Debate newfag Cauchy on if trannies deserve anything

[I (Don't) Have A Gun]

I can't tell if this is some new form of trolling that I can't unravel, but either way, with or without context, this isn't exactly something somebody with critical thinking says and doesn't question, if only for but a moment.

Him saying trannies are better women than women kinda sealed my opinion that the entire thing is just a big troll. It has to be because for several pages before people were saying how trannies are misogynistic and then he comes out and says something like that.

 

[Dyn]

But let me understand, almost all men on this planet need sex. Just like you get hungry and thirsty, males have a very strong sex drive.

This is not the slightest bit true. We like sex. We love sex. We are greatly motivated by sex and we will do stupid, undignified things in pursuit of it. But comparing the male sex drive to the basic need for sustenance like some kind of degenerate learned-helplessness coomer is pathetic and infantilising and insulting to men. We can do much, much better than this, and if you can't that's on you, not the rest of us.

No man ever needs to pay for sex. Paying for sex is just a matter of convenience. If sex is so important to you that you think you'll wither away and die without it, you can pay for it or you can put some fucking effort in, take a shower, hit a club and talk some chubby not-too-bright girl into fucking you. It's not that hard.

 

[Little oak tree]

We can do much, much better than this, and if you can't that's on you, not the rest of us.

Well then start doing better because right now its basically hell isn't it?
Im giving a better option than keep on denying the problems as always waiting for divine judgement haha.
I don't need to pay for sex, its not that its important to me, humanity exist because sex is important.
Infantilized is the belief that we are so dignified, your mom is a fucking whore and your dad is a horny idiot, foolishness is the single thing that keeps us procreating.
Give it whatever excuse you want, "oh but im married in the sight of God", yeah whatever enjoy your pussy and dick.
You are just delusional and oblivious to your own nature and the nature of the world you live in

 

[Niggaplease]

What happened to you sucks.
But let me understand, almost all men on this planet need sex. Just like you get hungry and thirsty, males have a very strong sex drive.
Some men need to pay for sex because they are too unattractive or boring/mentally ill or whatever
You don't want them to have access to any women not even by payment, and there are some males that do the female sex job, but you also hate those.
So my question is what do u want to do with all those impulses?
I understand if you were stupid at 18 and got exploited by the world i was stupid back then too and my future self will think im stupid today
But "get yo coin girl", coins are very hard to get
You were getting paid, if you want to improve the working conditions of prostitutes the way certainly isn't demonizing them further just because you were too naive to know better, prostitution has been with us since the beginning and it will stay with us.
It would be like musicians saying music is evil because they got royally fucked by their label.
Everything "lies" to you. You decide what to buy

Listen closely...
its the rest of the world crying for help as well.

sex isnt a human right Idk whats so hard to understand about that concept, but men don't need sex to live.
Acting like men need prostitutes is excusing their own bad behavior.

no one who has grown up healthy well adjusted in a normal child hood aspires to or ends up being a whore. actual whoring isn't like stripping or cam work, its dangerous, its tedious its degrading, it can land you in the slammer your at risk of being murdered more likely cause who cares about a whore?

the fact that you justify these societal negatives and risks some whores have to go through just to make money so they can eat for the week, pay rent, or not get dope sick that day because a small fraction of men can't get laid on their own is asssnine.

Also I like to point out very few who sought out my services were helpless incels with no hope on this earth getting laid, most of them were married men able to have sex at anytime with their spouses.

so in answer to your question of what men must do instead seeking out hooker when they get horny..
fap, by a sex doll, under stand that their not entitled to sex 24/7 at any given time, that sex isnt a human right.

as for working conditions for whores

I want sex work to be completely abolished period, so no sex work no working conditions.
I believe in the future we will have sex bots that will replace actual hookers, and that would abolish flesh and blood prostitution. I mean after you claim that some men NEEED SEX and are beasts who can't go above their own basic instincts, why subject live hookers to that type of men?

I mean really think about it, your acting like a small fraction of men NEED SEX as if they need food water.
I dont consider sex a human right, as not basic to a persons survivial sure its a nice thing to have but its not a need in the sense that you would die going with out.
I'm one of the very few terfs who don't mind the advent of robotic sex dolls. I think some men shouldn't be interacting with live women because of how toxic they are and will happily be content if they voluntarily remove themselves from the genepool by being with their robotic waifus.

yeah I was making money by my pimp took 75 percent of it, I was still living hand to mouth, still getting beat, and everytime I tried seeking out help from my friends they wouldn't listen and act like what I was doing was empowering. when in actuality I wanted to die every day I was still stuck in my position.
it took me years squirreling away and hiding money to skip town, I had no help, no support, I was scared to go to the cops, my only option was to disappear and fuck off to another town.

