General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Biobreak]

I'm still waiting for a good male avatar design

Don't be a fucking coward, Yagoo. Give us the hoodie-wearing, cheeto-dust-covered-finger neckbeard chuuba we fucking deserve.

 

[Sithis]

Why is it always when we are about to lose something that we come to better appreciate its value?

 

[USS IOWA]

Why is it always when we are about to lose something that we come to better appreciate its value?

I still have some hope that she might change her mind. But I think that's way too late now.

 

[Spins Of Our Fathers]

Bae got a custom case by IBUYPOWER, preorders only available in Japan and Indonesia are you man enough to rrat with it

also there is a bunch of Takodachis in Meemaw stream you fucking traitors

Bae getting involved in matchfixing when

 

[Erika Furudo]

Time-stamped at 47:41

"Oh hi Pippa! *giggles* thank you for membering, welcome-welcome! I know who that is!"

I never saw Fauna as someone who may know about CWC or KF. She may have even saw Ralph hollerin' over Pippa.

The Hero, the Alchemist, the Gladiator, and the Scholar.

They're TTRPG class themed? Wtf is with the cyber video then lol

MMO?

 

[moon delightful]

I still have some hope that she might change her mind. But I think that's way too late now.

Has there ever been a case where a talent changes their mind before their graduation?

 

[Airless]

Has there ever been a case where a talent changes their mind before their graduation?

Neko Neneka technically but those were pretty different circumstances

 

[Ward]

Has there ever been a case where a talent changes their mind before their graduation?

If thats going to be the case then all the major attentionwhores are going to "graduate" for views and shit only to be back in two months with "im back teehee"

 

[White Stone]

Maybe Cover is smarter than we give them credit for, since they've presumably done this like 3 times at this point.

Three times?
Did you think Coco was underperforming?
Who was the third? Aloe? She was literally at her first month, way too early to decide if she would underperform.

 

[paule]

Don't know if posted before since I am not yet up to date after the release of the teaser:
Someone on leddit transcribed the text shown in the teaser that contains their backstory/settings

Spoiler: LORE

Logo Text: Progress based on luck and happenstance is not the answer.

In order of appearance:

Introduction of "The Hero"

Hero: "I'm awake"
When he opened the windows, a cool breeze blew into his room at the inn.
Stretching as he took in the chill of the night, he noticed the picture frame in the window.
Hero: "Hmmm. When did I put this portrait here?"
The hero was the only one in the picture. And yet he wasn't in the center, but in the right half.
It was not, by any stretch of the imagination, a piece of art.
Hero: "Actually, you know"
He looked away from the picture and turned a little to his right to speak. The very next moment, a sharp pang ran through his head.
Perhaps he was simply tired, but either way it wasn't exactly a good marker of his health.
He put the photo frame back where it was and took a look around his room.
You could say it was a little big for one person
Hero: "Oh, right. You were here too |||"[they used box characters to censor the name here]
The hero tried to place a name all too familiar to him. but he was interrupted before he could... or maybe he was silenced.

The Hero encounters "The Alchemist"

The hero walked through the forest, populated by many colossal trees, staying fully alert of his surroundings. But that wasn't enough to detect the slender arm that reached out from behind him and grabbed him by the shoulder.
Alchemist: "Heya"
Before the whispering even reached his ears, the hero twisted his body to shake the arm off.
He crouched, prone to attack, and his right arm grabbed the sword sheathed on his waist. Only then did he look up at his assailant.
His gaze met the alchemist's who was tottering toward him waving his arm.
Hero: "Man, not you again."
Having confirmed that he was only dealing with the alchemist and his eccentric ways the hero returned to a relaxed stance.
Alchemist: "Rude! You should be more appreciative of me! A friend in need is a friend indeed remember?"
Hero: "I have no idea what you're talking about."
Alchemist "You're heading to the ruins up ahead aren't you?"
Alchemist: "I'm willing to help. Alchemists have the wonderful ability to grant people wishes after all!"

