I hate pro-bughive channels

[Sanity]

1) The fact that bikes are miserable in rain and downright dangeorus in snow/ice, making them useless for months at a time unless you live in California or the South.

Rain is for sure annoying, even with adequate protection. But snow is cleared from roads in any civilized European country. You don't have this in the US in urban and suburban areas, really?

2) Even in places with little rain or snow, hot weather and the sun makes it miserable to ride for long periods.

I personally enjoy it.

3) You can't carry shit on a bike.

You know you can attach big pouches and baskets to your bike? You can also attach toddler seats in the back. But it's not adapted for heavy objects like furniture. Paying 1 or 2 times a year to get a heavy object delivered to your place is nothing compared to gas and car insurance.

4) Bikes are slow and limit the distance you can travel compared to a car

Yes, but you can take them in the train if you need to go to another city. There are also foldable bikes that you can take in buses and in the subway.

5) Bikes make you much more vulnerable to crime/mugging/assault since they are relatively slow and leave you physically exposed.

>what is car jacking
Even if cars do better, bikes are still leagues better than public transportation in terms of safety. You don't hear about cyclist women getting raped, compared to unfortunate women getting raped in the subway.

About the only actual benefit to a bicycle is that its cheap to buy, low maintenance, and doesn't need license or insurance.

Yes, and doesn't need gas, which the price keeps rising over and over. You're treating it like it's not a big deal, but it fucking is. By not buying a car and all the expenses that go with it, you can save up so much more money, that you can use to buy a house afterwards.

You also conveniently brushed off the pollution aspect of cars. It's not only about greenhouse effect gas, but also microparticles that they relese in the air. It's a major health issue, especially in cities where traffic is jammed up. People using bikes actually make cities more breathable for the average human. Bikes are also smaller than 4 seats cars used by a single person, so it's better to facilitate traffic.

If you live in the countryside, you absolutely need a car tho. But pro-bughive channels are city dwellers oriented content, so I was mostly referring to bikes in an urban environnement. In the countrysides bikes are mostly for weekend family outings in nature.

I think the ideal setting would be to have one car per (urban) family instead of two. You need them to carry heavy objects, transport several kids at the same time, and for some long distance trips not covered by public transportation, that can be unreliable : think about covid restrictions. Cars are still necessary because why would you rely exclusively on a state dependant service for long distance travel?

I think bike culture in Europe and in the US is very different. We tend to be way more casual about it and treat it like another transportation device, instead of making a bid deal about them.

 

[Sanity]

I don't understand how all these urban hive-types expect to deal with manufacturing, warehousing, and industry. By necessity, factories and warehouses tend to be sprawling complexes and they usually have large lots. If you have an industrial area in a city, how are you honestly supposed to handle these workers? We don't live in the days of factory towns, a lot of times factories are, by zoning regulations, separated from residential areas. Unless you're lucky to live and work in a border section, walking or biking would be impractical and unpleasant no matter how "people-centric" the road's designs are.

Even if the bus stop is right out front of your work, which is highly unlikely, the buses won't run constantly. Are workers on 12 hour shifts supposed to show up to work an extra hour early because of the bus schedule, and wait around for another stretch? Not to mention any extra time from any potential changeovers and then walking time because their homes likely won't be directly on top of the bus stop.

As someone who has worked almost solely in manufacturing and warehousing work, I just don't get it. The idea of just taking jobs which almost universally have shitty schedules, uncomfortable working conditions, and high amounts of physical effort needed and just piling more bullshit onto it is insane. These urbanists are basically going "Aight, now you have to wait at work longer and walk a mile from the bus stop to get home because we need to make this city walkable for me!"

There used to be buses appointed by companies to transport workers from city or village centers to the factory. They were scheduled according to their shifts. This is how it worked in the 50's and 60's there. Factories have been around since the XVIIIth century, don't you think that people had ways to commute before cars were affordable for the working class? These accomodations were dropped when people didn't need them anymore. But with recent environmental and health concerns, they could come back.

Plane transportation is way worse for the environment than cars tho. I wish upper class bughive cultists would stop shitting on the average proletarian that have to use a car to go to work to his factory, and start screeching at rich people that use planes several times a year... This hypocrisy is what I hate about anti car content.

