Furry Fandom and Drama General

[Colorado Fur]

Gonna double post as I'm #Triggered & MITA, you win:

If someone paints theirself as an arbiter of communal justice, but doesn't want to hear any further when somebody comes forward to privately to disclose how they were abused as a child, solely because their pre-conception of the pedophile is that they're 'on the right side' from parroting talking points you agree with, they deserve neither influence nor respect. Especially when that person's prior convictions were already in the purview of both Boozy & DPP.

I had logs & evidence of all of this I could've easily shared but I was met with immediate dismissal from DPP assuming it was some alt-right ops and Boozy assuming I was trying to help a competitor to InkedFur (presumably paw2press?) who'd approached him to take IFs spot when somebody else had put a callout on Sangie prior to the zoosadist expose.

Assuming a victim of child grooming was making a callout post as a form of clout chasing as in the post above, when in reality I chose to approach it privately to not put either individual in an odd position publicly & out of fear of repercussions for me as I was still a dependent, is gross. I later did contribute logs / evidence to getting Nelizar incarcerated and had to deal with the shit he told me as a kid like when he said he wanted to carve me up with a knife all with a smiling ':3' to punctuate it. GFYS!

TL;DR no evidence to actually post, and everything else stems from your own inability to do the work you expect from strangers.

You're no different from any other callouter, no matter how much magic you wish could happen from claiming entitlement to social justice. Get it through your head that not all work you want can actually be done by strangers who aren't the police.

Sweet summer child, do you know why Sangie had his record expunged, and what it means when he works for the Texas government? Riddle me this: why does evidence about people like Sangie or Taofox come out on Kiwifarms instead of from people with names and addresses?

 

[Dahmer]

Translation: Shout out to the time a half-ass, dime a dozen callout was spammed at a much larger account to boost off it like a stepping stone, but it lacked proper presentation to do anything about it.

It's the plague of extremely-online furries. They expect their enemies to be slain as if by magic.

I know that was part of DPP's entire year of research for a 5 part report about the zoosadists which took a year because of doing background interviews and cross referencing hundreds of pages of evidence. The logs breakdown made it possible for others to do work like this thread. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/besti...odywork-denver-archimedes-banya-denver.97488/ It must feel bad that callouts don't work like magic but people who do the work understand.

The Taofox evidence was unusable to build a legal case, possibly from how it was obtained, and internet investigation doesn't have legal power to access evidence that the cops can. Even so, persistent work can accomplish things, but it must be lined up just right and many times can't be. If the cops didn't do it, don't expect someone else to do it. I'll take my credit now for the thread leading to the dissolving of a million dollar business of a zoo ring leader. Please, for the love of jesus, stop expecting magic callouts.

Nigga, Sangie isn't just a case of a personal drama callout. He has prior criminal convictions for trying to sexually assault a minor. The fact that it took his proximity to zoosadists for him to lose his reputation is a dark reflection on the fandom and especially on the people who ignored attempts to report his history of preying on minors.

 

[Colorado Fur]

Nigga, Sangie isn't just a case of a personal drama callout. He has prior criminal convictions for trying to sexually assault a minor. The fact that it took his proximity to zoosadists for him to lose his reputation is a dark reflection on the fandom and especially on the people who ignored attempts to report his history of preying on minors.

His record is expunged. Get your facts straight, my nigga. While I deeply desire to argue more with morons who don't understand liability and legal process, the thread should get brought back on topic.

 

[Dahmer]

His record is expunged. Get your facts straight, my nigga.

How does that change the fact he was convicted of trying to assault a minor. He is still a pedophile, him working a plea deal so he was charged with a misdemeanor doesn't negate that he tried to rape a child.

Why is this the nigga you're going hard to defend?

 

[Furry Troon]

Get it through your head that not all work you want can actually be done by strangers who aren't the police.

I never asked them to incarcerate him dumbass. I just asked to be believed & I find it ethically gross that both individuals were willing to use their platforms to callout & criticize other bad actors, but swiftly dismissed child abuse accusations of a known-pedophile solely because he had stated he was reformed and posted the right political tweets.

 

[billydero]

Gonna double post as I'm #Triggered & MITA, you win:

If someone paints theirself as an arbiter of communal justice, but doesn't want to hear any further when somebody comes forward to privately to disclose how they were abused as a child, solely because their pre-conception of the pedophile is that they're 'on the right side' from parroting talking points you agree with, they deserve neither influence nor respect. Especially when that person's prior convictions were already in the purview of both Boozy & DPP.

