Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

Livestream today was boring to me, nothing really stood out to the point of me bothering to take notes. He describes his play as "Elizabethan Sci-Fi". THREE of the eight characters in his play are trans "women", one of the actors is nonbinary. Next video of his will be about art. Slight shade at someone whom he used to be friends with but hasn't seen in years (Contra?) being weird when seeing him at Vidcon. He'll be taking the "business" side of Youtube more seriously since Vidcon inspired him, plans on hiring a social media team after his play is over to run a Tiktok and Instagram account for him. Actually addresses how his video under-performed and that he shouldn't feel embarrassed about changing the title and thumbnail since other Youtubers do that too.
 
I agree it was boring but I still powered through! Picking this guy apart is fun what can I say!

Live stream time.

Nothing too exciting. It was definitely a slog. Contra gets high or drunk and might say something slightly out of pocket. Not Olly. It’s always the same beats with Olly. He eats his chocolate raisins, he lights a candle, he feigns humility at the more generous (aka insane) superchats, he lists his three stupid irrelevant criteria of a successful video, he drops hints about projects that he’s “afraid I can’t tell you much about it…”. Etc. SO WHY BRING IT UP BITCH.



He immediately addresses the name change of the video, he said he shouldn’t be embarrassed about it. He says “expect to see more” name changes. He says it started to do much better after the name change.. He wants to “focus more on the business end of YouTube.”



(14:00) He referred to some comments that criticized his video from a religious perspective, but he defends himself by saying he has a “blind spot” when it comes to religion. And that he has no faith so doesn’t think that way. In fact he doesn’t even have religious friends….. “I don’t know any religious people.” Whoopsssss a bunch of his commenters are like what about (the disgusting degenerate freak LARPing as a Muslim) Alice????? He catches himself and he’s like ‘oh yeaaaaa I do have a religious friend! Thank you everyone!’ It’s just so funny because it’s so obvious that Alice is in no way shape or form a Muslim and they all know that and Olly made it so crystal clear. His literal purported best friend is a “Muslim” who wears hijab, nope, I don’t have a single religious friend lol. BUSTED babes. And he’s literally made this same blunder before.



He brings up his fake story about the guy approaching him in the park. He says he’s a lesbian (barf) so he doesn’t care if men find him attractive. People said “men need to approach women” or “how are men supposed to meet women?” in his comments but Olly said he doesn’t care if men can meet women, he only cares if HE can meet women, “which is in lesbian spaces.” (Esmeggs, I can feel your (righteous) disgust from here, lol). The levels of cognitive dissonance boggle the mind. The vast majority of lefty people will accept this ridiculous farce at face value. Insane.



At 22:40 he LOUDLY slurps up the last bit of his drink with a straw, the way a little kid does. It’s seriously rude. And earlier he was chomping on his chocolate raisins on the mic so badly that his commenters were complaining and he says sorry. Yeah he’s real self conscious to eat on camera, okay DOUCHE. The raisins were one thing but the way he slurped on the straw was seriously cringe. Manners bitch, do you have any?? It’s like no wonder you think Paris Lees is Martha Stewart for crumbling some pistachio on top of a desert. You’re a oafish man, there’s nothing feminine about you. And anyway he’s not cute or self aware about the slurping, like if a ‘cool girl’ belches ironically. He’s just being rude and oblivious. He says later that Paris’s apartment is really tidy and clean, as opposed to his which is a chaotic mess. You don’t say…



40:40 I guess I buried the lead, because he does (obliquely) refer to running in to Contra at VidCon. He says he saw many people he hasn’t seen for years, then he gestures at his disgusting body to indicate they hadn’t seen him “in the right gender” before. He says most people were totally cool, but one “old friend” who he hasn’t “seen or talked to for years” was…. I think he just makes a face and shakes his head no. “It didn’t always go so well” he says. Frankly, it made me like Contra MORE. I love that Contra gives no quarter and turns his nose up with a consistency. Okay, Contra! I see you! He did meet Kat Blaque briefly. Then he starts his valley girl accent and it’s cringe af. He says at 44:46 that VidCon was a “mixed bag.” “Some amazing things, and some ooooh [clutches chest] painful things.” Obvi referring to Contra again. But Contra don’t currr bitch. Dignity, find you some.



His next video is about Art. He’s already “planned out some of the looks.” So important.



At 37:35 he says he “needs to be careful what I say here” because he refers to a network of “solidarity” that trans women in the UK utilize to get around restrictions in the UK. I was laughing watching because he is so dramatic and literally made it sound like the French Resistance or the Underground Railroad. The absolute state of leftism in 2022. Trannies acting like they’re Harriet Tubman to get their titty skittles.



