If the internet was around in the 60's, would it kill the civil rights movement or accelerate it?

[Skitarii]

And would watergate have even been a thing?

 

[potato in mah painus]

It would have accelerated it, back in the day you didn't see black people and minorities acting worse then chimpanzees in the major cities. The violence that was unleashed on the civil rights protests would have also gotten a lot wider signal and a LOT more outrage.

 

[Maiseisinthetea]

Depends who was running the internet. The Left had a head start on our timelines internet which is one of the reasons so many people are Leftists now. Had the Christian Right been running it back then I think it's more likely that things wouldn't have changed that much in the time aside from some better living conditions. At the very least we wouldn't have the forced assimilation we have now.

 

[Toolbox]

Depends who was running the internet. The Left had a head start on our timelines internet which is one of the reasons so many people are Leftists now. Had the Christian Right been running it back then I think it's more likely that things wouldn't have changed that much in the time aside from some better living conditions. At the very least we wouldn't have the forced assimilation we have now.

In the case of any side controlling the web, the development of such instant and wide reaching communication only causes any kind of idea to accelerate. Either that or be pummeled quicker by whomever has more power over it.

 

[Ishtar]

Not kill it, but definitely prevent its institutionalization. Negro savagery and terrorism would have been widely available, whereas actual knowledge of what was going on was suppressed and hidden by the press.

 

[Ser Prize]

It would have accelerated it, back in the day you didn't see black people and minorities acting worse then chimpanzees in the major cities. The violence that was unleashed on the civil rights protests would have also gotten a lot wider signal and a LOT more outrage.

Imagine the LA riots of the 90's with internet coverage.

 

[Abradolfus_Linclerson]

Not kill it, but definitely prevent its institutionalization. Negro savagery and terrorism would have been widely available, whereas actual knowledge of what was going on was suppressed and hidden by the press.

I think you’re conflating Current Year ‘Murican blacks with those of the MLK era. Decades of LBJ’s ‘Great Society’ bullshit hadn’t destroyed the black family or hollowed out black communities.

I’m absolutely open to being wrong about this, but was gang culture as a substitute for fathers a thing to the degree it is now? I thought the 13/50 stat was a relatively recent phenomenon…

I do agree, though, that the internet’s effect on civil rights would absolutely have been determined by who controlled the narratives of the day.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

The internet never would've caught on in the 60's. Everyone's mom still lived and worked at home, so there'd be no chance for pron to take off. Without pron and thot streamers, the 1960's internet would just consist of housewives sharing recipes and nerds talking about that new Doctor Who show. The worst of all worlds, basically.

 

[Ser Prize]

I think you’re conflating Current Year ‘Murican blacks with those of the MLK era. Decades of LBJ’s ‘Great Society’ bullshit hadn’t destroyed the black family or hollowed out black communities.

I’m absolutely open to being wrong about this, but was gang culture as a substitute for fathers a thing to the degree it is now? I thought the 13/50 stat was a relatively recent phenomenon…

I do agree, though, that the internet’s effect on civil rights would absolutely have been determined by who controlled the narratives of the day.

Don't kid yourself. The blacks of MLK era were the exact same. MLK himself was a grifter who had all his speeches pre-written, had orgies while on campaign and warned that if black people didn't get reparations they'd march on washington.

 

[Wormy]

It would have killed it deader than fried chicken.

MLK himself was a grifter

So was Trump, but plenty of people still honor him to this day and say he did great things. I can acknowledge that and still like the guy.

 

[roblox gay nazi sex club]

would've killed civil rights 20 years earlier than it currently is

 

[Stabmaster Arson]

The internet never would've caught on in the 60's. Everyone's mom still lived and worked at home, so there'd be no chance for pron to take off. Without pron and thot streamers, the 1960's internet would just consist of housewives sharing recipes and nerds talking about that new Doctor Who show. The worst of all worlds, basically.

So 90s internet.

Take me back.

