Dr. Rachel McKinnon / Dr. Veronica Ivy / Rhys McKinnon / Rachel Veronica McKinnon / Foxy Moxy / SportIsARight - failed out of a tenured job,man who competes in womens sports, gained like 100 lbs in 2022 (page 813), comically fell off bike before a race (page 830)

[anionfarflung]

Or the dislikes number is just fake. If every video has 4x as many dislikes as likes (within a rounding error margin), the extension is just faking it.

There's no way to get the real number of dislikes from YouTube's API. It only displays those to the creator of the video.

I think it's likely the selection bias in adopters of the addon is on the side of those who are wont to dislike.

 

[Cycleye]

Maybe with all of the push back and peaking, that is happening, we might end up seeing Rhys being asked the golden questions. It would be great if he ended up in a live interview thinking he was going to get his peanut nibbled to only have a new arsehole torn out of him.

Were you or were you not born a man? A simple yes or no please Ms. Ivy.

Biologically speaking you are still a man. How can you possibly now be a female? Please explain this Ms.Ivy.

All Rhys has got in his deck is "my bus pass says i am female" or something equally stupid.

That can be followed with Rhys being told he is only female on a few bits of paper because he asked for that and paid for it to happen. Argument over and don't let the door bang you on the way out, Ms.Ivy.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

It's a deductive argument that is valid (the conclusions necessarily follow from the premise) but not sound (the premise that the argument is based on is not true). A conclusion is only truly proven if the argument is both. This goes into the basics pretty well. The example from that link:

Daffy Duck is a duck.​

All ducks are mammals.​

Therefore, Daffy Duck is a mammal.​

That's a valid argument (the conclusion follows from the first two statements) but it's not sound, because ducks are not mammals.

Similarly, Rhys' argument is:

Trans women are women.​

Women have the right to compete in sports against other women.​

Therefore, trans women have the right to compete in sports against other women.​

Same thing: valid argument, but based on a false premise (trans women are not actually women).

You articulated my point far better than I did.

Ironically (given Rhys' former profession) this is literally the type of thing they teach in intro philosophy courses.

Really highlights the fact that he was purely a diversity hire.

Possibly the best part of this is Rhys newest asspull: you can't institute rules until it's proven that men have an advantage (by using my specific criteria that makes it impossible to study), he's already tiptoeing towards "there weren't any rules so it's the people adding rules who are the radicals changing sport" so he can establish the norm that any kind of divisional categories can simply be declared into by anyone who wishes to express their human right to sport as if these always were the norm.

What's extra funny is that Rhys and these others don't seem to realize that many of their allies don't accept their "we need to keep gender categories but allow anyone to enter who wishes" position but instead start advocating for eliminating gender divisions or any other. The allies think Rhys (and so on) is acting in good faith on principle rather than trying to exploit the rules so he can compete in a lesser division but if he "wins" it's more likely he just gets washed out completely since he couldn't compete with men.

I like how he avoids the question whenever someone brings it up.

I mean, that's the clever thing about using this kind of argument where you build on "trans women are women" as a foundational premise and argue "logically" from there. Coming out and saying "no they're not" has been banned from all mainstream media and tech platforms. It's unspeakable in all our major educational and medical and government institutions due to relentless and powerful lobbying. If an individual defies that and comes out and says it regardless, they are aggressively targeted with the intent of absolutely ruining them.

This targeting isn't accidental: the premise MUST be upheld and any dissent MUST be crushed, because TRAs have spent decades building everything else on top of this lie.

There are plenty of media outlets that would at least hint at it. If you read any right-wing newspaper, maybe they won’t say “trans women are actually men,” but you can tell it’s what they’re implying. And the comments section is there to outright say it.

Not that Rhys would let himself be interviewed by such an organisation.

 

[White Lead]

Maybe with all of the push back and peaking, that is happening, we might end up seeing Rhys being asked the golden questions. It would be great if he ended up in a live interview thinking he was going to get his peanut nibbled to only have a new arsehole torn out of him.

Were you or were you not born a man? A simple yes or no please Ms. Ivy.

Biologically speaking you are still a man. How can you possibly now be a female? Please explain this Ms.Ivy.