 

[Dagobert]

There used to be buses appointed by companies to transport workers from city or village centers to the factory. They were scheduled according to their shifts. This is how it worked in the 50's and 60's there. Factories have been around since the XVIIIth century, don't you think that people had ways to commute before cars were affordable for the working class? These accomodations were dropped when people didn't need them anymore. But with recent environmental and health concerns, they could come back.

Plane transportation is way worse for the environment than cars tho. I wish upper class bughive cultists would stop shitting on the average proletarian that have to use a car to go to work to his factory, and start screeching at rich people that use planes several times a year... This hypocrisy is what I hate about anti car content.

Yes, those things existed and to some degree still exist. But in order to bring them back, you have to actively decrease the quality of living and reduce the autonomy of people who work in some of the worst jobs this country has to offer. Even if a chartered bus system exists, which I fucking guarantee it won't most of the time, you will still have at least four waiting periods of variable length (waiting for the local bus, waiting for the charter bus in central hub, waiting for the charter bus to leave the factory, waiting for local bus in central hub) for these bus routes and increased commute time.

Again, the idea is just piling on bullshit onto people who already receive too much. All such a system would be is decreasing morale in an already low morale field. It is literally the worst thing you could do.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

5 over 1 apartments suck, but townhouses and duplexes are cool

 

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

BUGHIVE FIGHT!

Both are NPCs, but seeing bugs chew each other's wings off is fun.

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

Rain is for sure annoying, even with adequate protection. But snow is cleared from roads in any civilized European country. You don't have this in the US in urban and suburban areas, really?

> Gets cleared, turns to ice due to it still being fuckin cold.

I personally enjoy it.

That's nice we aren't euro-bug men though.

You know you can attach big pouches and baskets to your bike? You can also attach toddler seats in the back. But it's not adapted for heavy objects like furniture. Paying 1 or 2 times a year to get a heavy object delivered to your place is nothing compared to gas and car insurance.

You ever actually go to the grocery store? You don't do you? Mommy buys everything and brings it home I bet.

>what is car jacking
Even if cars do better, bikes are still leagues better than public transportation in terms of safety. You don't hear about cyclist women getting raped, compared to unfortunate women getting raped in the subway.

You are a fucking idiot.

Yes, and doesn't need gas, which the price keeps rising over and over. You're treating it like it's not a big deal, but it fucking is. By not buying a car and all the expenses that go with it, you can save up so much more money, that you can use to buy a house afterwards.

Fuck your rape hives.

I think the ideal setting would be to have one car per (urban) family instead of two. You need them to carry heavy objects, transport several kids at the same time, and for some long distance trips not covered by public transportation, that can be unreliable : think about covid restrictions. Cars are still necessary because why would you rely exclusively on a state dependant service for long distance travel?

Everything you're saying till that point tells me you're either full of shit, a liar, or a troll.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

You know what's really based? Living somewhere unreachable by public transit so pleb pedestrians and cycle cucks can't make it up here.

 

[mario if smoke weed]

You know what's really based? Living somewhere unreachable by public transit so pleb pedestrians and cycle cucks can't make it up here.

Just live in Death Valley or the Everglades and no cuck will ever show up at your doorstep, problem solved.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Just live in Death Valley or the Everglades and no cuck will ever show up at your doorstep, problem solved.

That's the idea. If they make it to my doorstep in one piece that means they got past the wolves and the swamp witch, and no cuck is capable of such a feat.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

Just live in Death Valley or the Everglades and no cuck will ever show up at your doorstep, problem solved.

I know this is an April Fools post, but I'd like to know where I can find a suitable place to live where there aren't any cuckold sluts in their 30s with weak dicks.

Of course, I might just have given them the tip-off so the entire USA could become a cuckold-free zone.

All I know is that I'll be riding bullet. Women were the number one great thing about the 20th Century, now that the 21st is here and the third-wave feminist SJW has taken control of them, it's time to just focus on my 7" goods, call up Lacey Duvalle and Jada Fire to give me two hours of pure bliss, bet queening I have the president in my economic and political service, and relax in my pathetic life like a man...where you LISTEN to Scott and Sam instead of the ever-incompetent "high preistess of quran's words" Lacy Love...$100,000 and you cannot live without women.

