The Holocaust Thread - The Great Debate Between Affirmers, Revisionists and Deniers

[Dyn]

Honestly - and though I fully expect more insults in reply to this - I am still fine with you. You have not folowed this thread and my interactions with the other guys, so you just see the smugness and not the context in which it arose. Smugness without justification is calling out for a slap, and you did not see the justification.

Also, the technical quality of my previous videos has been fifth grade tier, I do not deny that. The one I am working on now (to be released any day) is much more technically serious, both in terms of graphics and a real mic.

Fuck the technical quality if you want to be a youtuber the first issue you need to address is being less likeable than actual unironic Nazis because that's a huge problem I never imagined anybody would ever have.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I went to Buchenwald once. Before going I kind of questioned its necessity, why do the Americans love going to the camps, why do I need to go when I already have no doubts, etc. but the experience was helpful; because one can have no doubts after looking at the photos taken then, the stuff that’s still standing at the site and the smaller archaeological objects that point to tens of thousands of people being held there at one time. The evidence is fairly overwhelming and consistent.

If the united states had preserved their camps where they interned japanese people during the second world war, it would have resulted in similar overwhelming and consistent evidence that at one point, tens of thousands of people were being held there.

I'm just saying it requires more evidence than just that, and when going to a site we might fill in a lot of blanks that there wasn't necessarily evidence for. Another camp without gas chambers, btw.

Another resource, encylopedia brittanica still claims that people's skin at buchenwald were made into lampshades for example. Is our valiant rotund historian correcting this resource also used by tens of thousands of people daily corrected? Did the signs at the camp make the same claim? I never went to buchenwald. I would be interested in hearing more about your experience.

@TheSockiestSock
Do you see how they have no such interest in correcting these mistakes on big central resources?

 

[History Speaks]

Fuck the technical quality if you want to be a youtuber the first issue you need to address is being less likeable than actual unironic Nazis because that's a huge problem I never imagined anybody would ever have.

lol there are different personas on history YT, and the bulk of them are weirdos, hardly likeable, because what normal person would do such a thing? That said, you are exaggerating my unlikeabilty bc you feel the need to stand by your previous very emotional condemnation.

And the technical quality is definitely my biggest issue. You were right the first time. What sucks is that making a video with good technical quality takes time and help, but I have decided to make that commitment.

 

[Lemmingwise]

lol I am not aiming for likeable

It's good that you're coming at this from a realistic angle.


Edit: oh I guess you couldn't be realistic for more than a minute before editing that, lol.

 

[Dyn]

And you are overstating my unlikeabilty

I'm not. It's that bad.

 

[History Speaks]

Stan is correct that the basic problem for deniers is that millions of Jews disappeared in Nazi custody - in the camp system - during the war, and there is no record of them leaving the camp system. The mainstream hypothesis - supported by tons of evidence - is that they were killed.

The denier alternative hypothesis - that the Jews were transited out of the camp system into some permanent settlement - has no evidence, which is absurd (as I have said, a settlement of millions of people in the 1940s - really a nation - would leave some physical or testimonial or economic evidence of its existence).

I'm not. It's that bad.

My father once told me that you are a sucker for being nice to someone who is being nasty to you, and I have generally followed his advice. But for some reason I cannot help being friendly to you, which is quite odd indeed given how intensely you have vilified me. I guess I have always been a fan of smilie emojis.

 

[Lemmingwise]

You can also edit Wikipedia articles if this lampshade business is stuck in your craw. Word to the wise, though; WP Holocaust articles are usually locked to anonymous editing due to vandalism from /pol/ and Holocaust revisionists who want to fuck around w it.

This is false. Despite the new resident holocaust affirmers (including our esteemed academic historian) agreeing that skin lampshades didn't happen, there is no chance of correcting the article. If you doubt me, look at the talk for the page or the history. Facts and verifiability don't matter to wikipedia on certain subjects. If you still doubt me, try it yourself. It's a waste of time. If you prove me wrong and manage to keep it changed for a month, you get to choose my profile picture and subtext for a month.

My father once told me that you are a sucker for being nice to someone who is being nasty to you, and I have generally followed his advice. But for some reason I cannot help being friendly to you, which is quite odd indeed given how intensely you have vilified me. I guess I have always been a fan of smilie emojis.

It's probably because you're a weak cuck.

 

[Dyn]

My father once told me that you are a sucker for being nice to someone who is being nasty to you, and I have generally followed his advice. But for some reason I cannot help it in your case, which is quite odd indeed given how intensely you have vilified me. I guess I have always been a fan of smilie emojis.

My father told me neo-nazis would tie a rope around my neck and drag me behind their pickups because they don't like the colour of my skin but at least I know they won't link me to any of your videos.

 

[History Speaks]

It's probably because you're a weak cuck.

Are you capable of anything other than ejaculating dead memes ("cuck")? Maybe I like the smilie guy because he at least phrases his insults of me in an original way.

My father told me neo-nazis would tie a rope around my neck and drag me behind their pickups because they don't like the colour of my skin but at least I know they won't link me to any of your videos.

Why are you so worried about getting a mere link? Are you worried you will be tempted when you see it?

 

[Bonesjones]

Stan is correct that the basic problem for deniers is that millions of Jews disappeared in Nazi custody - in the camp system - during the war, and there is no record of them leaving the camp system. The mainstream hypothesis - supported by tons of evidence - is that they were killed.

