Shinzo Abe Assassination

[Meth Until Death]

Righto, you're someone who has to manually breath. Keep choofing along there squirt

 

[Kulee Baba]

Having pondered this case, I find some aspects of the official story a bit hard to believe. My main questions are:

How was Yamakami so accurate? Was he able to train somehow?

You may not think that hitting someone 10 feet away requires much accuracy, but this guy had a lot of factors working against him. His gun had no sights and was probably uncomfortable to hold and fire, it was a shotgun which means high recoil, and his barrels and projectiles weren't precision-engineered at all. I would also expect him to be extremely nervous. All of this could be overcome with practice, especially practice using his homemade guns, but did he have any ability to do so? Beginning shooters are often all over the place when using pistols at 10 feet, pistols which have much better ergonomics and less recoil than that taped-together contraption.

He did serve in the naval SDF, but that was in the mid-2000s. It's likely that he had some opportunity to practice shooting, but most militaries require only the bare minimum of training for anybody not expected to see ground combat. Given he was a sailor and Japan's aversion to guns, I would expect he only did a few qualification sessions with their standard issue rifle. Did he have any other chances to practice? He would have had to drive out to the woods somewhere as far away from other people as possible to train with that gun without risking discovery. It seems improbable that he could build the gun, never fire it before July 8th, and shoot as effectively as he was able to.

Another question I haven't heard a definitive answer to: Was he firing some kind of shot (like fishing weights) or slugs as wide as the bore?

Lastly, and this is total conjecture, here's a possible alternate scenario.

Someone grooms Yamakami, exploits whatever weird political beliefs he has to convince him that he's being recruited by a "good guy" faction inside the government that agrees with his views. Gives him a mission to hit Abe. They give him that gun, loaded with gunpowder and shot... which are actually blanks. Just wads of paper that will burst when he fires. At Abe's speech, the actual shooter is located somewhere behind Yamakami, using a professionally-made shotgun loaded with slugs and with plenty of time to aim. Maybe using a suppressor too so the only sounds come from Yamakami's gun. When Yamakami fires, they fire. If there's a video that shows a precise synchronization between Yamakami's gun making a smoke puff and Abe falling, it could weigh against this theory.

You're essentially admitting you're just randomly speculating so no harm no foul. But still it's highly doubtful in my eyes.

First off I don't see much reason for a conspiracy to be made to murder a retired politician. Yes there was potential for Abe to decide he was healthy enough to go back into office but this would be speculation.

Now anyway a shotgun (or a shotgun-style improvised device in this case) is a straight up legendary firearm for a reason. What makes a Shotgun a weapon you especially don't want to be on receiving end on is that the projectile pellets (there's also slugs but nobody uses those unless they wanna shoot bear) will spread out, minimizing the potential for a miss. The assassin's improvised device being effectively a sawn off meant it had a wider spread of pellets. This further improves the shooter's odds to hit their target at close range.

I think you're way overestimating the marksmanship it takes to accurately fire a weapon, especially in this case as the shooter fired effectively IMO point blank range. Source BBC.

This was hardly Oswald shooting JFK from a book depository building. This was shooting fish in a barrel. When you're at close distances like this all a person has to do is aim and pull the trigger.

BTW the current online speculation is that Yamagami was pissed off because his Mommy gave money to the Unification Church, a conservative religious movement (understandably considered a cult by many) that Abe openly gave praise to. This group particularly is hated by Liberals and of course REEEESETERA.

 

[Ross Ulbricht]

This proves that gun laws work. The killer was not able to purchase anything better illegally so he made his own gun that's comparable to something from the 18th century. Ridiculously inaccurate, generates a lot of smoke and can only be fired twice. Can't commit a mass shooting with anything like that.

The first shot missed completely. Abe was really unlucky, because the second shot could have easily missed too. This definitely isn't a reliable way to kill someone.

But in the USA any idiot can buy an AR-15, a bunch of high capacity magazines and a bump stock too. Someone is going to beat the Vegas shooter's record sooner or later - mark my words.

 

[Vaclav]

What makes a Shotgun a weapon you especially don't want to be on receiving end on is that the projectile pellets (there's also slugs but nobody uses those unless they wanna shoot bear) will spread out, minimizing the potential for a miss. The assassin's improvised device being effectively a sawn off meant it had a wider spread of pellets. This further improves the shooter's odds to hit their target at close range.