 

[Dyn]

Well then start doing better because right now its basically hell isn't it?
Im giving a better option than keep on denying the problems as always waiting for divine judgement haha.
I don't need to pay for sex, its not that its important to me, humanity exist because sex is important.
Infantilized is the belief that we are so dignified, your mom is a fucking whore and your dad is a horny idiot, foolishness is the single thing that keeps us procreating.
Give it whatever excuse you want, "oh but im married in the sight of God", yeah whatever enjoy your pussy and dick.
You are just delusional and oblivious to your own nature and the nature of the world you live in

I'm doing just fine, buddy. Life isn't hell for me, I quite enjoy it.

Now, you can call me 'delusional' and 'oblivious' and all that jazz but, let's be real here. If we're going to talk about a lack of self-awareness, you're the one who seems to think somebody's eventually going to have sympathy for your pathetic incel tears, and I'm just the guy telling you "No, they won't".

Hope you have a blessed day, friendo.

 

[Little oak tree]

sex isnt a human right Idk whats so hard to understand about that concept, but men don't need sex to live.
Acting like men need prostitutes is excusing their own bad behavior.

no one who has grown up healthy well adjusted in a normal child hood aspires to or ends up being a whore. actual whoring isn't like stripping or cam work, its dangerous, its tedious its degrading, it can land you in the slammer your at risk of being murdered more likely cause who cares about a whore?

the fact that you justify these societal negatives and risks some whores have to go through just to make money so they can eat for the week, pay rent, or not get dope sick that day because a small fraction of men can't get laid on their own is asssine.

Also I like to point out very few who sought out my services were helpless incels with no hope on this earth getting laid, most of them were married men able to have sex at anytime with their spouses.

so in answer to your question of what men must do instead seeking out hooker when they get horny..
fap, by a sex doll, under stand that their not entitled to sex 24/7 at any given time, that sex isnt a human right.

as for working conditions for whores

I want sex work to be completely abolished period, so no sex work no working conditions.
I believe in the future we will have sex bots that will replace actual hookers, and that would abolish flesh and blood prostitution. I mean after you claim that some men NEEED SEX and are beasts who can't go above their own basic instincts, why subject live hookers to that type of men?

I mean really think about it, your acting like a small fraction of men NEED SEX as if they need food water.
I dont consider sex a human right, as not basic to a persons survivial sure its a nice thing to have but its not a need in the sense that you would die going with out.

yeah I was making money by my pimp took 75 percent of it, I was still living hand to mouth, still getting beat, and everytime I tried seeking out help from my friends they wouldn't listen and act like what I was doing was empowering. when in actuality I wanted to die every day I was still stuck in my position.
it took me years squirreling away and hiding money to skip town, I had no help, no support, I was scared to go to the cops, my only option was to disappear and fuck off to another town.

I never said sex was a human right.
Selling your body should be a human right, it being illegal only hurts the sex workers
oh that sounds so nice, but before or after Jesus comes to save us all? oh right after the cyborg fuckdolls, but until then, people, not just women, will want to sell their bodies and some people will want to buy them.
be realistic.
Reality doesn't care about your feelings, not even if you were an abused whore
Again all your problems stem from your ignorance and by the illegality and current state of prostitution, not by prostitution itself.
But its all good, keep fighting hurricanes and trying to dry the ocean with a sponge, good luck, people will keep using drugs as it has done since humanity started, it will keep indulging in everything it has been doing and like an idiot in denial it will eventually have to confront what it is.

I'm doing just fine, buddy. Life isn't hell for me, I quite enjoy it.

Now, you can call me 'delusional' and 'oblivious' and all that jazz but, let's be real here. If we're going to talk about a lack of self-awareness, you're the one who seems to think somebody's eventually going to have sympathy for your pathetic incel tears, and I'm just the guy telling you "No, they won't".

Hope you have a blessed day, friendo.

Well, giving no fucks about powerlevel, i was a sex worker and started very young, trust me buddy, it can get pretty hellish, im talking about us.
So you can keep projecting on me but you'd probably find it easier with an incel like yourself, i really don't know what gives you the impression im seeking sympathy but whatever
And you needed to ask me to call the coin toss first, friendo.