All Rhys has got in his deck is "my bus pass says i am female" or something equally stupid.

That can be followed with Rhys being told he is only female on a few bits of paper because he asked for that and paid for it to happen. Argument over and don't let the door bang you on the way out, Ms.Ivy.

Or, if he pulls the "mY pAperS SaY 'F'" -- "So what about the time before the change, when your legal documents identified you as male? Since you now argue your legal documents proof you are female, does that mean before the change you were male, thus born male, because your bc said 'M'?

But then, he'll probably pull something like "gender assigned by doctors don't count" or something. He is simply incapable of intellectual honesty.

It must be exhausting having him as a guest on a show when you're not allowed to call the emperor naked and call him out on all his BS.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Or, if he pulls the "mY pAperS SaY 'F'" -- "So what about the time before the change, when your legal documents identified you as male? Since you now argue your legal documents proof you are female, does that mean before the change you were male, thus born male, because your bc said 'M'?

But then, he'll probably pull something like "gender assigned by doctors don't count" or something. He is simply incapable of intellectual honesty.

It must be exhausting having him as a guest on a show when you're not allowed to call the emperor naked and call him out on all his BS.

His arguments are basically Whac-A-Mole. He has responses to individual points, but taken together, they contradict each other. It would be fun to ask him to give a detailed overview of his trans women in sports views, then point out where it contradicts things he’s said or troon orthodoxy.

 

[White Lead]

His arguments are basically Whac-A-Mole. He has responses to individual points, but taken together, they contradict each other. It would be fun to ask him to give a detailed overview of his trans women in sports views, then point out where it contradicts things he’s said or troon orthodoxy.

It's sad to see that the media are so spineless that they won't challenge someone over obvious contradictions. Heck, a talkshow host just needs to reed for an hour about basic philosophical fallacies, because Rees' fails at that low level.

Not surprising, but it still is incredibly infuriating. Challenging a viewpoint and the person failing to make coherent arguments to back their position up, thus embarassing themselves after they agreed to appear on the show sadly nowadays is seen as "opPREssshun" and a hate crime probably, not a failure on behalf of the person.


However -- It's glorious when hell freezes over and the litmus test for a spine is positive, though.

Spoiler: offtopic media anecdote

I remember when during a talkshow they cornered a "big name" journalist (as in writes for big outlets, and if you follow some of big newspapers, you've stumbled across his name around here probably) to admit that he never even watched the full speech who was deemed racist/xenophobic or anything because a misspoken passage was taken out of context. Some journos and "intellectuals" then wrote an open letter said person also signed - without fact checking. The speech was then played in full, with context, and he had to admit he never watched it.

Can't say if it was a scripted stunt, the seething of him seemed genuine, and it was glorious. On par with Rees seething over the women he cheated ostracizing him.

 

[REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!]

Just a fun little comparison.


EDIT: I forgot to add this one

 

[JULAY]

Just a fun little comparison.
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PTSD Survivor!



January 2017: the start of the Krasnoff Offensive.

That date has stuck with Rhys, a Philosophy Veteran who was working at the College of Charleston in South Carolina at the time. “Horrific things were happening — one right after the other,” he says. "They tried to make me go to staff meetings. And then they... they expected me to teach more than a half time load of classes. The horror... The horror..."

Things came to a head when Rhys got his last performance evaluation. "Krasnoff said that I hadn't been meeting the department's expectations. All the rhetorical minefields I crossed didn't matter to him. All of the transphobes I faced, all of the TERFs I screeched at and got cancelled meant nothing. I went on sabbatical and the total lack of responsibility really did wonders for my mental health. Then they tried to make me go back into the academic trenches. I wouldn't go back, I COULDN'T go back... It got so bad I faked a video trying to get them to keep paying me for doing nothing. My hand was shaking so fucking bad... but I was so traumatized that I forgot to have the camera hand shake too." Finally, in desperation, he leaked his performance evaluation, hoping against hope that he could use it to call his department head a transphobe. But it only made things worse.