 

[mario if smoke weed]

I know this is an April Fools post, but I'd like to know where I can find a suitable place to live where there aren't any cuckold sluts in their 30s with weak dicks.

Of course, I might just have given them the tip-off so the entire USA could become a cuckold-free zone.

All I know is that I'll be riding bullet. Women were the number one great thing about the 20th Century, now that the 21st is here and the third-wave feminist SJW has taken control of them, it's time to just focus on my 7" goods, call up Lacey Duvalle and Jada Fire to give me two hours of pure bliss, bet queening I have the president in my economic and political service, and relax in my pathetic life like a man...where you LISTEN to Scott and Sam instead of the ever-incompetent "high preistess of quran's words" Lacy Love...$100,000 and you cannot live without women.

Mississippi

 

[Becky McDonald]

I very much appreciate this thread being created.

These people are the latest offspring of the very same green crazies that our schools and actual scientists have had to put up with for the past 30 - 40 years. They were definitely fed Moore & Gore documentaries all throughout their childhood, and probably grew up thinking they'd never get old enough to actually reach adulthood because their country would be underwater/burned to a crisp by the sun, so have a permanent childlike outlook on the world.

Pocket tyrants, to sum them up in two words. They use the excuse of altruism to make life miserable for the rest of us, since we never drank the same Kool-Aid that they did. They want us to be miserable because they grew up miserable due to the aforementioned doom porn fucking up their brain during development.

One thing unites them equally; they will NEVER go after a government or large corporation. Partly because they're scared, and partly because even if they could, it wouldn't give them the same feeling of power as dictating the lives of those who never cared about them when they were young.

90% of them couldn't give a shit about improving transport infrastructure and making the world a greener place; they just want those who used to look down upon them to suffer. They want the Chad who stole their possible girlfriend with his dad's Trans-Am to be forced to ride the bus. They want the soccer mom who ran over their basketball keeling her huge frame over on a bicycle. They want power, but don't actually want to put in the work to get that power, so want to push those who they view have more power than them down to their level, and below.

As a wise anon on cuckchan's /o/ once said, these people are bullies at their core, but lack the body and presence to actually be one. Instead of slapping, they worm their way into positions of power and legislate.

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[Chuck McGill]

I very much appreciate this thread being created.

These people are the latest offspring of the very same green crazies that our schools and actual scientists have had to put up with for the past 30 - 40 years. They were definitely fed Moore & Gore documentaries all throughout their childhood, and probably grew up thinking they'd never get old enough to actually reach adulthood because their country would be underwater/burned to a crisp by the sun, so have a permanent childlike outlook on the world.

Pocket tyrants, to sum them up in two words. They use the excuse of altruism to make life miserable for the rest of us, since we never drank the same Kool-Aid that they did. They want us to be miserable because they grew up miserable due to the aforementioned doom porn fucking up their brain during development.

One thing unites them equally; they will NEVER go after a government or large corporation. Partly because they're scared, and partly because even if they could, it wouldn't give them the same feeling of power as dictating the lives of those who never cared about them when they were young.

90% of them couldn't give a shit about improving transport infrastructure and making the world a greener place; they just want those who used to look down upon them to suffer. They want the Chad who stole their possible girlfriend with his dad's Trans-Am to be forced to ride the bus. They want the soccer mom who ran over their basketball keeling her huge frame over on a bicycle. They want power, but don't actually want to put in the work to get that power, so want to push those who they view have more power than them down to their level, and below.

As a wise anon on cuckchan's /o/ once said, these people are bullies at their core, but lack the body and presence to actually be one. Instead of slapping, they worm their way into positions of power and legislate.

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I'm glad someone other than me notices the malice present in these people if you scratch the surface just a little bit. It's funny your copypasta should mention Greta Thunberg, because she is a fucking template for how these people behave. They like to act as though their scheme to build trains everywhere and get everyone to live in hypercrowded cities is "for the good of everyone and you'll be so much happier if you just tried it uwu". But show them a guy driving a truck and you will watch their real feelings come out. They'll cheer for the gas prices he has to pay and insist they should be even higher. They'll insist his truck should be subject to the most stringent traffic laws on Earth and should be condemned a priori for any collision with a cyclist or pedestrian. They'll sneer at his truck and tell him it's because he's a Dolan Drumpf supporter with a tiny penis. And this would all be fine were it not for the fact that towns and cities are starting to listen to these mini-dictators and their fancy buzzwords.

