Mike Peinovich / Mike Enoch & The Right Stuff (therightstuff.biz) - Lazy Podcasting Clique, Pepe the Frog Fetishists, Doxed by /pol/, Fed Honeypot for Gullible Neo-Nazi Conspiracy Theorists.

I oppose Peinovich's professed ideology. But his professed ideology is actually irrelevant, because he does not genuinely believe in it.

A couple examples.

First, Peinovich was not only married to Jewish woman Ames Friedman (who attended trans events and volunteered at b'nai brith). He invited her to be a collaborator on his financially lucrative neo nazi media network.

He was even brazen enough to bring her on "The Daily Shoah" for a skit in which she concealed her ethnicity and engaged in anti Jewish and neo nazi rhetoric. This is equivalent to a white woman bringing her black husband to a Klan rally, in which he condemned race mixing while hiding under a white sheet, i.e. something out of a Chapelle skit.

There is no plausible explanation for Ames Friedman's collaboration with TDS, apart from the fact that Peinovich is manipulating and laughing at his audience. https://media.christogenea.org/audios/wmfinck/daily-shoah-ames-friedman-trs-christmas

Second, he claims to want to debate the Holocaust, and also claims that he can easily demonstrate it to be a "hoax." Yet he backed out of his planned debate with me (specialist in the history of the Third Reich who knows German), despite our prior agreement to debate. Initially he said that was because of a "Jewish moderator," but after I agreed to drop the moderator (which was probably a mistake on my part, since Peinovich, Striker, Avi Bitterman, and I had already agreed on this moderator), and do a debate with no moderator, he ghosted me.

Despite his thoroughly cruel and often preposterous political statements (according to which, e.g., the porn industry is a big deal not because people like to orgasm, but because of a Jewish plot to undermine white people), Peinovich is a gifted shock jock and seems like a nice guy at an interpersonal basis. But what he is doing is disingenuous and ruins lives. Getting alienated - rightfully alienated - young men to publicly engage in Nazi LARPing is going to hurt these young men and their families (among others), although it has helped Peinovich buy a big house.
Whoa dude your analysis is mind blowing. Mike’s ex-wife’s was jewish?!?! And she made a 3 minute appearance on TDS 853 episodes ago?!?!

Damn, as a TRS fan this is an earth shattering revelation. I’m going to seriously reconsider my participation in White Nationalism now, thank you so much for your service.

lol jk neck yourself you dumb nigger faggot. You and your kike buddy dragged your feet on that debate for years until you tried to gotcha Mike and Striker with an obscure German language source which you refused to provide a translation for. Your attempt at debating the holohaux is as disingenuous as you coming here trying to blow people’s minds with 7 year old drama.
 
Whoa dude your analysis is mind blowing. Mike’s ex-wife’s was jewish?!?! And she made a 3 minute appearance on TDS 853 episodes ago?!?!

Damn, as a TRS fan this is an earth shattering revelation. I’m going to seriously reconsider my participation in White Nationalism now, thank you so much for your service.

lol jk neck yourself you dumb nigger faggot. You and your kike buddy dragged your feet on that debate for years until you tried to gotcha Mike and Striker with an obscure German language source which you refused to provide a translation for. Your attempt at debating the holohaux is as disingenuous as you coming here trying to blow people’s minds with 7 year old drama.
Of course you have zero explanation as to why, if he is a genuine in his professed views, he brought his Jewish wife onto TRS to do nazi memes while concealing her ethnicity.

Again how is that different than my hypothetical of a “trad” white nationalist woman bringing her black husband to a klan rally, and hiding him under a white sheet? In both cases it shows the person in question does not take the views they are publicly expressing seriously, and indeed has a kind of bemused contempt for their supposed ideological fellow travelers.

Re Holocaust debate, While it is absurd that I have to translate all the German sources I have provided (if you agree to participate in a public Holocaust debate, you should be able to read German or at least have somebody on your side translate it for you, since the relevant evidence is not in English lmao), I am even willing to do that at this point. I have given in on basically all their demands, unreasonable as they are, simply for the sake of having the debate. Yet they keep dodging.

Btw not all deniers are this afraid of having their views publicly challenged. I will be debating Jim Rizoli this Sunday, for example.

EDIT - the reason we took 1.5 years is that we agreed to provide original sources, and this was impossible during covid, since archives were closed and many of the originals are not digitized. Although it was inevitable, the delay was a bit ridiculous and I can see why your side would make fun of it. But it is not an excuse to dodge the debate today, since I am ready to do it whenever they want and under the circumstances we agreed, plus even their more recent demands.
 