The Hero, The Alchemist, and the Gladiator encounter "The Scholar"

The hero's sword and the rapier clashed, and the (resulting sound of metal on metal) [not 100%, but pretty sure] echoed around the Grand Library.
The alchemist and the gladiator stood a little way away.
The one fighting the hero was the custodian of the Grand Library a renowned scholar.
He was trying to avoid fighting in close quarters, and so when the hero charged in he backed away to keep his distance and stuck his rapier at his opponent.
Scholar: "How many times must I spell it out for you? How do you not understand that what you're doing is pure hypocrisy?"
Hero: "I'm not who I was back then."
The hero parried the rapier and used that chance to attack. All of his swings were filled with drive and determination, his technique as sharp as the glint in his eyes. But even that volley couldn't reach his opponent.
The scholar dealt with each of them with poise. He deflected overhand swings by striking at the heart of the sword with his rapier, and he avoided sweeping blows by hopping backward.
Following this fierce back and forth, the two of them paused for breath. They both knew that the fight wasn't headed toward a decisive conclusion. But they both were also prepared to use their ace in the hole if they saw an opportunity to. The tension in the air was so palpable that even the alchemist and gladiator felt it. That was precisely why the latter deemed it necessary to bellow a roar and stop the battle as soon as he heard the ringing of the clock tower's bell.

Flashback to when The Hero and The Alchemist first met "The Gladiator"

The box seats at the Arena offered the best view of the combat below. And standing at the entrance to that seating area were the hero and the alchemist, both with bemused expressions on their faces.
From where they stood, they couldn't see the fighting at all.
All they could see was a man seated in a towering chair made of bones, staring back at them.
Even fully clothed, you could tell that this man had a finely honed body. He was probably a muscleheaded workout freak.
Hero: "You sent this didn't you?"
The hero threw the envelope he was holding down to the floor.
Alchemist: "Such an honor, receiving a direct invitation from the famed Ringmaster of the Colosseum!"
The man's lips broke out into a wry smile.
Gladiator: "So I hear you're looking for strong companions to join your party."
Hero: "Well yeah, but."
Cutting the hero's words off, the Gladiator stood up and threw his chair at them.
Gladiator: "Then fight me. We can do it here, the Arena, or wherever the hell you want!"

The party is all together

Heavy chains came crashing down between the hero and scholar, cracking the floor.
The impact left the two battlers completely dumbfounded.
Gladiator: "I came along 'cause I thought I'd get to see a good old fashioned brawl. What is this pansy crap?"
Alchemist: "I certainly enjoyed it, though."
The two of them walked over and stood by the hero.
Even without it being spelled out, the scholar could see that it was a display of solidarity.
Scholar: "Very well. I recognize your skills and your determination. but know that you are nothing by yourself."
With those words the scholar turned around and gracefully walked toward the exit.
Hero: "Excuse me?"
Gladiator: "Forget that. Let's grab some grub"
The gladiator extended his arms, grabbed the other two by their shoulders, and dragged them toward himself.
Incapable of defying the gladiator, the pair exited the Grand Library after the scholar.

Not as interesting, but the pink text appears to be file names or categories that scroll across the video. Here are the ones I was able to read, there were at least 4 others that were mostly offscreen or obscured by other parts. The last two were cut off and that's all that I could read.

The Meaning of Adventure
Data size
"Lore"
Utopia
People lacking ID
Digital Ocean
Free of the Corporeal
Perpetual Motion
World Server
Sword of the Brave
Elysium
....ance Convertion
....ecord

 

[I am not here]

@paule unfortunately, you were beat to it. I'm guessing since there is so muc text, farms is limiting the ability to quote so a link and mention's the best we're gonna get

now for a smug cat

EDIT: Holy Matsuri.. the HoloRust is happening

 

[vestars20]

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Oh yeah, who could resist this beauty.

Ironic that this photo shows how little KSON cares about coomerbating,

Yes.
I just fucking hate whores

Susan?

Honestly I don’t see why you guys are sperging out so much about Ksons fat udders. Its almost as if Vshojo as a whole is living rent free in those heads of yours with how much you guys seem to obsess over them, so much so that even Dear Leader had to post here. Whilst not a fan of Vshojo myself I could give less of a shit about any of this.

Anyways heres like 2 clips of Tenkai Tsukasa, a mahjong focused vtuber with Fukumoto (Mangaka of Kaiji, Akagi, Buraiden Gai, Saikyo Densetsu Kurosawa, etc) like design. Used to be a niji back when Nijisanji Network was a thing but stopped being one when that program was terminated.

Did you forget about Nijisanji koshien or....

Did Yuni actually say the gamer word in this clip? You decide!
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A true shitposter can not help themselves even if it destroys their oshi.