Shotguns in real life don't work like they do in video games. In Doom the shotgun's projectiles spread out at like a 30 degree angle. In real life, commercially-made shotgun shells have the pellets inside a plastic cap that breaks apart around 10 feet out, so within 10 feet it's like a single projectile. Only beyond 10 feet is there any spread at all, and it's like 6-12 inches of spread at 25 yards depending on load etc. Wide enough to have a better chance at hitting a bird, but not enough to kill 2 imps at point blank range like in Doom. Yamakami's weapon would have more spread but not much more, his margin of error was at most maybe 3 inches. And that's assuming he was using shot and not slugs of some kind.

I lean toward him using slugs, if he used shot I would expect to see a more grisly wound on Abe, in the photos only a bit of blood is visible. The lethality also suggests a slug. Homemade, home-packed shot has more variables that can go wrong and result in projectiles with too little energy to do much damage. If Yamakami was able to find or make lead balls of a diameter close to the bore's that would be his best chance to do lethal damage.

 

[Lemmingwise]

This proves that gun laws work. The killer was not able to purchase anything better illegally so he made his own gun that's comparable to something from the 18th century. Ridiculously inaccurate, generates a lot of smoke and can only be fired twice. Can't commit a mass shooting with anything like that.

The first shot missed completely. Abe was really unlucky, because the second shot could have easily missed too. This definitely isn't a reliable way to kill someone.

But in the USA any idiot can buy an AR-15, a bunch of high capacity magazines and a bump stock too. Someone is going to beat the Vegas shooter's record sooner or later - mark my words.

Who knows what he could have gotten if he had intent to do a mass shooting instead? It certainly didn't stop any of the european mass shootings like charlie hepdo or bataclan.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Shotguns in real life don't work like they do in video games. In Doom the shotgun's projectiles spread out at like a 30 degree angle. In real life, commercially-made shotgun shells have the pellets inside a plastic cap that breaks apart around 10 feet out, so within 10 feet it's like a single projectile. Only beyond 10 feet is there any spread at all, and it's like 6-12 inches of spread at 25 yards depending on load etc. Wide enough to have a better chance at hitting a bird, but not enough to kill 2 imps at point blank range like in Doom. Yamakami's weapon would have more spread but not much more, his margin of error was at most maybe 3 inches. And that's assuming he was using shot and not slugs of some kind.

I lean toward him using slugs, if he used shot I would expect to see a more grisly wound on Abe, in the photos only a bit of blood is visible. The lethality also suggests a slug. Homemade, home-packed shot has more variables that can go wrong and result in projectiles with too little energy to do much damage. If Yamakami was able to find or make lead balls of a diameter close to the bore's that would be his best chance to do lethal damage.

Lol, wasn't trying to give the hilarious implication that real shotguns work like video game shotguns but thanks for taking the time to clarify.

But with that said I disagree hard on your theory that it was a slug. Shooting someone with a shotgun slug will result in them having a giant hole in their body. Abe and any human being would be dead on the ground from a slug in the chest.

 

[John Freeman]

I don't think idea of gender exists in any other language than english(maybe besides in some obscure cultures). Also the whole pronouns crap only works in english because it is not gendered language.

I’m glad to know that there’s a major disconnect between western faggots and the average Japanese person. If some American BurgerFat tried to lecture some Japanese Wageman on Transgender Rights and Polyamory Theory he would laugh or just leave, assuming he even understood these ass backwards concepts that are illogical and only exist in western cultures. Plus Japs are conservative af or so I hear. They don’t have time for western shenanigans because they’re too busy having a high standard of living and politicians who care about their country.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Who knows what he could have gotten of he had intent to do a mass shooting instead? It certainly didn't stop any of the european mass shootings like charlie hepdo or bataclan.

And don't forget the "truck of peace" like the one at Nice who killed around 50 people along with chemicals like the Tokyo subway attack in 1995.

 

[Vaclav]

But with that said I disagree hard on your theory that it was a slug. Shooting someone with a shotgun slug will result in them having a giant hole in their body. Abe and any human being would be dead on the ground from a slug in the chest.

Correct - if it were a professionally-made slug from a modern shotgun There's a good chance Yamakami's gun made much less energy than a modern shotgun because of its shorter barrels, lower-quality propellant, etc. The slugs may have also been steel balls rather than lead. You can get steel ball bearings from hardware suppliers in many different diameters; that might have been the easiest way for him to get a projectile that would fit the bore without having to melt and pour lead.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

They don’t have time for western shenanigans because they’re too busy having a high standard of living and politicians who care about their country.

LMAO. High standards of living? Are you that fucking naive? Especially after a loon build a gun & assassinated an important political figure while the security was just standing there completely dumbfounded.