Also never bullying corporations is spot on. Companies like Amazon and Wal-Mart take advantage of the interstate system, cause 99% of the road's wear and tear with their huge fuck-off trucks and don't even come close to paying it back in taxes. But of course nobody mentions this bit of corporate welfare, the problem is that I don't live like a peasant!

 

[Becky McDonald]

I'm glad someone other than me notices the malice present in these people if you scratch the surface just a little bit. It's funny your copypasta should mention Greta Thunberg, because she is a fucking template for how these people behave. They like to act as though their scheme to build trains everywhere and get everyone to live in hypercrowded cities is "for the good of everyone and you'll be so much happier if you just tried it uwu". But show them a guy driving a truck and you will watch their real feelings come out. They'll cheer for the gas prices he has to pay and insist they should be even higher. They'll insist his truck should be subject to the most stringent traffic laws on Earth and should be automatically condemned a priori for any collision with a cyclist or pedestrian. They'll sneer at his truck and tell him it's because he's a Dolan Drumpf supporter with a tiny penis. And this would all be fine were it not for the fact that towns and cities are starting to listen to these mini-dictators and their fancy buzzwords.

Also never bullying corporations is spot on. Companies like Amazon and Wal-Mart take advantage of the interstate system, cause 99% of the road's wear and tear with their huge fuck-off trucks and don't even come close to paying it back in taxes. But of course nobody mentions this bit of corporate welfare, the problem is that I don't live like a peasant!

Precisely!

They keep up this weird facade where they act all kind and benevolent and assure the people that what they're doing/introducing is for, as you said, "the good of everyone". That it will never affect their lives negatively, and you have absolutely zero reason to rally against it. And so long as the people do as they say, nothing bad happens. Like Scorpio in Dirty Harry.

But.
The SECOND you choose not to partake in their game. The second you personally feel your life will be better by disregarding their advice, you are in for a world of hurt.

• Going to a fast food restaurant and ordering a plain chicken/beef burger? Why? Do you want to contribute to global warming? What's wrong with a vegan burger, they taste exactly the same, even meat eaters on YouTube say they do! Why don't you want to eat the synthetic meat?
• Learning to drive? What for? We'll make sure car travel is banned for normal people in the next 20 years anyway, so there's really no need to do that. A car is toxically masculine, anyway, and I thought we put enough xenoestrogens in the water supply to take care of those impulses. Just use an e-scooter or a bicycle or an Uber.
• Huh? You don't actually care about the planet? You should, because in (5 - 10 years from now), you'll be underwater/burning to a crisp/freezing to death! Hahahahaha!
• Having children? But why? You should adopt a child from Africa instead. Your child won't have a childhood because they'll die due to climate change, so you should sacrifice your adulthood and make it miserable by sterilising yourself.
• What, you actually like cars? What media indoctrinated you into that norm? You should hate them! We are real people who grew to dislike them because that's the natural order of things, and you're just a sad oil consoomer who watched too many Fast & Furious movies!

I've seen the last point in particular quite a lot as of late, without a spot of irony. Because absolutely nothing told them to hate cars growing up. They certainly never watched any documentaries, or partook in any little envirotardist workshops ran by grifters at their school. No, what they feel is genuine, and if you don't feel that way, you're a big oil shill hopelessly brainwashed by Big Everything!

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

i love wrecking my several thousand dollar car into things and also having expensive medical bills and property damage suits against me to deal with as well

Same, that's why I drive a Tacoma. You can't tell the difference if you run over someone or if you're off-roading

 

[AnimeGirlConnoisseur]

Apologize for the upcoming schizopost

I started watching some of these channels awhile ago just out boredom. I think it was because I got really interested in Soviet public housing for awhile, but it took awhile for me to realize that this was all just leftist bugmen faggotry. I mean, I thought that this was just apolitical civil-engineering stuff and that they made some good points, but I eventually realized that, when you got right down to it, everything boiled down to cars being evil. Not just gas-burning cars, but all of them. I think they just want us to live in inner cities and use either walking, bikes, or public transportation. Now, I think that if someone can't afford a car or doesn't want to use one, we should try to accommodate them to some degree (bike lanes and public transportation are actually good things), but they just want to get rid of cars. The car is the most uncucked form of transportation (with the possible exception of the para-motor) in America, and empowers individual; lets them go wherever they want whenever they want. I think it's as almost as important for securing our freedom as guns are. Without cars we only have bikes, feet, and public transportation (which the government ultimately controls). These people are probably just useful idiots, but the end goal of their ideology is limiting our freedom of movement.