I had logs & evidence of all of this I could've easily shared but I was met with immediate dismissal from DPP assuming it was some alt-right ops and Boozy assuming I was trying to help a competitor to InkedFur (presumably paw2press?) who'd approached him to take IFs spot when somebody else had put a callout on Sangie prior to the zoosadist expose.

Assuming a victim of child grooming was making a callout post as a form of clout chasing as in the post above, when in reality I chose to approach it privately to not put either individual in an odd position publicly & out of fear of repercussions for me as I was still a dependent, is gross. I later did contribute logs / evidence to getting Nelizar incarcerated and had to deal with the shit he told me as a kid like when he said he wanted to carve me up with a knife all with a smiling ':3' to punctuate it. GFYS!

Even though he'd BARELY gotten into the fandom, Boozy had already slipped right into the typical bullshit furry behavior pattern and policy of brushing off any reports of a furry being a pedo, a dogfucker, or just otherwise being a criminal because to believe you would ruin Boozy's fun. And he can't have that; without furry he's a depressed wreck.



Like every other furfag he doesn't want the fun times to ever end in his safe space sexy fandom so until the problem smacks him literally in the face, he won't do a damned thing.

Not that Boozy's behavior is the point of this, Sangie is the one who needs a good swift kick in the balls... but Boozy's actions are just one of many examples of the reasons why furries and their fandom have a shitty reputation. Perhaps if they'd just get over their party fandom someone could've helped.

 

[Sintharia]

Even though he'd BARELY gotten into the fandom, Boozy had already slipped right into the typical bullshit furry behavior pattern and policy of brushing off any reports of a furry being a pedo, a dogfucker, or just otherwise being a criminal because to believe you would ruin Boozy's fun. And he can't have that; without furry he's a depressed wreck.

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Like every other furfag he doesn't want the fun times to ever end in his safe space sexy fandom so until the problem smacks him literally in the face, he won't do a damned thing.

Not that Boozy's behavior is the point of this, Sangie is the one who needs a good swift kick in the balls... but Boozy's actions are just one of many examples of the reasons why furries and their fandom have a shitty reputation. Perhaps if they'd just get over their party fandom someone could've helped.

Boozy made the mistake of pushing his legal identity as he joined the fandom, and he can’t get out from under the shadow that it cast. Many furries see stuff get posted, give it a read over, and then go about their day. Boozy gets dragged into every little spat because he made himself the Furry Lawyer (tm).

And of course, people expect popufurs to weigh in on every bit of gossip and drama, like they’re holding high court and have to pass judgment upon the peasants.

 

[Furry Troon]

And of course, people expect popufurs to weigh in on every bit of gossip and drama, like they’re holding high court and have to pass judgment upon the peasants.

In the situation above Boozy was directly taking money from a pedophile to sponsor his blog rather than being dragged into unrelated drama

funniest article title that came of that btw | a

it even mentions the Mann Act which was used when prosecuting Sangie!

 

[wunhunglo]

In the situation above Boozy was directly taking money from a pedophile to sponsor his blog rather than being dragged into unrelated drama

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it even mentions the Mann Act which was used when prosecuting Sangie!

You're right, the things you're posting are full of red flags. The popufurs who ignored you must be corrupt and hypocritical.

Nah, dog. It's you.

Nobody is going to leap to be the personal army for a seething crazy person with just enough knowledge to name credible issues, but zero about practice.

Imagine if they did drop everything to join your cause. They won't get paid for extensive labor to vet and format your evidence to be effective. But they can enjoy a benefit. They can shell out cost to defend legal challenges on anything they publish about a lawyered up target like Sangie. If he could afford expunging, then you have no idea what defaming from a public identity could cost.

They may get sued and pay thousands before taking it down, even if they told the truth and have a perfectly defensible case, because there's no upside to paying much more to prevail with a judge. That's also professional risk for a lawyer, who isn't your ATM for pro-bono services while dropping his own clients to serve you.

Then if you start with them but don't get what you want, they get a triggered backlash callout from an ingrate who doesn't know how this works. You're seething with all the red flags.

ThEy sHouLd uSe tHeiR pLatfOrmS is such NPC speak.

Boozy, being a lawyer, knows all this instinctively as soon as you try to pull him in. So does DPP, who is not a stupid person and won a legal battle with vicious litigants. The people who run Kiwifarms know this and have the site set up to beat legal challenges, which is why things can post here without public identities. Boozy does law not callouts. If you want your issue serviced, then you need to pony up what it costs for the risk of taking it to real life court. Do you have 5 figures for it?