They don't have time for Western shenanigans because they have to deal with their own japanese shenanigans. But certain western faggots are too dense to understand this.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

What's worse: the heckin epik female bodyguard that the media was portraying as perfect and what not.. was 'protecting' Abe during the event. So much for muh stronk female
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>can't even prevent a guy walking around with a DIY gun and shooting a second shot after seconds of delay
They are ALL incompetent and to blame, but this was the cherry on the top.

an ironic death then.

Shinzo didn't deserve this fate, but plenty of other politicians do.

see above

You know, with the tragic passing of a man who only wanted to improve the Japanese birth rate, maybe it'd be considered respectful for young Japanese men to meet a nice girl and impregnate her? Haha, just a thought. I mean, wouldn't it be fitting? In memory of Abe-sama? Haha.
I am no longer asking. Impregnate a Japanese woman RIGHT NOW.

I'D BE ABLE TO KNOCK A WOMAN UP IF ABE DIDN'T FORCE THEM TO GO TO WORK!!!!!

RIP Shinzo Abe, that time you kept falling into a bunker while golfing with Trump was one of the best bits of physical comedy in years.

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its literally like a scene from caddyshack, surprised memes from that didn't take off, it literally had a jap sidekick to a borrish old fat blond white male.

 

[AcidityLiquidity]

I’m glad to know that there’s a major disconnect between western faggots and the average Japanese person. If some American BurgerFat tried to lecture some Japanese Wageman on Transgender Rights and Polyamory Theory he would laugh or just leave, assuming he even understood these ass backwards concepts that are illogical and only exist in western cultures. Plus Japs are conservative af or so I hear. They don’t have time for western shenanigans because they’re too busy having a high standard of living and politicians who care about their country.

Hate to break it to you bud but that 'high standard of living and politicians who care about their country.' is a meme.

The living standards are high if you think living in a box for 10x the price of a whole house compared to the US is high. The education and work systems are incredibly toxic, in the real sense not the faggy game sense, in that they grind out all individuality and will to make you into a nice little cog. Said cog working 80+ hour work weeks with little to no time off and then paying an obscene amount in taxes to the 'good politicians' who do nothing and embezzle the shit out of said obscene taxes.

Its a corporate dystopia wrapped in kawaii uguu packaging.

 

[Lemmingwise]

And don't forget the "truck of peace" like the one at Nice who killed around 50 people along with chemicals like the Tokyo subway attack in 1995.

Both of these are still harder than point and shoot. I've seen many anti-truck blocks places in the netherlands to prevent those kind of truck attacks in shopping areas as a preventative measure, to give one example. You can't have those measures against guns.

The chemical attack required a cult to build a chemical plant, because they couldn't get it done at the regular research laboratory they had access to. And the errors in production caused serious harm to the people making it. (assuming the wikipedia article is accurate)

The point is that even in a society where guns aren't readily available, people who have intent are able to acquire them anyways. And if you forbid them in a country like US? Then everybody will still have them, except for the 2-5% most law-abiding who might get rid of them.

 

[Chin of Campbell]

This proves that gun laws work. The killer was not able to purchase anything better illegally so he made his own gun that's comparable to something from the 18th century. Ridiculously inaccurate, generates a lot of smoke and can only be fired twice. Can't commit a mass shooting with anything like that.

The first shot missed completely. Abe was really unlucky, because the second shot could have easily missed too. This definitely isn't a reliable way to kill someone.

But in the USA any idiot can buy an AR-15, a bunch of high capacity magazines and a bump stock too. Someone is going to beat the Vegas shooter's record sooner or later - mark my words.

amazing satire, great work

 

[Kulee Baba]

LMAO. High standards of living? Are you that fucking naive? Especially after a loon build a gun & assassinated an important political figure while the security was just standing there completely dumbfounded.

They don't have time for Western shenanigans because they have to deal with their own japanese shenanigans. But certain western faggots are too dense to understand this.

Hate to break it to you bud but that 'high standard of living and politicians who care about their country.' is a meme.

The living standards are high if you think living in a box for 10x the price of a whole house compared to the US is high. The education and work systems are incredibly toxic, in the real sense not the faggy game sense, in that they grind out all individuality and will to make you into a nice little cog. Said cog working 80+ hour work weeks with little to no time off and then paying an obscene amount in taxes to the 'good politicians' who do nothing and embezzle the shit out of said obscene taxes.

Its a corporate dystopia wrapped in kawaii uguu packaging.

I refuse to believe either of you. My Animes would not lie to me.

My 4 year plan is to move to Tokyo where I'll learn the language by working at McDonalds. Then once I'm acclimated to the environment I'll find a job at either Nintendo or Studio Ghibli and become an idea guy like my idol Hideo Kojima.