And like many of his fellow Philosophy Veterans, he didn’t experience a warm welcome when returning home from the academic war. “It got to the point where if anybody asked me if I was in the US, I would just say no,” Rhys says, “because I didn’t want to hear what was going to follow if I said yes.” He has put his academic service behind him and tried to move on. But the ghosts of academia follow him to this day. Sometimes at night, he hears the disgusted taunts from his former colleagues. He has only found one respite: Mountains of Timbits and All-Dressed chips. "I know that I'm destroying myself. But as long as I know that I can still crush women half my size and half my age, I can make it through another day."

 

[The Final Troondown]

the nick robinson interview was fantastic
the sheer PANIC in his eyes as he realises he's not getting softballed, he has to defend his stupid arguments and he can't just scream TRANSPHOBE and hit the block button

SHOOK

 

[KiwiFuzz]

There are two sides:

*Males do have a physical advantage over females

*Males do not have a physical advantage over females

I feel like forcing troons a la Rhys to go through either of these doors would be a trap for them.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

There are two sides:

*Males do have a physical advantage over females

*Males do not have a physical advantage over females

I feel like forcing troons a la Rhys to go through either of these doors would be a trap for them.

They think they have a way out of this though. Cite a whole bunch of random shit in a flurry to create the case that it's hypothetically possible for a specific male to have no advantage over the class of female by some standard then use acceptance of the existence of an outlier to swallow the entire category. They want to force you to test in order to exclude someone from the category while bemoaning the inhumanity of submitting people to a test and then use outliers that will "unfairly" fail the test to prevent you from testing period.

The whole thing is trying to leverage a refusal to end sex segregation into requiring self ID as the only acceptable standard for participation. Anything else is just being raised so it can eliminate other proposed standards as unacceptable in some way.

 

[Actinidia]

As if the mere fact that an obese middle-aged man (who can barely stay on his bicycle) is getting on podiums at all vs. fit women half his age doesn't prove, once and for all, that sex differences are immutable.

But moving on, if the effects of testosterone magically go away after a certain number of months, why is it unacceptable to juice? Seems like as long as it was at least 24 months ago, anything goes, right?

 

[David Glowie]

The whole thing is trying to leverage a refusal to end sex segregation into requiring self ID as the only acceptable standard for participation. Anything else is just being raised so it can eliminate other proposed standards as unacceptable in some way.

What they've never explained is why, if it's all so arbitrary, the women's category should even exist at all.

 

[The Final Troondown]

As if the mere fact that an obese middle-aged man (who can barely stay on his bicycle) is getting on podiums at all vs. fit women half his age doesn't prove, once and for all, that sex differences are immutable.

But moving on, if the effects of testosterone magically go away after a certain number of months, why is it unacceptable to juice? Seems like as long as it was at least 24 months ago, anything goes, right?

this is currently a big issue in some sports; juicers were being banned for a few years and then allowed back, and then research came out showing increased androgen receptor density a decade after last use
Testosterone weirdly has a kind of reverse tolerance; as your levels go up your body produces more receptor sites allowing you to get more bang per mg
even if you go natural, your natural testosterone will be more effective

 

[Positron]

Were you or were you not born a man? A simple yes or no please Ms. Ivy.

He answered this already and the answer is NO. No one has ever been born a man or a woman because no one was born adult.

And if you follow this with "were you born male or female", I guess his answer would be "I don't know my ontological status at my time of birth; I merely repeat what the doctor told my parents until I had enough presence of mind to know. And as long as I know, I am female."

 

[JULAY]

He answered this already and the answer is NO. No one has ever been born a man or a woman because no one was born adult.

And if you follow this with "were you born male or female", I guess his answer would be "I don't know my ontological status at my time of birth; I merely repeat what the doctor told my parents until I had enough presence of mind to know. And as long as I know, I am female."

There's an easy enough way around that: "Were you born with a penis?"

He can hem and haw and start in about how genitals have nothing to do with gender, how some women have penises, etc. But everyone in the audience who isn't a woketard will get the message immediately.

 

[REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!]

There's an easy enough way around that: "Were you born with a penis?"

He can hem and haw and start in about how genitals have nothing to do with gender, how some women have penises, etc. But everyone in the audience who isn't a woketard will get the message immediately.