Someone asks if The Prince has a Machiavelli reference and he says “no” matter of factly, as though he thinks it’s not an obvious allusion or inference that people might draw. Machiavelli who, babes???? I just love how blind his narc ways make him. He also says he encouraged some of his friends to audition, but warned them he was not in charge of casting. He says not a single friend who auditioned was cast, then laughs with spiteful joy. Just a repulsive narc freak. TUBE had to work his way up from the tops, babe, don’t except any handouts from Princess Abi!!



1:00:45 Someone asks “did you study philosophy in school?” which he reads in a voice as if to say, what kind of asshole could ask me this?? Olly pauses, looks at the camera like ‘uh doyyy’ then with complete pretension says in his trooniest voice, [breathy, eyelashes fluttering with disdain] “I have a Masters degree, yeah….” Then sips on his straw and moves on. Not, “I did actually, I was lucky enough to go to such and such a school” or “I studied from this year to that year.” Anyway he is such an unremitting asshole I CANNOT. I can’t imagine how his audience tolerates him.

He says he finally learned how to do “hot girl” eyebrows and that he saw Katy Perry on the cover of People magazine and “stole the look” for the stream. Lol the resemblance is uncanny Oliver, mmhmm.
 
He describes his play as "Elizabethan Sci-Fi". THREE of the eight characters in his play are trans "women", one of the actors is nonbinary.
Oh dear, three trannies and a NB? Why does that sound like the title of a shitty post-millenial sitcom set in a liberal metropolis? I reckon that's gonna be Chubelord himself, that muzzie LARPer troon, Devon, and considering Chubie's infatuation with him, maybe Paris Lees? Or is he going to fly in some top talent from the USA just to own Naty? Possibly just pick up random trannis from the streets of London and toss the script at them?

So many questions again.
 
Tombigbee:
People said “men need to approach women” or “how are men supposed to meet women?” in his comments but Olly said he doesn’t care if men can meet women, he only cares if HE can meet women, “which is in lesbian spaces.” (Esmeggs, I can feel your (righteous) disgust from here, lol).
I actually started to write a whole thing on this in my original post but deleted it because I was too repulsed and figured I should just leave it to someone else 😭I honestly almost turned off the livestream at that part, he mentions being a "lesbian" a dozen times as if that's not just a huge joke. He literally just ranted about how off-putting it was to have some man in the park invade his space when he didn't want to have to deal with a creepy man coming onto him and then says that of course he goes into lesbian spaces to try to hit on lesbians as if that's not weird and that should be obvious to everyone watching. It's so hard to even write about it because it's just... he's delirious but in a disgusting creeper way. It's moments like this where I'm baffled that him and "Alice" are taken seriously by anyone at all.

Also I know this is a tad bit nitpicky but I hated how Olly implied that men shouldn't approach women in public to try to shoot their shot and MUST rely on dating apps to try and find women. If a man can handle rejection fine (without throwing a shitfit and/or being unable to take no for an answer) then I honestly really respect them for trying to ask a woman out. In my own experience it is rare that the men who approach me are respectful and handle rejection well, but again Olly seems to be implying that men cannot approach women in public without that being inherently creepy. "You must rely on an algorithm to meet women otherwise you're upholding the patriarchy" is such a stupid (and soulless imo) take.
Oh dear, three trannies and a NB? Why does that sound like the title of a shitty post-millenial sitcom set in a liberal metropolis? I reckon that's gonna be Chubelord himself, that muzzie LARPer troon, Devon, and considering Chubie's infatuation with him, maybe Paris Lees? Or is he going to fly in some top talent from the USA just to own Naty? Possibly just pick up random trannis from the streets of London and toss the script at them?

So many questions again.
I got the vibe that they're people he doesn't know at all, but also he can't say anything anyway because it's super serious and top secret you guys. He stresses heavily that he wasn't involved at all with casting. He does mention that he wrote the lead with himself in mind as the actor.
 
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€100 says he'd send Ł20 "philosophy 101" paperbacks and similarly priced cheap shit or some loony troonacy like "an introduction to Kierkegaard from a trans perspective" "a transfeminine rebuttal of plato's cave" instead of actual philosophical works.

Did you make those up? Because I can totally see a trans woman arguing that spending your life being lied to in a cave is Good, Actually.
 
Did you make those up? Because I can totally see a trans woman arguing that spending your life being lied to in a cave is Good, Actually.
I made them up but I too can see a loony troon making the argument. And trannies themselves being an example of Plato's cave regarding their acts of "performative transfemininity" for example.
 