 

[butth3ad]

If the internet started out in the 60s, then most of the users would have been academics, in government facilities, or people who were capable of hooking up a personal computer. I wouldn't think everyone would have the internet outright, especially with the fact that personal Computers were less-than-capable and inaccessible at that time. You would have had stuff like Usenet, but that stuff was only intended for a small clique.
Considering everything here, it would probably affect it little to none. (Still, would you think negroid savages were able to operate computers back then?)

 

[DicksOutForKiwigglers]

I think you’re conflating Current Year ‘Murican blacks with those of the MLK era. Decades of LBJ’s ‘Great Society’ bullshit hadn’t destroyed the black family or hollowed out black communities.

I’m absolutely open to being wrong about this, but was gang culture as a substitute for fathers a thing to the degree it is now? I thought the 13/50 stat was a relatively recent phenomenon…

I do agree, though, that the internet’s effect on civil rights would absolutely have been determined by who controlled the narratives of the day.

Blacks have more or less always been a problem and overly represented in crime, it's just now things are more fucked than they ever were before because the few things niggers had to make them at least somewhat civilized are being pulled away and replaced with entitlement. But don't get confused; people back then wouldn't have put up with niggers if they widely knew what the stats were in their time. We put up with it now because we've been slow boiled.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

Depends who was running the internet. The Left had a head start on our timelines internet which is one of the reasons so many people are Leftists now. Had the Christian Right been running it back then I think it's more likely that things wouldn't have changed that much in the time aside from some better living conditions. At the very least we wouldn't have the forced assimilation we have now.

did you just join the internet in 2017?

while the internet was absurdly atheist, what was considered "leftist" in 2014 was basically everything up to and including Nick Fuentes talking points.

seriously, even reddit had front page posts about the 13/50 as recently as 2014, and while the JQ wasn't talked about, people were allowed to talk shit about minorities and women. what BAP is preaching now was just considered regular thought a decade ago when it came to women and coloreds. A&H's typical viewpoints were normie for 2013. you'd have to go to SRS to see someone calling their fedposting "offensive". Basically as long as you didn't declare yourself a Republican you could say whatever about whatever group you wanted. "kill all the faggots" was on the frontpage of reddit for a little while as was the "niggers" ducktales parody back then. but even if you said "i hate niggers and faggots and want them to die" people wouldn't assume you were republican nor treat you as such. so most of the alt-right today would be considered "leftists" just because they aren't part of the cuckservatives and probably have a hate boner towards the Mcconnell and Romneys in control of the party.

The Chimpire, while whined about, was just openly saying what most people online were using soft language to talk about. one of my favorite prank phonecall sites of 2004 was called "phone pride worldwide" and although they weren't spreading WN talking points the fact that that's the phrase the side used and the calls made showed they were softly influencing people about race relations.

For fucks sake the only reason Bill clinton was impeached was because of the internet in the 90s, its also why popular culture really quadrupled down on how evil and awful internet users were back then, Andrew Brietbart and Matt Drudge were the pewdiepie of their day.

as for the question at hand, if it was the overt controlled internet of this decade no. but if it was the free internet of a decade ago, where you could be as weird and evil as you wanted on major forums on sites like blockland, reddit, digg. 100% the civil rights movement would have died. I remember how quickly people were defending Zimmerman and calling out Michael Brown when those two chimp-related events happened.

the only real difference between pol and reddit when it came to zimmerman coverage was 4chan allowed you to use naughty words.

people would have reacted towards the MLK riots and "summer of love" the same way us on this very site feel about the modern "summer of love"

 

[Maiseisinthetea]

did you just join the internet in 2017?

while the internet was absurdly atheist, what was considered "leftist" in 2014 was basically everything up to and including Nick Fuentes talking points.

seriously, even reddit had front page posts about the 13/50 as recently as 2014, and while the JQ wasn't talked about, people were allowed to talk shit about minorities and women. what BAP is preaching now was just considered regular thought a decade ago when it came to women and coloreds. A&H's typical viewpoints were normie for 2013. you'd have to go to SRS to see someone calling their fedposting "offensive". Basically as long as you didn't declare yourself a Republican you could say whatever about whatever group you wanted. "kill all the faggots" was on the frontpage of reddit for a little while as was the "niggers" ducktales parody back then. but even if you said "i hate niggers and faggots and want them to die" people wouldn't assume you were republican nor treat you as such. so most of the alt-right today would be considered "leftists" just because they aren't part of the cuckservatives and probably have a hate boner towards the Mcconnell and Romneys in control of the party.