The more serious an issue is and the closer to liability it is to talk about, the less likely people like that will air it on some NPC platform like Twitter, and that's not fucking politics.

Personal armies and pro bono servants don't grow on trees. If you wanted an anon kiwifarms thread, step up and write it yourself or sit down, fag. SJW furries are such deeply fucked up and toxic people, while also being complete NPC's. Other people don't want to be their collateral damage.

Sometimes you just can't get social justice no matter what the complaint is, @Furry Troon . Temper your expectations and get a basic clue about how this works.

 

[Dahmer]

If he could afford expunging,

Getting records expunged isn't particularly expensive. I knew someone that had records expunged and it was around $500. Might vary by state but it certainly isn't something that smacks of him being loaded.

have no idea what defaming from a public identity could cost.

Nigga it's not defamation if it's true. He's a child molester, he was convicted on trying to rape a child and several chat logs have leaked of him still actively discussing wanting to fuck kids. This isn't something up for debate.

If you wanted an anon kiwifarms thread, step up and write it yourself or sit down, fag.

There is already a thread on Sangie, retard.

 

[wunhunglo]

Nigga it's not defamation if it's true. He's a child molester, he was convicted on trying to rape a child and several chat logs have leaked of him still actively discussing wanting to fuck kids. This isn't something up for debate.

I guess you can't fucking read, nigga. A person can sue for defamation no matter how true or false it is, you can try anti-SLAPP if there is protection in state but must prove they are a public figure, which you obviously don't understand the definition of either.

Your defense can cost you 5 figures before getting to a judge to rule on the truth of it, which isn't going to happen in 95% of cases because that's how often they settle out before trial. Whoever you expect to be your white knight isn't going to say "well that sure costs a lot but sure I will shell out for this random leech who came to me for a personal army." This is how frivolous litigants prey on people every day and they just have to file a few papers to get started. It isn't particularly expensive either.

It very much fucking is up for debate, because, news flash, Sangie was not convicted on these chat logs, and those alone don't make a case they will pursue. No conviction = civil liability for defamation per se, which includes accusing someone of a crime for which they weren't convicted.

If you don't have a sworn source for these chat logs, which you don't and never will, because they were obtained illegally, they aren't admissable. The same goes for any form of internet evidence not from a sworn source. You have screenshots? Worthless without the source's real name. Are they willing to testify? No? Then it's not admissible. Real life big boy justice doesn't work like you think and if you aren't ready to go there, sit down like the NPC you are.

None of this implies that someone will actually sue, it has to do with the viability of your complaint and whether it can go that far and win, because most can't. Then there's no point in doing more than a KF thread and people aren't going to spend the time because you think they should.

There is already a thread on Sangie, retard.

No shit, retard, which is why going to random public identity Twitter people for a personal army is the wrong thing to do.

 

[Furry Troon]

niggas in this thread nearly glowin with how much they're simping for the legal system & government over ethics

boozy in particular didn't even need to make a fuckin' callout, he could've quietly stopped taking IF money, but instead after I approached him he asked Sangie & Inkedfur staff their side and took Sangie's word that he was reformed at face value despite me providing evidence that he continued grooming me and other children after his prison time

but yeah, it should be expected that lawyers have as much of a hard-on for big brother as yall two

 

[jacklondon]

niggas in this thread nearly glowin with how much they're simping for the legal system & government over ethics

They're not "simping" they're telling you how it works in real life vs SJW belief.

When you sound ignorant and crazy, and anything someone says about your issue is saddled with liability, people should not engage. Maybe people didn't listen to you because you keep twisting words to exaggerate, then expect us to take your word about poor you being ignored.

 

[Furry Troon]

They're not "simping" they're telling you how it works in real life vs SJW belief.

"I think people suck for doing things that way"
"People do things that way"

okay retard amazing point

 

[Corn Flakes]

They're not "simping" they're telling you how it works in real life vs SJW belief.

When you sound ignorant and crazy, and anything someone says about your issue is saddled with liability, people should not engage. Maybe people didn't listen to you because you keep twisting words to exaggerate, then expect us to take your word about poor you being ignored.

Nah, bro. I'm not giving Dogpatch an inch here. If you see accusations, with evidence, that a known and convicted child molester is back to molesting children, you don't just ask the guy if he's back to diddling kids and take his word for it.