Also I know this is a tad bit nitpicky but I hated how Olly implied that men shouldn't approach women in public to try to shoot their shot and MUST rely on dating apps to try and find women.
Considering Olly's audience, I think this is great advise. Please keep the creepy soyboy TRA crowd away. Unfortunately the trannies aren't self-aware enough to know they are included in the creep category but I can't imagine any man who unironically watches PT would be someone I'd want to have in my vicinity.

And can't quote the post, but from the rundown: is he on about having a master's degree again when it's only something technically called a masters but would be more akin to a US bachelor's degree? Yay for the consistency of disingenuous arguments, wouldn't be nearly as entertaining and cringe without them.
 
Here comes this (presumed trans) woman with a huge donation asking for advice on how to cope with reality, evidently not in the greatest state of mind given the size of the donation.
Can the Tube manage some human decency and, at the very least, offer some generic advice about taking a step back and focusing on the little things in life?

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At 36:38:

Oh my god Diana America Rivera
Um uh
Did you did you mean to super chat me that much?
That's a lot of money
Um wow.
Five times investment ($ 500).
Um
Diana thank you.
Um
okay let me unpack this question from Diana.
Um is uh

Any advice for women (cis and trans) feeling exhausted by the constant assault on our bodily autonomy rights?

I feel the same way
Um
as a trans woman Living in the UK where
Um
yeah we have we have difficulty
Um
with that sort of thing.
Um.
I have been. I have been heartened by how much, I need to be careful what I talk about here, but the trans community does help each other get around some of the restrictions in the UK.
Um.
So uh I have been heartened at least by the degree to which I'm we we have solidarity with each other.
Um.
And I've been able to help each other even when times are hard.
Um.
Probably can't say a whole much more than that.
But um yeah.
Yeah that's probably about all i can say.
Um.
But I'm not entirely hopeless. I realize that.
Um.
That a great deal of that optimism is privilege.
Um.
But yeah there is mutual aid and people do have each other.

And at the very least like so I was chatting to a friend of mine recently who was talking about how revolutionary movements, or in fascism's case counter-revolutionary movements.
Um.
Like to try and establish control of reproduction so that society can be reproduced in the image that they want.
Um.
And it seems to me that it seems to me that the current fascist push for reproductive control kind of isn't really gonna work
Um.
They want to sort of reproduce this kind of white christian society and it's like that's kind of not the comfort, genie's out of the bottle now.
Really it's it's kind of it's a backlash precisely because it feels like it's doomed to fail and they might take a lot of people down with them.

But like
Um.
long term I don't think that the human race is going to be living under christian theocracy forever, even if like some countries have to for a while I'm just like i don't think this is going to be the end of the human species.
Like i don't think that when the last human dies they will do it under christian theocracy. I'm just like I just don't see happening.

So that's just my opinion as one as one babe to another.

But yeah.
Um
What was i talking about?
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No.
Um.
We can't stop talking about ourselves now.
Um.
Can we, Babes?
 
If a man can handle rejection fine (without throwing a shitfit and/or being unable to take no for an answer) then I honestly really respect them for trying to ask a woman out.
A bit off topic, but just wanted to say absolutely yes to this. I don't pretend to have all the answers, but I have a feeling the world would be a much better place for everyone if we would really teach this lesson to young men early on.

Teenage me would ask out, like, one girl per year, get knocked back, and then spend aaaaages wallowing in it (listening to Morrissey and The Cure, and being all woe-is-me). I think that's pretty common, and it's absolutely not the way to go about it. You've got to have the 'courage' to be up front, not invest a huge amount of time and emotion in a relationship before you've even asked her out, and not take rejection like it's the end of the world. It took me a long time to learn that lesson, and I get the impression that some guys just never learn it.

Meh, easy to say I guess. But seriously, it feels like young guys are instead being told that that girl you like is 'The One', and you should spend a whole bunch of time chasing after her, even if she's not interested (and, sometimes, even if she's explicitly told you no). It's not healthy.
 
To be fair, what kind of BITCH would say no to the Chube? Only an absolute HAGGARD HUSSY would turn down the chance of a lifetime!! But not that it matters BABES, because Chube has all the menz all oogling her stunning visage in parking lots and CONSTANTLY gets absolutely HARRASSED by real life MALES who wants to FUCK her since she's such a STUNNING REAL LIFE WOMAN ~teehee~
 
His next video is about Art. He’s already “planned out some of the looks.” So important.