 

[mr.moon1488]

BUGHIVE FIGHT!

Both are NPCs, but seeing bugs chew each other's wings off is fun.

Grid cities are fine, and concentric cities are fine. Concentric comes from France at its peak, and the grid comes from no shit the Roman empire. Both worked fine. The reason US cities are shit is because of niggers. No one in any of the cities they're talking about are complaining about the additional 1-degree Fahrenheit heat caused by the number of black asphalt roads in their direct vicinity. They're complaining about how many times they were raped by Tyrone while riding on the subway, or how many of bubba-john's smack needles they've gotten in their feet while going to get the morning paper.

 

[Webdriver Torso]

First off, I largely agree with many of Adam Somethings' points.

What I don't agree with, however, is his glorifying of bughive shit.
He claims that quality of life in a big city is so much better than in suburbs, because you have all amenities close to you.
You know what you also have close to you? At least 8 other households let's say in a commie block. Chances are extremely high that you will have a schizo next to you in some way that keeps you up at night or any other nuisance. The mental health argument goes straight out the window then.

Also, his neurotic hate of cars is misplaced for everyone that doesn't subscribe to the bughive ideal. Myself included.
I live in a rural area, the public transport situation is as follows: buses go like every two hours and due to the amount of stops it takes 4 times longer than me just driving my car to work.
Trains aren't even possible because of elevation where I live, the next train station is 8 miles away in the forest.

Yet these "urban planners" seem to have no clues of the real world and seem to think you can solve every problem with public transport.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

I despise urban sprawl. That's why I moved out to a medium sized city that was far away from the population centers. It has a decent bus system so I could commute by bus if I wanted to, enough stores close by so I could walk if I wanted to, and enough interesting shit to see within car range. Say you wanted to go to a hobby store in a sprawling industrial center. You have to drive to some mall in a sprawling shopping complex in the middle of nowhere only to find that the hobby store is out of what you wanted. Welp, time to drive another 20 miles to the next shopping center to try their hobby store.

But if you live in a self-contained, medium sized city, you'll find the hobby store you want right off of the main strip, and it'll probably have what you want because you're competing for it with a much smaller population. Thrift stores and overstock stores will also have a healthy selection for this reason as well. Apt. rent will also be a hundred bucks cheaper because everyone wants to "live in the big city where there are things to do." Sure, big cities will have a larger selection of stuff to do and more restaurants, but you can always daytrip to them. Smaller cities also have better parks and more wildlife, if you're into that sort of thing.

I don't get why people either need to live in Bughive Central, or in the middle of Sticksville. You could have the best of both worlds if you're willing to live with moderation.

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

I despise urban sprawl. That's why I moved out to a medium sized city that was far away from the population centers. It has a decent bus system so I could commute by bus if I wanted to, enough stores close by so I could walk if I wanted to, and enough interesting shit to see within car range. Say you wanted to go to a hobby store in a sprawling industrial center. You have to drive to some mall in a sprawling shopping complex in the middle of nowhere only to find that the hobby store is out of what you wanted. Welp, time to drive another 20 miles to the next shopping center to try their hobby store.

But if you live in a self-contained, medium sized city, you'll find the hobby store you want right off of the main strip, and it'll probably have what you want because you're competing for it with a much smaller population. Thrift stores and overstock stores will also have a healthy selection for this reason as well. Apt. rent will also be a hundred bucks cheaper because everyone wants to "live in the big city where there are things to do." Sure, big cities will have a larger selection of stuff to do and more restaurants, but you can always daytrip to them. Smaller cities also have better parks and more wildlife, if you're into that sort of thing.

I don't get why people either need to live in Bughive Central, or in the middle of Sticksville. You could have the best of both worlds if you're willing to live with moderation.

Because that area is just soon to be acquired by the hive, you buy more time in the sticks.