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Of course you have zero explanation as to why, if he is a genuine in his professed views, he brought his Jewish wife onto TRS to do nazi memes while concealing her ethnicity.

Again how is that different than my hypothetical of a “trad” white nationalist woman bringing her black husband to a klan rally, and hiding him under a white sheet? In both cases it shows the person in question does not take the views they are publicly expressing seriously, and indeed has a kind of bemused contempt for their supposed ideological fellow travelers.

Re Holocaust debate, While it is absurd that I have to translate all the German sources I have provided (if you agree to participate in a public Holocaust debate, you should be able to read German or at least have somebody on your side translate it for you, since the relevant evidence is not in English lmao), I am even willing to do that at this point. I have given in on basically all their demands, unreasonable as they are, simply for the sake of having the debate. Yet they keep dodging.

Btw not all deniers are this afraid of having their views publicly challenged. I will be debating Jim Rizoli this Sunday, for example.

EDIT - the reason we took 1.5 years is that we agreed to provide original sources, and this was impossible during covid, since archives were closed and many of the originals are not digitized. Although it was inevitable, the delay was a bit ridiculous and I can see why your side would make fun of it. But it is not an excuse to dodge the debate today, since I am ready to do it whenever they want and under the circumstances we agreed, plus even their more recent demands.

Dude. Let's just ignore this rubbish you write about Mike for now and tell me instead, is your name Matthew Cockerill?
 
the reason we took 1.5 years is that we agreed to provide original sources, and this was impossible during covid, since archives were closed and many of the originals are not digitized.
If documents that are unavailable to the general public are necessary to prove the Holocaust, why does anyone currently believe it? The rational position would be agnosticism.
 
Dude. Let's just ignore this rubbish you write about Mike for now and tell me instead, is your name Matthew Cockerill?

Yep.

Honestly I do not hate Mike and do not enjoy writing nasty stuff about him.> Despite his ugly race hatred (which at least I view as more of a performance than anything), I get the feeling that he is a nice person, at least interpersonally. But he cannot expect to make racist comments about me on his show and be dealt with via kid gloves.

I do not see how my analysis of his collaboration with the Jewish wife on TRS is not compelling. Again, I would like to hear arguments as to why that is different than my KKK hypothetical, where the "trad white nationalist" wife hides her black husband under a sheet.

I stand by what I wrote above. But what would make me happiest is not to do a drama with Mike, but to finally do our long planned debate. I will even translate the documents for him.

If documents that are unavailable to the general public are necessary to prove the Holocaust, why does anyone currently believe it? The rational position would be agnosticism.
Almost all the documents I got are readily available in secondary sources, but we agreed to provide original documents. (If we were just reading these documents out of books, Mike would say they were fakes anyway.)
 
What racist comments? What race are you?
No idea. People on this forum have mocked me for being white and for being mixed race, and I have experienced both "white racism" for being Middle Eastern (in middle school high school) and (more recently) anti-white racism, in the course of my life. So I am actually quite confused about what my race is at this point.

https://therightstuff.biz/2022/04/13/tds880/ is the episode where Mike attacks me, but I do not have a time stamp or anything.

The comments Mike made are hardly the end of the world, but they are relevant insofar as they assuages any guilt I might have had about making fun of the fact that Mike hid his Jewish wife from his audience, and brought her in as a collaborator on a neo nazi show. For the third time, I would like to hear how this is different than my hypothetical of the KKK wife hiding her black husband under a white sheet.

Clearly to proudly introduce your Jewish wife to a Jew-hating audience, and having her do a nazi bit while concealing her ethnicity, shows a kind of contempt for your audience and a lack of seriousness about your professed views.
 
Why won't you just give a straight answer? I'm white, I'm black, I'm asian, etc. It's not hard.
It would generally be a simple question. But I have to say I am quite bored of being asked this by everyone constantly - which has happened since I began dealing with neonazis in my work debunking Holocaust denial.

Since you asked three times though, I will tell you - I am half English, half Egyptian.
 
It would generally be a simple question. But I have to say I am quite bored of being asked this by everyone constantly - which has happened since I began dealing with neonazis in my work debunking Holocaust denial.

Since you asked three times though, I will tell you - I am half English, half Egyptian.
Pathetic. The Jews have a holiday where they celebrate the mass murder of your ancestors and you go to bat for them.
 
Are you talking about the exodus? Why should I be offended that they celebrate something that never happened lol.