 

[Niggaplease]

I never said sex was a human right.
Selling your body should be a human right, it being illegal only hurts the sex workers
oh that sounds so nice, but before or after Jesus comes to save us all? oh right after the cyborg fuckdolls, but until then, people, not just women, will want to sell their bodies and some people will want to buy them.
be realistic.
Reality doesn't care about your feelings, not even if you were an abused whore
Again all your problems stem from your ignorance and by the illegality and current state of prostitution, not by prostitution itself.
But its all good, keep fighting hurricanes and trying to dry the ocean with a sponge, good luck, people will keep using drugs as it has done since humanity started, it will keep indulging in everything it has been doing and like an idiot in denial it will eventually have to confront what it is.

and you think making sex work legal would magically solve all the issues stemming around sex work in of itself?
lol, gtfo, I don't see how legalizing sex work would make the situation better, because even the countries where sex work is legal, theres still traffickers funneling supply from other countries into the legal countries as well as else where.

Again as I stated no one who is relatively healthy or normal in the head would willingly choose sex work, atleast in my little corner of world when I was still engaged with it. literally every hooker I've known had something that led them there, like financial desperation, ssdi checks nots paying enough and having a disability that made keeping a steady job hard, a crippling addiction, kids that needed money for school and their jobs weren't paying enought. the only sane ones who did it for the shits n giggles where making upwards of 2k to 5k a night and had the luxury of not having a pimp who was beating you daily, or the ability to turn down clients on whim. those were like 1 percent in my area.

sex work isn't a choice devoid of outside influence for alot of people, if sex were truly a choice then alot more people would aspire to do it.
if we lived in a world that offered better security nets for the disenfranchised so they wouldn't feel the need to whore themselves out, then you might have a point. but unfortunately, I am not saying its a choice devoid of undeu influence and societal factors, especially when another hooker is blind to the issues of it.

 

[Little oak tree]

and you think making sex work legal would magically solve all the issues stemming around sex work in of itself?
lol, gtfo, I don't see how legalizing sex work would make the situation better, because even the countries where sex work is legal, theres still traffickers funneling supply from other countries into the legal countries as well as else where.

Again as I stated no one who is relatively healthy or normal in the head would willingly choose sex work, atleast in my little corner of world when I was still engaged with it. literally every hooker I've known had something that led them there, like financial desperation, ssdi checks nots paying enough and having a disability that made keeping a steady job hard, a crippling addiction, kids that needed money for school and their jobs weren't paying enought. the only sane ones who did it for the shits n giggles where making upwards of 2k to 5k a night and had the luxury of not having a pimp who was beating you daily, or the ability to turn down clients on whim. those were like 1 percent in my area.

sex work isn't a choice devoid of outside influence for alot of people, if sex were truly a choice then alot more people would aspire to do it.

And the fuckers who hire hookers are pretty fucked up as well, honestly, every single person is insane.
But broken people without money still have to work, and broken people without charisma or whatever they lack still have to fuck.
Thats just life, and yeah, making it legal and giving rights and government protection to prostitutes of course would make life better for them. It would have prevented most of the stuff you said happened to you.

 

[Dyn]

i was a sex worker and started very young, trust me buddy, it can get pretty hellish, im talking about us.

"I was a sex worker and won't somebody please think of the tricks" lmao I don't believe you.

 

[Little oak tree]

"I was a sex worker and won't somebody please think of the tricks" lmao I don't believe you.

Its alright, maybe I'm a bullshitter i could very well be.
But i was saying life is hell for prostitutes, thats what the post of the woman i answered to was saying, in case you didn't notice.

 

[Niggaplease]

And the fuckers who hire hookers are pretty fucked up as well, honestly, every single person is insane.
But broken people without money still have to work, and broken people without charisma or whatever they lack still have to fuck.
Thats just life, and yeah, making it legal and giving rights and government protection to prostitutes of course would make life better for them. It would have prevented most of the stuff you said happened to you.

it won't do shit for human trafficking, and why is the answer legalize sex work?
so people can continue work in it until they're no longer able too?
because sex work has a time limit, and that is as long as your marketable as fuckable.

alot of the reasons why people turn to sex work in the first place can be easily solved with better security nets, and more resources. but fuck them lol they can go whore in the street, great plan!

and whose to say that if had sex work been legal it would've protected me from a daily beating and being forced to work? I had clear cut evidence I was being forced into work, but lived in a corrupt town, alot of lefties like to sperg about police corruption but where they live are the least corrupt in the world.