I like seeing him out there demanding people make the leap from wanting to be nice to the clearly disturbed man in a peekaboo top and harem pants, to allowing that same beardy fuck to change and shower with your daughter at the municipal pool. Everybody knows a troon, they are damn near ubiquitous now, but unlike 2019 must of us have a personal example that we have to keep an eye on. Rhys will take every single opportunity to force people to accept that deranged soul as a frail and delicate flower. Maybe he thinks troons are less prevalent than they are now, or maybe he thinks people are still afraid of getting cancelled. Whatever his reasoning, it is his nature and I think that's his single redeeming characteristic.

Somehow that soulless prick is doing the Lord's work. Glory Hallelujah.

 

[Next Task]

I'm a bit less optimistic about Rhys being able to peak trans people after a conversation last night with two friends. One honestly believes that the only thing holding women athletes back is they haven't had decades of training and support, and that some time in the next decade we'll see biological women beating men, and world records. The other was saying that there's not two sexes, and that the differences between men and women are solely reproduction-based and not relevant, talking from a perspective of having to deal with children who claim to be non-binary or transgender, specifically referring to an 11 year old girl in one instance.

All the stuff troons are doing, like our darling Rhys here? Irrelevant, a minority, not real. No matter what I brought up, if it went against their beliefs (the Williams sisters version of Battle of the Sexes, that teenage boys routinely beat world record female times), the argument constantly fell at the first hurdle, that biological sex is real and that there's a distinct physical difference between the two.

It was a friendly discussion after a lot of alcohol, but that blanket denial of anything I offered as a counterpoint that went too far against their established narratives was disheartening. I at least got one to borrow my copy of Irreversible Damage, but these compassionate people are dealing with young genderspecials and unhappy children and uncritically accepting those points of view, rather than being concerned about what and how these things come about.

It started because I challenged a throwaway negative comment about JK Rowling, but that's also part of the problem - there's certain opinions and statements you're just expected to let slide if you don't want to make every conversation an argument. And sane people aren't willing to stop and fight every minor comment that's not to their liking, because unlike troons we're aware that it's a very unpleasant thing to make everything a hill to die on, and force every conversation to go the way you want it to.

Here's hoping Abigail Shrier can do a lot of the work drunken me couldn't.

 

[Clem Fandango]

Somehow that soulless prick is doing the Lord's work. Glory Hallelujah.

The soulless prick that's also a prickless soul.

 

[artilleryfroth]

I'm a bit less optimistic about Rhys being able to peak trans people after a conversation last night with two friends. One honestly believes that the only thing holding women athletes back is they haven't had decades of training and support, and that some time in the next decade we'll see biological women beating men, and world records. The other was saying that there's not two sexes, and that the differences between men and women are solely reproduction-based and not relevant, talking from a perspective of having to deal with children who claim to be non-binary or transgender, specifically referring to an 11 year old girl in one instance.

All the stuff troons are doing, like our darling Rhys here? Irrelevant, a minority, not real. No matter what I brought up, if it went against their beliefs (the Williams sisters version of Battle of the Sexes, that teenage boys routinely beat world record female times), the argument constantly fell at the first hurdle, that biological sex is real and that there's a distinct physical difference between the two.

It was a friendly discussion after a lot of alcohol, but that blanket denial of anything I offered as a counterpoint that went too far against their established narratives was disheartening. I at least got one to borrow my copy of Irreversible Damage, but these compassionate people are dealing with young genderspecials and unhappy children and uncritically accepting those points of view, rather than being concerned about what and how these things come about.

It started because I challenged a throwaway negative comment about JK Rowling, but that's also part of the problem - there's certain opinions and statements you're just expected to let slide if you don't want to make every conversation an argument. And sane people aren't willing to stop and fight every minor comment that's not to their liking, because unlike troons we're aware that it's a very unpleasant thing to make everything a hill to die on, and force every conversation to go the way you want it to.

Here's hoping Abigail Shrier can do a lot of the work drunken me couldn't.

I feel you. I had a conversation recently with a woman in her forties who genuinely believes that a little girl might really be a boy because she was running around playing soccer with the boys instead of playing dollies. This woman told me that “blood studies show some girls produce the opposite sex hormones so they really are boys”. This woman is raising two of our next generation.
Nothing I said made any impact on her. She watches a lot of TV.