The Chimpire, while whined about, was just openly saying what most people online were using soft language to talk about. one of my favorite prank phonecall sites of 2004 was called "phone pride worldwide" and although they weren't spreading WN talking points the fact that that's the phrase the side used and the calls made showed they were softly influencing people about race relations.

For fucks sake the only reason Bill clinton was impeached was because of the internet in the 90s, its also why popular culture really quadrupled down on how evil and awful internet users were back then, Andrew Brietbart and Matt Drudge were the pewdiepie of their day.

as for the question at hand, if it was the overt controlled internet of this decade no. but if it was the free internet of a decade ago, where you could be as weird and evil as you wanted on major forums on sites like blockland, reddit, digg. 100% the civil rights movement would have died. I remember how quickly people were defending Zimmerman and calling out Michael Brown when those two chimp-related events happened.

the only real difference between pol and reddit when it came to zimmerman coverage was 4chan allowed you to use naughty words.

people would have reacted towards the MLK riots and "summer of love" the same way us on this very site feel about the modern "summer of love"

Yeah I didn't start getting into internet politics till 2016.

Being 25 does that. That's interesting though,I'd always known the internet was a wild waste land back then but I had no idea it was that open.

 

[SPhobos]

would deadheads be the bronies of their time

 

[Kramer on the phone]

Yeah I didn't start getting into internet politics till 2016.

Being 25 does that. That's interesting though,I'd always known the internet was a wild waste land back then but I had no idea it was that open.

i mean thats not really an excuse, a lot of dead forums have been archived in some way, and even listening to podcasts or watching videos from back then you'd be able to see what it was like back then. even reddit, if you find anything from more than 8 years ago, just look through the comments, again its just /pol/ with the naughty words filter on. the same way null wouldn't let us use retarded but people still understood what people meant.

as much as people mock it, internet wise August 2014 was the turning point. 4chan lost aganist tumblr and the split between 4chan and 8chan affected quality posts. but even revenge porn wasn't considered criminal back then and you were mocked as a SJW or PC-police for suggesting it should be. i remember even in the most normie places online people just told incels to fuck drunk chicks. the idea of it being a crime was bizarre, plenty of "leftists" from that era were perfectly fine talking about how awful blacks and jews were and that raping women shouldnt be a crime, and literally it wasn't a big deal because it was considered banter, and banter was leftist which meant it was allowed, once they decided free speech was for conservatives actually it became bad. The same way the left decided closing down mental hospitals was bad despite it being the 20th century version of illegal immigration in terms of how much of an essential belief it was for leftists all because they bullied conservatives into agreeing about it.

speaking of illegal immigration, look up how the daily show, snl, bill maher, and everyone else treated the ellian gonzalez bullshit. Everyone had the same opinions as trump does today, in fact his opinion would have been considered lefty back then. and that was only a year before 9/11.


stuff like values and beliefs for TPTB are just tools, people wonder why blacks will defend any thug but never criticize when nigs beat up asians. but its because ethnocentrism helps you learn that behavior. Only whites on the right have values everyone else just says whatever as long as it helps their main cause.

Its what people have only realized now when it comes to school shootings, but its most issues. Its why women who have never let a guy shoot cum inside them care about abortion, they don't give a fuck about abortion its about limiting women or giving women the L. Same reason people here jerked their dicks raw to Johnny Depp winning in court. Look back at threads about him from before this year, everyone agreed he was a faggot who deserved to suffer. Yet its all about getting a perceived W over cunts and cancel culture.

its like they said about kikes "kikes believe in free speech when they don't have power and will limit yours once they are on top because its about using whatever to achieve their goals they don't believe in anything but what will give them power"

So yes the internet was truly what people your age probably consider "an alt-right paradise" but only because these values used to be something kikes like sarah silverman embraced. just like the supreme court or anything else.