 

[Dyn]

Its alright, maybe I'm a bullshitter i could very well be.
But i was saying life is hell for prostitutes, thats what the post of the woman i answered to was saying, in case you didn't notice.

I don't believe her either, and the post you were answering was mine, dummy.

 

[Little oak tree]

it won't do shit for human trafficking, and why is the answer legalize sex work?
so people can continue work in it until they're no longer able too?
because sex work has a time limit, and that is as long as your marketable as fuckable.

alot of the reasons why people turn to sex work in the first place can be easily solved with better security nets, and more resources. but fuck them lol they can go whore in the street, great plan!

and whose to say that if had sex work been legal it would've protected me from a daily beating and being forced to work? I had clear cut evidence I was being forced into work, but lived in a corrupt town, alot of lefties like to sperg about police corruption but where they live are the least corrupt in the world.

Human trafficking is a whole other deal and of course we should exterminate that.
Hopefully just a temporary job, that being a legal and respected job would leave them no social stain and could move on easily to other job once they can.
And yeah thats the point, why the street? Prostitution could be a religious activity or at least have clean facilities.
The world is a beast, if its hungry IT WILL CREATE FOOD.
The police usually protects members of society that aren't criminals, if you were a whore you were a criminal you were still getting paid, even if it was a misery. what did you expect?

I don't believe her either, and the post you were answering was mine, dummy.

it wasn't

 

[Niggaplease]

Human trafficking is a whole other deal and of course we should exterminate that.
Hopefully just a temporary job, that being a legal and respected job would leave them no social stain and could move on easily to other job once they can.
And yeah thats the point, why the street? Prostitution could be a religious activity or at least have clean facilities.
The world is a beast, if its hungry IT WILL CREATE FOOD.
The police usually protects members of society that aren't criminals, if you were a whore you were a criminal you were still getting paid, even if it was a misery. what did you expect?

i think maybe just maybe police shouldn't treat whores like criminals. period regardless of legality.
especially if they're forced into it.
I mean shit theres countries that have made prostitution illegal for the johns buying it, and not throwing the prostitutes in jail for it. its called the nordic model.
so if you were completely mangled or beaten by a john you could report it with out fear of repercussions. its defacto decriminilization, because if things weren't bad why report your customers?
plus it would provides resources and help for people who want out.

 

[Little oak tree]

i think maybe just maybe police shouldn't treat whores like criminals. period regardless of legality.
especially if they're forced into it.
I mean shit theres countries that have made prostitution illegal for the johns buying it, and not throwing the prostitutes in jail for it. its called the nordic model.
so if you were completely mangled or beaten by a john you could report it with out fear of repercussions. its defacto decriminilization, because if things weren't bad why report your customers?
plus it would provides resources and help for people who want out.

Wouldn't it just be easier and more logical and practical to make them not be criminals?
Tell me one valid reason that is not based on religion.
I already told you human trafficking is different, but shinning light at that direction would unavoidably uncover and bring to the focus those darker horrid truths so we could deal with them.
Our current tactic for a long time has been to just deny it and it simply doesn't work.
Prostitution is also illegal for the buyers. But you mix a lot of stuff.
And i tell you the same thing, if you are a criminal you dont have the rights a citizen has

 

[CharcoalChkn]

When I'm told how "we" should act as women and how "we" have it so hard.

It's so frustrating, can you not invade women's spaces and issues for one fucking moment and make it about yourselves, you CHOSE to be this gender, don't fucking complain about it, if you don't like it, why did you transition in the first place? To get more oppression points?

Also WOMEN have periods and pregnancies, not "people with uteruses".

 

[brazilsucksdick]

Again as I stated no one who is relatively healthy or normal in the head would willingly choose sex work, atleast in my little corner of world when I was still engaged with it. literally every hooker I've known had something that led them there, like financial desperation, ssdi checks nots paying enough and having a disability that made keeping a steady job hard, a crippling addiction, kids that needed money for school and their jobs weren't paying enought. the only sane ones who did it for the shits n giggles where making upwards of 2k to 5k a night and had the luxury of not having a pimp who was beating you daily, or the ability to turn down clients on whim. those were like 1 percent in my area.

boo fucking hoo have you tried doing actual labor for once.

 

[Ratboy Genius]

Well this thread has thoroughly derailed. @Cauchy please come back you were an entertaining troll

 

[Cauchy]

I'm b-ACK
changed pfp, previous one was WAY too girly

 

[Ratboy Genius]

I'm b-ACK

How are you?