 

[Meiwaku]

I’m glad to know that there’s a major disconnect between western faggots and the average Japanese person. If some American BurgerFat tried to lecture some Japanese Wageman on Transgender Rights and Polyamory Theory he would laugh or just leave, assuming he even understood these ass backwards concepts that are illogical and only exist in western cultures. Plus Japs are conservative af or so I hear. They don’t have time for western shenanigans because they’re too busy having a high standard of living and politicians who care about their country.

Correction: politely sit there and nod like oh... I see... So that's how it is... While thinking "what in the fuck is this person talking about can't they read the room?". The retarded Foreigner will leave the conversation thinking that they actually made some ground while the Japanese normie goes home and talks about the strange person they met to their family and friends.

Also I think you have rose tinted lenses on. In reality, Japan is a place like any other. It's not hell on earth unless you work for a black company or have a general shit job (as in one that works employees to death not one that is run by niggers). And it's not peachy heaven unless you're just there on vacation as gaijin, Japanese people treat Japanese people differently (even if you look like you could be a Japanese person people will treat you less kindly because they expect you to "know the rules" and you get a different treatment) lol. People who enter any country with ideals that it is free from sin or nothing but shit always end up sorely disappointed.

Spoiler: Sperg on shit that's better in Japan vs America

Sure, there's a lot of things I wish America had that Japan does such as gubmnt covering 90% of my medical expenses or worrying about going into crippling debt and not having a tugboat of assistance if something happens to me or if I am unemployed for a period of time. My ex gf had long vacations in within her employment contract. She also had her salary as well as a $500usd a month BONUS housing stipend (she was not in a big prefecture and they still provided this). I wish America had more jobs that paid well that you didn't need a degree for. You can be an entry level nurse assistant in Japan snd train on the Job. There are people who don't make it past middle school and can earn a living or take on a trade. I also wish Americans didn't litter so terribly, cared about preserving cultural environments, made less of an ass of themselves in public, and were more courteous to others in public especially in the north (southern hospitality should be the meta). Yankee and hoodrat attitudes are fucking annoying and a disturbance to everyone else. People like Ralph, SJWs, or Twitter Trannies are basically highlights of how focus on militant level individualism can go so, so, wrong. This level of flippant niggatry just doesn't exist anywhere else. but is VERY funny . I also REALLY miss going on women's only dating sites and finding only women. Trannies are also actively gate kept from lesbian bars or onsen there too because based Japan.

But there's things that I'm glad America doesn't have that Japan does....like there's this retarded tax where if you are married and you have two incomes and earns over the USD equivalent of 20k a year, you get taxed like crazy. This was basically meant to keep women in the home. I had a housewife friend who was more or less forced to quit and move to a part time job because of this. There's also lack of job advancement in some companies unless you ARE married which happened to another acquaintance of mine. I'm glad we don't have to pay for highschool out of pocket. We also have way better Universities despite the gay price tag. America has a better legal system too because you have a chance of being found innocent if you are lol. I also have protection for gay marraige because if you're in a lesbian relationship in Japan you don't get certain rights to visit your spouse or children if your spouse becomes sick or dies. There's no legal protections for us even on a base level without calling it marraige. I'm also glad America is a meritocracy so people who are capable can move up the ladder. I also love that as a highly educated woman I have a chance to be treated more fairly as a professional and not be asked to serve the men coffee and tea just because I'm the woman in the meeting.

Tl;Dr- every first world country has its pros and cons. Rose tinted lenses or thinking a place is inherently shit is retarded. You have to take your pick of what is acceptable and what isn't and realize there is no perfect place, only what you make of a place can make it perfect for you.

They don't have time for Western shenanigans because they have to deal with their own japanese shenanigans. But certain western faggots are too dense to understand this.

Most Americans would die if they had to walk 1 (one) mile to take one train to get to work like a standard Japanese person.

 

[Niggaplease]

what wait he got shot I thought guns were banned in japan?

 

[Reverend]

All for his party supporting banning Mean Tweets and Hentai.

Hate to see what happens when they try to ban Anime or video games.

 

[Trap Card]

The Kojima thing has spiralled out of control.

https://twitter.com/KojiPro2015_EN/status/1545751079685484544

https://web.archive.org/web/20220709125559/https://twitter.com/KojiPro2015_EN/status/1545751079685484544

 

[LoFi_Bandit]

The Kojima thing has spiralled out of control.

https://twitter.com/KojiPro2015_EN/status/1545751079685484544

https://web.archive.org/web/20220709125559/https://twitter.com/KojiPro2015_EN/status/1545751079685484544

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