest is in the 20's and the oldest is nearly 102! and there isn't much of a difference, in numbers, between fully and zero vaxxed and previous positive, or not. Another difference, between now and the other waves, is all these positives are close contacts/family and not friend of a friend whos brothers sister is sick.
The main thing is that not one of these people are in any way really ill. One had enormous headaches and was a bit hot for a day, and the really old had a bit off a cough, initially, but tbh that is not out of the ordinary. The most common symptom seems to be either very nearly sweet fuck all, or something that hayfever might throw at you. Itchy eyes, stuffy nose etc.
Seeing that i know more people throwing positives, yet others in even closer contact to them aren't positive, and we are actually experiencing a summer in the UK with nice hot weather and winds, while the farmers are out making hay, i wonder as i have done previously, during covid summers, that the symptoms are just fucking hayfever and the positive tests are saying, yeah you have covid but don't fucking worry about it.
I have to add that most of the positives i know are living rural lives surrounded by farmers working like mad, while the weather is so good. I know city and town dwellers, too, that also seem to be getting harder hit, this time around, and it is the same amongst them. Brief symptoms have been headaches, the shits and lethargy. Again all normal symptoms of typical summer illnesses(and other times of year) caused by all the normal bugs, allergies and viruses we are surrounded by.
I am still unvaxxed. It took some ducking and diving but i am still here and have been in very close contact with several of the above while they were positive. I have still not tested positive, or felt any more unwell than i might at various times and i have had verious tests done, here and there.
Am convinced that in the autumn of 2019 i had version1.0 as i was very unwell, for quite along time, with breathing probs and serious lethargy. It was worringly bad, at times, and not like anything i have had before. I shifted it but then was the same again, for a while, before covid became a thing, and saw that off after far less debilitating symptoms.
One day i might get round to doing an antibody test but can't say i am that bothered to do that. It really does mean fuck all tbh.
The youngest is in the 20's and the oldest is nearly 102! and there isn't much of a difference, in numbers, between fully and zero vaxxed and previous positive, or not. Another difference, between now and the other waves, is all these positives are close contacts/family and not friend of a friend whos brothers sister is sick.
The main thing is that not one of these people are in any way really ill. One had enormous headaches and was a bit hot for a day, and the really old had a bit off a cough, initially, but tbh that is not out of the ordinary. The most common symptom seems to be either very nearly sweet fuck all, or something that hayfever might throw at you. Itchy eyes, stuffy nose etc.
Seeing that i know more people throwing positives, yet others in even closer contact to them aren't positive, and we are actually experiencing a summer in the UK with nice hot weather and winds, while the farmers are out making hay, i wonder as i have done previously, during covid summers, that the symptoms are just fucking hayfever and the positive tests are saying, yeah you have covid but don't fucking worry about it.
I have to add that most of the positives i know are living rural lives surrounded by farmers working like mad, while the weather is so good. I know city and town dwellers, too, that also seem to be getting harder hit, this time around, and it is the same amongst them. Brief symptoms have been headaches, the shits and lethargy. Again all normal symptoms of typical summer illnesses(and other times of year) caused by all the normal bugs, allergies and viruses we are surrounded by.
I am still unvaxxed. It took some ducking and diving but i am still here and have been in very close contact with several of the above while they were positive. I have still not tested positive, or felt any more unwell than i might at various times and i have had verious tests done, here and there.
Am convinced that in the autumn of 2019 i had version1.0 as i was very unwell, for quite along time, with breathing probs and serious lethargy. It was worringly bad, at times, and not like anything i have had before. I shifted it but then was the same again, for a while, before covid became a thing, and saw that off after far less debilitating symptoms.
One day i might get round to doing an antibody test but can't say i am that bothered to do that. It really does mean fuck all tbh.
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I think I have mentioned this is this thread before, but I developed psoriasis shortly after being vax raped the second time (yes I am a sheep who needed my job, I get it) and I have been to see a dermatologist who dismissed it like its a minor rash, even though its spreading and I am going fucking insane with the itching. He prescribed something that doesn't work, and I guess my question is, has anyone else heard about this happening to people? Am I just an unfortunate soul who despite having no skin or auto immune issues in my life before, and no family history; just developed it out of the blue?
I know this fucked up communist wannabe country I live in (Chinada), is totally going to push mandatory boosters come fall, and I am hoping I can use this as a convenient excuse not to get it again. However knowing Canada and the WEF puppet Turdeau, I probably wont have a choice short of finding an american to marry.
I know this fucked up communist wannabe country I live in (Chinada), is totally going to push mandatory boosters come fall, and I am hoping I can use this as a convenient excuse not to get it again. However knowing Canada and the WEF puppet Turdeau, I probably wont have a choice short of finding an american to marry.
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Yes, I know someone who has had severe psoriasis since taking the vaccine. I think its one of the more common side effects.
Kršćanin Čendlervic
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I’m not 100% sure it’s psoriasis, but I had a similar situation with my earlobes getting disgustingly crusty for several months after my vaccine.
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Dude. It's China. You pet has more rights than you do there.
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Because apparently, people in Southeast Asia loves following the rules if they think their government is clean.
In Malaysia, there was a gold rush for data when the nation's vaccine certificate / mobility app was made mandatory, up until the point where unknown-until-now private companies start suing each other out of nowhere. As a result, trust in the app dropped, and the government was forced to remove some rules.
Meanwhile, since Indonesia and Singapore has no such controversies, their citizens comply with whatever rules their government make up.
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The guys of American Thinker blogged a good rant about where to follow the covid money.
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My friend who had bad reactions to both initial vaccine doses and got boosted because her employer said she had to to go to Disneyland just got a diagnosis that she's 90%+ infertile. In the vaccine's defense, she's been trying for a baby since well before Covid.
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Archived and grabbed relevant images:
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Part 2 (since archive won't grab all of miles long twitter threads properly):
Archive of the quoted tweet from the embalmer's mother:
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If she's been trying for a good while, it's likely she was already infertile. It'd be more of a smoking gun if she'd previously had documentation of good reproductive health. A good few vaccinated folks have popped out kids, now, so I don't think the vaccines are causing wholesale infertility.
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Well my GF pressured by her family got double injected and boosted and I can confirmed it does jack shit on not catching it, just off the phone with her and this the is 5th time she's caught it since January. The test keep coming back negative but everyone around her comes back positive so idk.
Whereas myself who never got injected once and has been spat at, bitten and in fights (security is fun) with people with covid, have not caught it once. So my irl experience has confirmed that the injections are more than useless and harmful.
Whereas myself who never got injected once and has been spat at, bitten and in fights (security is fun) with people with covid, have not caught it once. So my irl experience has confirmed that the injections are more than useless and harmful.
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Even if the vaccines were completely safe (which they obviously aren't), I would never want to take something that wasn't well tested because if something bad happens like infertility, YOU MAY NEVER KNOW if it was that crazy experimental drug you took, or if you were going to have that problem anyway.
It seems like so many people with problems after the vax are happy to think it's unrelated, but if I had taken the vax and something happened, I would sure fucking wonder til the end of my days.
I agree with you, but I also think if you take mystery juice that renders you infertile, you probably didn't need to be having kids in the first place, so I'm torn on the matter.
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And if the vaccines alter the DNA and cause infertility in their children?