The denier alternative hypothesis - that the Jews were transited out of the camp system into some permanent settlement - has no evidence, which is absurd (as I have said, a settlement of millions of people in the 1940s - really a nation - would leave some physical or testimonial or economic evidence of its existence).


My father once told me that you are a sucker for being nice to someone who is being nasty to you, and I have generally followed his advice. But for some reason I cannot help being friendly to you, which is quite odd indeed given how intensely you have vilified me. I guess I have always been a fan of smilie emojis.

You've admitted that there isn't much evidence for anything in the camp systrm, so that's proof for your assertions and a defense against mine? That's fair and logical.

Again, you slip with your words. No one said anything about a permanent settlement. As Rapechu found lots were put into temporary camps building berms and doing other work. Many of these people escaped or were freed by partisans. The rest could easily be absorbed by the Soviets with zero external notice since the war front was collapsing. So again, the evidence that would exonerate the Nazis would belong to a hostile force.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Are you capable of anything other than ejaculating dead memes ("cuck")? Maybe I like the smilie guy because he at least phrases his insults of me in an original way.

How dead is the meme of being a cuck, really? I can be very precise.

Not as dead as your youtube career, but deader than the 6 million.

 

[Bonesjones]

This is false. Despite the new resident holocaust affirmers (including our esteemed academic historian) agreeing that skin lampshades didn't happen, there is no chance of correcting the article. If you doubt me, look at the talk for the page or the history. Facts and verifiability don't matter to wikipedia on certain subjects. If you still doubt me, try it yourself. It's a waste of time. If you prove me wrong and manage to keep it changed for a month, you get to choose my profile picture and subtext for a month.

People forget the JIDF, paid college students who just go around keeping things like the holocaust from being looked at too closely, has existed for a long time.

 

[History Speaks]

You've admitted that there isn't much evidence for anything in the camp systrm . . .

Again, you slip with your words. No one said anything about a permanent settlement. As Rapechu found lots were put into temporary camps building berms and doing other work. Many of these people escaped or were freed by partisans. The rest could easily be absorbed by the Soviets with zero external notice since the war front was collapsing. So again, the evidence that would exonerate the Nazis would belong to a hostile force.

lol I never said there is not much evidence for killings inside the camps.

There is zero evidence for any of your speculations that they escaped or were freed by partisans by the millions, and plenty of reason not to believe it.

 

[Bonesjones]

lol I never said there is not much evidence for killings inside the camps.

There is zero evidence for any of your speculations that they escaped or were freed by partisans by the millions, and plenty of reason not to believe it.

Then why haven't you posted it? All you've done is speculate that you could increase the numbers by burning more corpses at once, this being a challenge to an assertion that the numbers don't add up. You've failed to do basic due diligence. Again, you have to account for the resources required to gas and cremate over a million people at Auschwitz alone. This is above and beyond the resources needed to keep the camp functioning.

You have to prove they were there and stayed there. Then you have to prove they died there. This isn't millions of people, just the ones located at those particular camps.

As we know the vast majority of the transit logs were destroyed, so we have no idea what they contain and provide evidence of otherwise.

You just adamantly refuse to support the narrative of the Holocaust, which makes you a revisionist at best. The claims of what happened to the jews is secondary to the industrialized gassing and cremation of the jews, which is what the holocaust is. Saying they were starved to death or shot and buried on the eastern front is revision.

You dont even know what you are trying to argue most of the time, probably because you are a wet brained mutt.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

hey History Eats, if you want to be an internet star, go call out the Islamic world. Go debate your poopskin relatives on their opinions about Jews and the Shoah. And if you're half-Brit, was your mother the poopskin or your father?

We already have fat laptop class youtubers proselytizing right-think, and if we wanted them we'd watch shudder Kavernacle. And thats a great point: what do you offer that ten other youtubers don't already, and better. Your corpulence is the perfect illustration for the youtube market glut with philosophasters. Anyway save your reproof for the brown savages that need it.

 

[History Speaks]

hey History Eats, if you want to be an internet star, go call out the Islamic world. Go debate your poopskin relatives on their opinions about Jews and the Shoah. And if you're half-Brit, was your mother the poopskin or your father?

We already have fat laptop class youtubers proselytizing right-think, and if we wanted them we'd watch shudder Kavernacle. And thats a great point: what do you offer that ten other youtubers don't already, and better. Your corpulence is the perfect illustration for the youtube market glut with philosophasters. Anyway save your reproof for the brown savages that need it.

At this point I am convinced you are fat too bro.

Plenty of non fat people ridicule fat people, but this level of emotional intensity is clearly personal.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

At this point I am convinced you are fat too bro.

I suppose thats easier to believe than cultivating self control, or governing your impulses at the dining table. But most importantly, it gives you the out to not change your ways.

 

[History Speaks]

I suppose thats easier to believe than cultivating self control, or governing your impulses at the dining table. But most importantly, it gives you the out to not change your ways.

I have been changing, and I wish you would too.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I have been changing, and I wish you would too.

This isn't even his final form!

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

I have been changing, and I wish you would too.

Yes, earn your humanity back. Its waiting for you at a decent BMI.

Go correct the Muslims, poopskin. We already know about the Holocaust. We fought a whole war over it and everything. What was Egypt doing. Im sure the mid east was fine, it's not like al aqsa welcomed nazis and praised the final solution or anything.

This isn't even his final form!

Jeez, you mean he gets bigger?