Oh, I'm sure this will be great. He'll lean heavily on John Berger's Ways Of Seeing and spin the depiction of the female nude in European art into something about trans women. If he touches on abstract/non representational/contemporary art - something I can't see him having any interest in as a public school boy - he'll probably argue that there's no real way to define art other than artistic intent and compare this to how a woman "can only be defined as someone who defines as a woman". I expect to see him lifting Contra's mention of Canova's The Three Graces photoshopped with penises on. Schizotake is he'll have commissioned an academic oil portrait of himself to help with his dysphoria and make a statement about representation of trans women in art, which ironically would tie nicely in with Berger's commentary on oil paintings as the commodification of art into tools of prestige.

Any predictions on outfits? I'm sure he'll dress up as famous depictions of women from art history. My money is on a classical sculpture with some bastardised chiton, and then some shoddy Pre-Raphelite look. We might even get Ollie in a rowboat LARPing as The Lady of Shallot (but with studio lighting, natch) completely unaware of the meaning of the painting (I a half sick of shadows, indeed).
 
Oh, I'm sure this will be great. He'll lean heavily on John Berger's Ways Of Seeing and spin the depiction of the female nude in European art into something about trans women.
something something All Canonized Classic European artists had trans women for models, I mean have you seen any of their works? Typical transfeminine features like... wider shoulders are very prominent indeed.
Any predictions on outfits?
He's going to dress up as La Gioconda, at least for a short insert.
 
Here comes this (presumed trans) woman with a huge donation asking for advice on how to cope with reality, evidently not in the greatest state of mind given the size of the donation.
Can the Tube manage some human decency and, at the very least, offer some generic advice about taking a step back and focusing on the little things in life?

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At 36:38:

Oh my god Diana America Rivera
Um uh
Did you did you mean to super chat me that much?
That's a lot of money
Um wow.
Five times investment ($ 500).
Um
Diana thank you.
Um
okay let me unpack this question from Diana.
Um is uh

Any advice for women (cis and trans) feeling exhausted by the constant assault on our bodily autonomy rights?

I feel the same way
Um
as a trans woman Living in the UK where
Um
yeah we have we have difficulty
Um
with that sort of thing.
Um.
I have been. I have been heartened by how much, I need to be careful what I talk about here, but the trans community does help each other get around some of the restrictions in the UK.
Um.
So uh I have been heartened at least by the degree to which I'm we we have solidarity with each other.
Um.
And I've been able to help each other even when times are hard.
Um.
Probably can't say a whole much more than that.
But um yeah.
Yeah that's probably about all i can say.
Um.
But I'm not entirely hopeless. I realize that.
Um.
That a great deal of that optimism is privilege.
Um.
But yeah there is mutual aid and people do have each other.

And at the very least like so I was chatting to a friend of mine recently who was talking about how revolutionary movements, or in fascism's case counter-revolutionary movements.
Um.
Like to try and establish control of reproduction so that society can be reproduced in the image that they want.
Um.
And it seems to me that it seems to me that the current fascist push for reproductive control kind of isn't really gonna work
Um.
They want to sort of reproduce this kind of white christian society and it's like that's kind of not the comfort, genie's out of the bottle now.
Really it's it's kind of it's a backlash precisely because it feels like it's doomed to fail and they might take a lot of people down with them.

But like
Um.
long term I don't think that the human race is going to be living under christian theocracy forever, even if like some countries have to for a while I'm just like i don't think this is going to be the end of the human species.
Like i don't think that when the last human dies they will do it under christian theocracy. I'm just like I just don't see happening.

So that's just my opinion as one as one babe to another.

But yeah.
Um
What was i talking about?
________________________________________________________

No.
Um.
We can't stop talking about ourselves now.
Um.
Can we, Babes?
Speaking of repetitive formula of thes livestreams, Diana America Rivera donates a large sum literally every single time. Is it tube donating to himself so that he can do the faux humility part of the script?
 
Bit late, but Olly decided to promote that dysphoria article he wrote on tumblr
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He has a bit about abortion that makes it pretty clear he has no clue about British abortion law and the processes women have to go through to get an abortion in this country
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Breakdown on abortion laws in britain from the British Pregnancy Advisory Service:
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Would you look at that, women in the UK cannot use 'because I want to' as a reason to get an abortion and in fact do need the approval of 2 doctors. This is not hard to find out, I thought it was common knowledge in Britain to be honest. If I made an almost 40 minute long youtube video about abortion I suspect that this may have come up in my research. He literally has no clue.
 
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That’s … not a lot of followers, lol.
That’s not even a lot of people who will watch it on Nebula, let alone go.

Script will be written: Rehearsals in august. Heehee this gon suck so hard
Less than a month to finalize the script and roughly a month to rehearse everything... if all goes well and none of the actors get the Nu Flu or break their leg.

Sweet Jesus Fucking Christ.
 
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