 

[Sicklick]

You do realize DARPANET was launched in 1969, right? Internet was already a thing in the '70s. Before that, computers were all analog, be it mechanical like the Antikythera mechanism or the Norden bombsight, or electromechanical. Analog computers used physical data while digital computers use discrete data (0's and 1's). They go back to Ancient Greece. The first one was used to predict astronomical cycles, such as eclipses, sometimes 10 years in advance. Analog computers were used as a model of reality and each computer had a different purpose. In the 1700s, you had semophores/optical telegraphy using "nodes" consisting of mechanical arms and encoded alignments to send out lettered messages during the French Revolution. Some have referred to it as the "mechanical internet". The term "semophore" was later used for traffic lights - another example. In truth, we've always had IoT. It just depends on what your definition of "internet" means. Even a credit card can send SOS if you're stuck on some island. Just flash it under the sunlight so an airplane can see you on a deserted island or sinking ship. Reflection/refraction. Even a mirror could be another example. Take a laser pointer, point it through a magnifying glass and you can see how light travels. Or you can make a camera obscura and form an upside-down image which was used during the Renaissance era for paintings.

It's funny what you can do with light and reflection. But even then, computers were generally not used for internet in the 1960s, they were used for maths, programming, in some cases, primitive games (see Tennis for Two) and military/statistical/astronomy stuff. So again, calculations. "Internet" if you were to adopt it merely as a communicative medium like it is now (such as the website you're using now) would be, again, stuff like smoke signals and the like. A flare gun is basically mechanical internet. Maybe the Nazis could've hijacked a spotlight in New York and placed a cutout with a Hakenkreuz on it and shined it over the nighttime sky of Brooklyn to drop some kosher redpills or something. Point being? Internet has always existed to some degree or another.

 

[A Logging Company]

You do realize DARPANET was launched in 1969, right? Internet was already a thing in the '70s. Before that, computers were all analog, be it mechanical like the Antikythera mechanism or the Norden bombsight, or electromechanical. Analog computers used physical data while digital computers use discrete data (0's and 1's). They go back to Ancient Greece. The first one was used to predict astronomical cycles, such as eclipses, sometimes 10 years in advance. Analog computers were used as a model of reality and each computer had a different purpose. In the 1700s, you had semophores/optical telegraphy using "nodes" consisting of mechanical arms and encoded alignments to send out lettered messages during the French Revolution. Some have referred to it as the "mechanical internet". The term "semophore" was later used for traffic lights - another example. In truth, we've always had IoT. It just depends on what your definition of "internet" means. Even a credit card can send SOS if you're stuck on some island. Just flash it under the sunlight so an airplane can see you on a deserted island or sinking ship. Reflection/refraction. Even a mirror could be another example. Take a laser pointer, point it through a magnifying glass and you can see how light travels. Or you can make a camera obscura and form an upside-down image which was used during the Renaissance era for paintings.

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It's funny what you can do with light and reflection. But even then, computers were generally not used for internet in the 1960s, they were used for maths, programming, in some cases, primitive games (see Tennis for Two) and military/statistical/astronomy stuff. So again, calculations. "Internet" if you were to adopt it merely as a communicative medium like it is now (such as the website you're using now) would be, again, stuff like smoke signals and the like. A flare gun is basically mechanical internet. Maybe the Nazis could've hijacked a spotlight in New York and placed a cutout with a Hakenkreuz on it and shined it over the nighttime sky of Brooklyn to drop some kosher redpills or something. Point being? Internet has always existed to some degree or another.

Wow you sure know a lot about the history of computing!

Yes faggot, computer networks are about as old as modern electric binary computers. But those networks were limited to military, academic, and corporate business use.The OP meant widely available consumer access to a unified computer network, in other words the modern Internet.

The Boomers had their "Internet" of sorts, a disruptive technology that forever altered society and created a big generational gap between them and older generations, it was called television.