Also, Christianity and Islam consider the Exodus )including the plagues, killing of the first born, etc) to have been God-ordained. Should I hate these religions too?

1/Is your dad or mum a Coptic Christian? Why is your Cockerill?

2/As for you kike wife posting. This has been dealt with numerous times. Mike wasn't always a nazi, he was in fact a lefty, a libertarian then an edgy libertarian. Around the time he was still married to Amie of bnai brth talking for hours on end about political history and having to back up and rationalise it led him down the rabbit h hole of how politics actually works. Which is to say that fundamentally libertarianism is correct in many ways but in the end people act politically according to ethnic and racial interests also. This revelation sparked the end of his marriage but by then of course, he had already been being edgy for some time. On the other hand his reading and analysis got better and better. So that's his story. Alot of us have similar stories to tell.

3/Did you actually think these kike wife points would be impressive here?

4/Were you posting this out of childish spite because you were insulted?

5/Are you also g10spana?

6/And these documents. Are they known to revisionists? What is all this suddenly pulling documents out the hat? Do you know how many times this has been done without ever addressing the main outstanding problems?

7/Have they been analysed?

8/What is your work in debunking revisionism ? Do you intend to wait until Mattogno or Rudolf are dead or retired before you produce a major work in the hope that revisionists can't respond to you?

9/Lastly I would have thought that someone serious about taking us on would do better than Van Pelt, the bloggers, Pressac, piper, lipstadt, evens, longerich and actually talk directly to senior revisionists such as Germar Rudolf. Have you? Do you intend to?
 
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It would generally be a simple question. But I have to say I am quite bored of being asked this by everyone constantly - which has happened since I began dealing with neonazis in my work debunking Holocaust denial.

Since you asked three times though, I will tell you - I am half English, half Egyptian.
I'll spell it out for you in terms that are both objective and unambiguous. Racially you are a nigger, spiritually you are jewish, and your gender is faggot. Hopefully this clears up any confusion for you, feel free to write these terms down so that you don't forget them in the future.

I know you fancy yourself as some sort of well-informed academic, but you're just one in a long line of people who have thought they were scoring an epic own on Mike by telling people his ex-wife was jewish, even though it's something that's been known for 5+ years. No one cares, Mike actually did a whole episode of TDS on the issue after his divorce was finalized.

I don't care about your take on the holohaux because it's so obviously fake. The real hot button issue these days are seed oils - are they jewish poison, or a healthy tasty treat? I won't hold you to the standards of honest debate, so you're free to reference any obscure foreign language sources you want to make your point.
 
you're just one in a long line of people who have thought they were scoring an epic own on Mike by telling people his ex-wife was jewish, even though it's something that's been known for 5+ years.
Honestly, I have little interest in trying to get an "epic own" (that is dead meme language from a dead brain) on Mike at a personal level. I do not hate him or wish harm on him. I am merely frustrated with him for dodging our debate, and not inclined to feel bad about criticizing him as a grifter after what he said about me on his show.

The specific criticism of grifting does not arise from the mere fact that Mike had a Jewish wife. It is that he and she concealed her ethnicity while introducing her to his fans on his show, and inviting her to make jokes about "merchants" and "ovens", etc.

To use my preferred metaphor, that is equivalent to a Klansman having a black wife and hiding her under white sheets at the rallies while she condemns blacks - obviously deceitful, and an expression of contempt for his fans.

Is your dad or mum a Coptic Christian? Why is your Cockerill?
It is a fascinating thing, but people of maternal x descent can have y surname if their father is of y descent.
 
Honestly, I have little interest in trying to get an "epic own" (that is dead meme language from a dead brain) on Mike at a personal level. I do not hate him or wish harm on him. I am merely frustrated with him for dodging our debate, and not inclined to feel bad about criticizing him as a grifter after what he said about me on his show.

The specific criticism of grifting does not arise from the mere fact that Mike had a Jewish wife. It is that he and she concealed her ethnicity while introducing her to his fans on his show, and inviting her to make jokes about "merchants" and "ovens", etc.

To use my preferred metaphor, that is equivalent to a Klansman having a black wife and hiding her under white sheets at the rallies while she condemns blacks - obviously deceitful, and an expression of contempt for his fans.


It is a fascinating thing, but people of maternal x descent can have y surname if their father is of y descent.

Dude. Don't get butthurt. I asked you a straight question. Is your mum or dad a Coptic Christian? By the looks of it your mother is Egyptian. Correct?

As for this debate thing. Do you realise that no one takes your debate rhetoric seriously? Do you agree to a new host and moderator? It really doesn't matter who does all this correct?
 
