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Ruin said:
This is a little conspiratorial for my tastes but I've seen some people say that looking at their body language and positioning it almost seems like they were guarding the exterior of the classrooms and hallway not to rescue kids but to prevent anyone form interfering with the shooter.
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They were doing that, yes, but that's SOP for barricade situations. But this clearly wasn't a static barricade situation from the ongoing sounds. Why none of them are on the radio screaming "STAND DOWN? BARRICADE? BULLSHIT!" and demanding CoC reassess given what the boots on the ground are hearing going on down the hall is beyond me.
 
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OrangeJuliusEvola said:
They were doing that, yes, but that's SOP for barricade situations. But this clearly wasn't a static barricade situation from the ongoing sounds. Why none of them are on the radio screaming "STAND DOWN? BARRICADE? BULLSHIT!" and demanding CoC reassess given what the boots on the ground are hearing going on down the hall is beyond me.
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Maybe they were just all cowards?
 
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Potatoherder said:
Anyone have any info on this guy? All i could find out is is a monarchist who is trying to become a anti-CRT grifter. He's been on the killstream a few times. https://archive.ph/f1pqY
Also looks a lot like he may be the bastard son of Neil Cavuto.
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I tried to find polling data from Patrick Basham. All that showed up were 2020 election era articles and the recent article about Trump being wrong about abortion hurting republicans. Barris tweeted about him twice in reference to abortion and the 2020 election.
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(Baron) Joseph Ford Cotto (currently of Pensacola, FL if I recall correctly)

I interacted with him a lot in 2020. He's a 30 year old jewish agnostic 'secular humanist' autist and published historian who is one of the few self-identified pro-choice socially liberal-ish 'Rockefeller Republicans' who actually support Trump rather than cuck to the left. He got the title of Baron from an African monarch who was touched by his steadfast defense. He believes that the American Revolution was a mistake and that the colonists should've stuck with Great Britain under perpetual monarchy. In the same way that some fantasize about being able to join in the Confederacy against the USA or being able to join the Nazis against the USA, he fantasizes about being able to join the British loyalists during the American Revolution.

One thing he frequently clashes with the online American right-wing with is the issue of abortion. He thinks it's important to keep the practice to prevent American demographics from going haywire (he believes it would cause a massive spike in crime and VoteBlueNoMatterWho people). Despite being socially liberal in the same way that many libs in the 2000s were, he nevertheless opposes the Democratic Party because he thinks it's too extreme in a 'woke' manner.

He lives in Florida (spent some time growing up in Pennsylvania) and believes (as I do) that DeSantis is overrated and would probably fare worse on the national spotlight than Trump if he (DeSantis) ever ran for President. One talking point Cotto brings up regularly is the notion that America now has an unprecedentedly large amount of "Cultural Democrat" aka Vote Blue No Matter Who voters who are increasingly steadily, making it increasingly more difficult for Republicans to win the Presidency. He thinks Trump is one of the few figures who can stem this tide because of his Rust Belt working class appeal. Eventually he expects Texas and Georgia and Arizona to be about as blue as Virginia because "of the ascendancy of the Cultural Democrat voter", making it super difficult for a Republican to win the Presidency .
 
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Meng De said:
Cowards very rarely interfere with any ongoing fighting like that. Quite the opposite, they usually welcome someone else doing the dangerous stuff.
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This kinda shit is exactly what has nudged me closer and closer to saying "This was absolutely fed shit". Every time a nice explanation explaining the situation was created that explained it in a non-fed manner... new evidence comes out making that prior explanation untenable.
 
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My Earnest Opinions said:
(Baron) Joseph Ford Cotto (currently of Pensacola, FL if I recall correctly)

I interacted with him a lot in 2020. He's a 30 year old jewish agnostic 'secular humanist' autist and published historian who is one of the few self-identified pro-choice socially liberal-ish 'Rockefeller Republicans' who actually support Trump rather than cuck to the left. He got the title of Baron from an African monarch who was touched by his steadfast defense. He believes that the American Revolution was a mistake and that the colonists should've stuck with Great Britain under perpetual monarchy. In the same way that some fantasize about being able to join in the Confederacy against the USA or being able to join the Nazis against the USA, he fantasizes about being able to join the British loyalists during the American Revolution.

One thing he frequently clashes with the online American right-wing with is the issue of abortion. He thinks it's important to keep the practice to prevent American demographics from going haywire (he believes it would cause a massive spike in crime and VoteBlueNoMatterWho people). Despite being socially liberal in the same way that many libs in the 2000s were, he nevertheless opposes the Democratic Party because he thinks it's too extreme in a 'woke' manner.

He lives in Florida (spent some time growing up in Pennsylvania) and believes (as I do) that DeSantis is overrated and would probably fare worse on the national spotlight than Trump if he (DeSantis) ever ran for President. One talking point Cotto brings up regularly is the notion that America now has an unprecedentedly large amount of "Cultural Democrat" aka Vote Blue No Matter Who voters who are increasingly steadily, making it increasingly more difficult for Republicans to win the Presidency. He thinks Trump is one of the few figures who can stem this tide because of his Rust Belt working class appeal. Eventually he expects Texas and Georgia and Arizona to be about as blue as Virginia because "of the ascendancy of the Cultural Democrat voter", making it super difficult for a Republican to win the Presidency .
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He sounds like an uppity faggot.