 

[Sintharia]

niggas in this thread nearly glowin with how much they're simping for the legal system & government over ethics

boozy in particular didn't even need to make a fuckin' callout, he could've quietly stopped taking IF money, but instead after I approached him he asked Sangie & Inkedfur staff their side and took Sangie's word that he was reformed at face value despite me providing evidence that he continued grooming me and other children after his prison time

but yeah, it should be expected that lawyers have as much of a hard-on for big brother as yall two

Oh no, a lawyer evaluated both sides of a story and decided which he felt was more credible. Next, we'll be hearing that Lou Gagliardi bought another iPad.

 

[jacklondon]

Nah, bro. I'm not giving Dogpatch an inch here. If you see accusations, with evidence, that a known and convicted child molester is back to molesting children, you don't just ask the guy if he's back to diddling kids and take his word for it.

That's what the triggered SJW said Boozy did (source "trust me bro"), don't be a mong and play chinese whispers. Evidence or GTFO, and explain how demanding callouts is entitled to get them. The more the insanity spreads here, the more it shows good judgement by people who wouldn't engage.

 

[Dahmer]

I guess you can't fucking read, nigga. A person can sue for defamation no matter how true or false it is, you can try anti-SLAPP if there is protection in state but must prove they are a public figure, which you obviously don't understand the definition of either.

Your defense can cost you 5 figures before getting to a judge to rule on the truth of it, which isn't going to happen in 95% of cases because that's how often they settle out before trial. Whoever you expect to be your white knight isn't going to say "well that sure costs a lot but sure I will shell out for this random leech who came to me for a personal army." This is how frivolous litigants prey on people every day and they just have to file a few papers to get started. It isn't particularly expensive either.

It very much fucking is up for debate, because, news flash, Sangie was not convicted on these chat logs, and those alone don't make a case they will pursue. No conviction = civil liability for defamation per se, which includes accusing someone of a crime for which they weren't convicted.

If you don't have a sworn source for these chat logs, which you don't and never will, because they were obtained illegally, they aren't admissable. The same goes for any form of internet evidence not from a sworn source. You have screenshots? Worthless without the source's real name. Are they willing to testify? No? Then it's not admissible. Real life big boy justice doesn't work like you think and if you aren't ready to go there, sit down like the NPC you are.

None of this implies that someone will actually sue, it has to do with the viability of your complaint and whether it can go that far and win, because most can't. Then there's no point in doing more than a KF thread and people aren't going to spend the time because you think they should.


No shit, retard, which is why going to random public identity Twitter people for a personal army is the wrong thing to do.

If Sangie actually had any means to sue anyone (he doesn't) he would have tried suing the farms or the people who've posted multiple Twitter threads on his pedophile convictions, notably because they ruined his business because he's lost his table at multiple conventions.

I don't think the tranny was expecting Boozy to sue him or legally act on his behalf. I think he informed Boozy because Boozy was taking money from the pedophile, advertising for him, and giving him a platform. And with Dogpatch being okay with posting callouts in regards to the zoosadist leaks (none of those people were convicted either, shit for brains), being unwilling to expose a known and convicted pedophile reeks of hypocrisy and only caring about one because it was "big news" in the fandom while the issue with Sangie had mostly been kept quiet.

 

[Corn Flakes]

That's what the triggered SJW said Boozy did (source "trust me bro"), don't be a mong and play chinese whispers. Evidence or GTFO, and explain how demanding callouts is entitled to get them. The more the insanity spreads here, the more it shows good judgement by people who wouldn't engage.

See, I don't really care about the source. Anyone who willingly associates with Sangie is a creep and deserves all the shit they cop for any accusations they receive.

I don't care about the furfag's allegations, I care that Dogpatch and Boozy were buddy-buddies with a convicted pedophile. Because these people never reform, they just get better at hiding their recidivism, so anyone who associates with and defends a pedo is by definition helping to cover for a predator.

 

[jacklondon]

Dogshit analysis in all cases here. If a fucking lawyer didn't know about pedo convictions before having a company sponsor his blog, and sanely deletes it instead of getting in the mud with you, how is a random twitter person supposed to be the personal army against someone who did not sponsor their blog and is not the same person you're conflating together? Sangie has a great deal of mentions in the zoosadist articles there by the way, shit for brains, just not as someone's personal army.

With the amount of bullshit, rumor, and fake SJW callouts swirling around it all, this is the typical chinese whispers, retrograde mushing together timelines, and grudging that makes people back away from talking to insane callouters. That's how it becomes a circle jerk with other retards on a cow forum.