So "Hero", "Alchemist", "Gladiator", and "Scholar"
Someone can make a DnD campaign out of this

Not Mori

 

[Erika Furudo]

If thats going to be the case then all the major attentionwhores are going to "graduate" for views and shit only to be back in two months with "im back teehee"

Best case is they graduate her and wait a few months (6 minimum) before spinning her coming back as a return from hiatus. She can blame her back injury saying she thought it would be too much to stream so she oped to leave. The only issue is people may spin it as "black company fires injured women recovering from broken spine for underperforming". But she has plausible reasons to leave and is on good terms, so you could just counter the rrat by her comments about her trying and deciding to leave just being about how she didn't want to go down the hiatus route becase she wouldn't know how long or if she could recover.

As long as she doesn't go full Kson she cold probably work things out imo. It's just sad she struggled with views and low streaming but then ended up leaving like this. If she acted like this sooner she would probably have had a much bigger fanbase, it's not like she couldn't be entertaining.

 

[Town Drunk]

It makes a lot of sense if you think about it:
1) Have an underperforming talent
2) You can either attempt to rehabilitate her or
3) You can offer her an unreasonable contract that compels her to resign, builds sympathy for the brand, and provides a clean PR segue into the next generation of talents you believe may underperform
4) If she accepts rehabilitation, then fine. You get stricter terms for her rehabilitation for nothing.
5) If she doesn't accept rehabilitation, then you get to turn an underperforming talent into hype for four underperforming talents except each of those four could potentially blow-up and create an entirely new revenue stream for you to milk.

Maybe Cover is smarter than we give them credit for, since they've presumably done this like 3 times at this point.

They spent a fortune on model and rigging for Aloe, just to get two weeks out of their investment.
They begged Coco to stay.
They sacked a massive pay pig because she broke contract.
They wanted Sana (who was underperforming) to stay.
They kept Aki around when she was a 2 viewer.
They keep Ayame around.

I've got plenty of bones to pick with Cover, but honestly I don't think dollar signs is their guiding factor, nor is there some 4d chess in the vtuber market. If there is some Zanatos gambit then Yagoo is a fucking genius, as Japanese companies tend to be stiif, rigid, and immune to risky ideas.

 

[kukkia]

Are people actually taking the idea that Cover fired Sana to promote Holostars seriously?

 

[Sithis]

I still have some hope that she might change her mind. But I think that's way too late now.

That's part of what makes me actually feel bad about this one rather than just be indifferent tbh. It feels like something that's just out of her control. I've known several people whose lives have really been fucked up by back injuries. Idk it may just be a work balance thing but even so I think it is shitty that it happened to her. In any case I hope there's some way to keep tabs on her work as she is still a pretty talented artist and as mentioned earlier it'd be nice to check in later on and hear she recovered well.

 

[Nene's Husband]

They spent a fortune on model and rigging for Aloe, just to get two weeks out of their investment.
They begged Coco to stay.
They sacked a massive pay pig because she broke contract.
They wanted Sana (who was underperforming) to stay.
They kept Aki around when she was a 2 viewer.
They keep Ayame around.

I've got plenty of bones to pick with Cover, but honestly I don't think dollar signs is their guiding factor, nor is there some 4d chess in the vtuber market. If there is some Zanatos gambit then Yagoo is a fucking genius, as Japanese companies tend to be stiif, rigid, and immune to risky ideas.

I hope the day Hololive stops being numbah one overseas that the next indie or agency learns how it feels to be everyone's favourite punching bag and rrat breeding ground, and yagoo will look on from his mansion and sigh.

 

[Sven]

I never saw Fauna as someone who may know about CWC or KF. She may have even saw Ralph hollerin' over Pippa.

This is still a weird one to me, of all of HoloEN Fauna would have been near the bottom of the list of people I could imagine knowing who Pippa is {Irys is the bottom of that list, no question) and it starts making me wonder on the how she knows. It could be as deep as Fauna is secretly a chan lurker that hides her power level well or it could be as simple as she saw the very recent Fauna themed Holocure stream and just remembered Pippa's name, add in Mumei's roomate following her on twitter and this is one rat that ain't getting caught without her just revealing it herself for some reason.

 

[danny jr]

Are people actually taking the idea that Cover fired Sana to promote Holostars seriously?

With the amount of people that visit this thread and the amount of people that lurk, someone posting here could probably get some random rrat to be taken seriously.

 

[Ward]

Are people actually taking the idea that Cover fired Sana to promote Holostars seriously?

No
Just that revealing holostarsEN when one of your beloved chuubas graduating is a shit scummy decision and reeks of japanese corporate bullshit. Even worse when half of this thread have seen that coming.