"Rockefeller Republican"? They're the reason we're in this mess. Shove his pimp cane up his ass and stuff him inside his top hat.
 
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Gehenna said:
Which would work... had the not physically stopped another officer from acting as his wife died, removed him, and disarmed him. That shows volition and compliance.
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Yeah but those other officers and parents weren't a threat, they'll follow orders like law abiding citizens.
 
Basil Julep said:
OK, so I'm like 10/10 cynical and paranoid compared to people I know IRL but maybe I'm still naive compared to the farmers here.

Could the fed involvement be somewhat innocent? Like the feds were aware the shooter was unstable and watching him but not ready for the actual event and then things just went sideways? Like the feds weren't actually trading little kids lives for political ends? They just fucked up?

If the feds knew about the guy ahead of time I could see them wanting to eliminate any chance the guy left something in the school that indicated they were in contact with him or something without it meaning that they were actually this psychopathic to let him actually kill some kids.

Or does some of the evidence really point to psychopathic glow?

Don't get me wrong, I'm open to the idea things are really that fucking bad. Until this conversation it just seemed more likely to me that everyone was a fuck up.
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Psychopathic glow. The stuff that implies glow op isn't what lead up to Uvalde but the actions of it. Cops doing nothing, paralyzed by orders to not do anything. The rapid nature of the attempts to cover the evidence. The variety of little facts leading to him having clear run of the school. Plus many other elements. They all just add up to a picture where someone outside of Uvalde had a hand in creating the situation. Not just failing to stop it, but active creation.
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Here’s the thing: when it comes to the government on this corner of Kiwi Farms, ALWAYS assume the worst and most nefarious scenario is at play and being argued by the users. The government is THAT hated here.
 
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For a lighter break comedian alexstein99 almost got punched by AOC for calling her "his favorite big booty Latina"
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He's been fucking with Reps all day.
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NGL, horse face, that is a a legit nice ass tho.

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Here’s the thing: when it comes to the government on this corner of Kiwi Farms, ALWAYS assume the worst and most nefarious scenario is at play and being argued by the users. The government is THAT hated here.
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Then give it 3-6 months and see us proven correct.
 
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JohnDoe said:
You do bring up one of the many disgusting lizard person traits that led to Clinton's self-own. She cannot stop being shady as fuck, and it seems impossible to make her cultists recognize that.

Even when she had absolutely positively no need to do anything underhanded to win the primary, she couldn't resist the temptation to cheat. Now, being a lawyer she can corkscrew her way through a line of logic wherein the DNC is not legally bound to actually hold a fair primary so technically it wasn't illegal and therefore perfectly okay, right? Except the American people aren't a group of legal scholars that will coolly nod their heads at the clever use of loopholes, but instead normal people that know a fucking rat when they see one and will respond by hating and distrusting that fucker.

Or with those speeches she gave to the big corporations and banks that she fought for months to keep secret. (Doing paid speeches when she knew she would be running for President is another matter of stupid.) Now, those speech transcripts weren't super flattering according to the documents from Wikileaks but what was infinitely more damaging was her stonewalling. It gave the appearance that she was hiding something, and let everyone spin the narrative that the transcripts would be her swearing allegiance to Satan. I mean, why else fight so hard to hide them? End result - nobody trusts your shady ass.

Then the email situation, which was an endless source of self-ownage so hard that we still are pulling apart that rat-king of a shady clusterfuck!

The lesson is: Don't act like you are a big cheating shady ratfink lizard bitch if you want to be President.

P.S. Also campaigning in the mid-west might have been a good idea.
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Part of the issue with Clinton is three-fold:

1. The Clinton presidency and everything that happened, but especially Monicagate, embittered Hillary and Bill; to the point that they began to see helping the average man be less important that power and wealth for it's own sake. Especially since Bill and Hillary burnt through their life savings dealing with various legal issues when Bill was in office.

2. During their Presidency but especially during Monicagate, the Clintons were given a gift in terms of a rogue's gallery of people who were so unlikable and trashy that the Clintons could easily route them. Between the hypocritical sexual puritans and political rivals who said the quiet part out loud (IE the White House was "property of the GOP and how dare Clinton end 12 years of uninterrupted Republican rule as President!" (the GOP in general), the white trash rape victim (Paula Jones), the fat mistress (Monica), and a special prosecutor who hated Clinton and basically wanted ANYTHING to hang on him to justify his investigations (Kenneth Starr); Clinton had people he could easily beat via charisma, selective gaslighting, and pure stamina of refusing to give up and basically tanking them until they slipped and fucked up in some way due to their Clinton Derangement Syndrome.

3. Hillary is a very bitter, self-hating woman who explicitly despises how she wasted her life in service of advancing her husband's political career. Even her own political career exists solely due to her husband and her husband's cronies effectively bribing her with a New York senate seat (a crown jewel senate seat and not a rinky dinky one from Arkansas) and promises of one day becoming President herself. And given that her husband explicitly gaslit her over his affair with Monica, causing her to make all sorts of outrageous statements (her infamous "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" spiel) that turned out to be fake when irrefutable proof of the affair was made public in the form of the infamous cum stained dress of Monica's; she been stuck in a loveless marriage with a serial adulterer and that even if she did leave them, as "American Crime Story: Impeachment" famously opined, she'd be vilified for hypocrisy due to how gung ho she was about forgiving previous adultery and being a smug cunt who joined in on the gaslighting of Monica and other women Bill fucked.
 
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