Are you talking about the exodus? Why should I be offended that they celebrate something that never happened lol.

Also, Christianity and Islam consider the Exodus )including the plagues, killing of the first born, etc) to have been God-ordained. Should I hate these religions too?
The Jews celebrate passover as though it happened in real life. Why should you be offended that a group of people celebrates the murder of your ancestors? Are you serious? I'm not a fan of Christianity or Islam. However, Christians and Muslims don't try to genocide all other peoples. This is unique to Jews throughout history.
 
Dude. Don't get butthurt. I asked you a straight question. Is your mum or dad a Coptic Christian? By the looks of it your mother is Egyptian. Correct?
I was being sarcastic because it is obviously my mom, and you could figure it out for yourself. Like almost everybody I get my surname from my father, although I frequently go by my full name (Matthew Ghobrial Cockerill) in highly formal contexts (not kiwi farms lol).

It is rather douchey to do so, but it the identity with which I was raised.

Regarding your other questions, I will answer, but it will require an autistic level of detail, so if any normal people are reading this thread (a slender possibility, to be sure), they will want to skip this post -

2/3 Your preferred narrative - that he married her before his ideological change - does not work, because his ideological change was not the determinative factor in his alienation from his wife. In fact, she was collaborating with him on his politics, which was bringing in a lot of money for the family. As I said, she came on the show and did neo nazi jokes about "merchants" and "ovens." The JWQ only became a problem for Mike when he was doxxed and his fans were criticizing him as a grifter and fraud.

4 - I am definitely butthurt, and will not insult the readers of my comments by denying that. But I am butthurt Mike ditching the debate, not his insults. The insults, as I said, relieved any sense of guilt I may have otherwise had in publicly calling him a grifter.

5 - no, Mike was wrong about that, as were many people at CODOH.

6 - Most of these documents are old hat, but not all of them are. I could be mistaken but I believe I will, for example, be the first person to publish an original copy of a 1945 Goebbels diary entry referring to the murder of the Jews (this diary entry has appeared in translation in secondary sources, but not to my knowledge in the original form). This is not the famous 1942 diary entry you may have heard of.

7 - Most of them have been analyzed by other scholars and I could rely on stuff they had previously written. However I spent considerable time analyzing the ones I never had seen before going into the archives. One such document, an Eichmann diary entry, is likely unusable in its original form because of copyright reasons, although I can presumably translate it.

8 - I have no published works on denial. I expect most of my anti-denial work will be intellectually rigorous, yet colloquial in tone, and Youtube or substack based. I do not intend most of my published scholarship to be on this subject. However, I have a couple ideas for a paper. One is an analysis of the "death books" at Auschwitz, which deniers say refer to all dead Jewish prisoners, and mainstream sayss refer only to a minority of prisoners, i.e. able bodied Jews who were worked to death. My hypothesis is that, because the Jews in the death books were almost all (with a few exceptions, e.g. medical experiment guinea pigs) able bodied Jews worked to death, that almost all of them will be adults or teenagers, with almost no young children, or for that matter very old people.

While some statistics have been compiled on the death books and the ages of people therein, to my knowledge nobody has published statistics specifically about Jewish inmates (Auschwitz had registered inmates of various ethnicties, Jewish and gentile), so there is an opening here.

9 - I talked on Skype to Rudolf a few weeks ago. My take on him is that he is a smart guy who knows a lot about chemistry, but while his samples are generally collected rigorously, he makes mistakes because of his weak knowledge of statistics.

Rudolf also told me in our conversation that it is likely he mixed up a control sample that he personally fumigated with a sample from a building at Auschwitz. (His mistake - this is my analysis now, not me paraphrasing Rudolf - has given at least Mike and Strike a false impression regaridng some of his data.) Rudolf also agreed with my view that Leuchter's samples are not credible because Leuchter did not control for the depth of his samples (which is obviously relevant since the deeper the sample is in the wall, the less hydrogen cyanide it will have). Leuchter just hacked away like a kook lmao.

Rudolf was cordial to me throughout our conversation. I do not agree with some other anti deniers who have focused on Rudolfs indecent exposure charge. I do not think it is fair to infer from this, whatever may have happened, that he is a sexual pervert.

It is weird to us - I am quite uncomfortable with it myself - but Germans are quite chill with nudity and near nudity, for example on nude beaches and in saunas. I live in Germany so I am regrettably all too familiar with this by now. It is strange because in general Germs are cold fish, but somehow they are into nudity.
 
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