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VTuber Bob Dole said:
Considering her first non-council collab (if I remember correctly) was with Gura and she basically admitted to being a chumbud, it doesn't surprise me that she is knowledgeable in the gremlin and meme ways, even if she hides it well. That's when she started growing on me and I've enjoyed her since.
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Seeing a bit of how she was at times on her old LemonLeaf persona, she's definitely suppressing some energy for Fauna but hasn't changed too much. I didn't think much of her at first and was sadly more interested in Sana, but due to breaks, Fauna took that interest and with space baby's impending launch, welp. I'm used to pain anyway, I'm a cuckbeat.
 
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She would have stopped sana from graduating.
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I can sort of see why people are mad about this. Shouldn't be this mad but yeah there is a kernal of reasoning.

Aloe was booted, Cover then gave everyone a few weeks to process it before announcing Myth.
Coco decided to Graduate in June, everyone had a month to process it, then Cover announced IRyS a week or so after Coco left. That's about five weeks.
Sana announced she was leaving, then a few days into her farewell Cover drops StarsEN before the processing is completed, effectively casting a shadow over her.

StarsEN was in the works for half a year now, it was just a matter of time before they dropped; but to announce them in this way just comes across as callous. Sana is no Coco, but she was a member and the second one to leave amicably rather than shit canned. She should have been afforded as much respect as Mano received in her far shorter career. To give her a moment in the spotlight instead of being overshadowed by the new group.
 
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Sevatonius said:
I can sort of see why people are mad about this. Shouldn't be this mad but yeah there is a kernal of reasoning.

Aloe was booted, Cover then gave everyone a few weeks to process it before announcing Myth.
Coco decided to Graduate in June, everyone had a month to process it, then Cover announced IRyS a week or so after Coco left. That's about five weeks.
Sana announced she was leaving, then a few days into her farewell Cover drops StarsEN before the processing is completed, effectively casting a shadow over her.

StarsEN was in the works for half a year now, it was just a matter of time before they dropped; but to announce them in this way just comes across as callous. Sana is no Coco, but she was a member and should have been afforded as much respect as Mano received in her far shorter career. To give her a moment in the spotlight instead of being overshadowed by the new group.
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next time they will announce a new group right before someone make graduation announcement.
 
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Anchors-Away said:
Be fair, those auditions had been up for over a year at this point. Fact they could only find four guys is saying a lot. Either they had extremely high requirements or the standard ratio of people applying was frankly that low.
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I assume one of the requirements was: "did not apply to get into the pants of another hololive member". Which would eliminate 99.9% of all applicants.
 
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Sevatonius said:
I can sort of see why people are mad about this. Shouldn't be this mad but yeah there is a kernal of reasoning.

Aloe was booted, Cover then gave everyone a few weeks to process it before announcing Myth.
Coco decided to Graduate in June, everyone had a month to process it, then Cover announced IRyS a week or so after Coco left. That's about five weeks.
Sana announced she was leaving, then a few days into her farewell Cover drops StarsEN before the processing is completed, effectively casting a shadow over her.

StarsEN was in the works for half a year now, it was just a matter of time before they dropped; but to announce them in this way just comes across as callous. Sana is no Coco, but she was a member and the second one to leave amicably rather than shit canned. She should have been afforded as much respect as Mano received in her far shorter career. To give her a moment in the spotlight instead of being overshadowed by the new group.
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If I were to hazard a guess on why they didn't wait it's because Cover doesn't want to try and delay debuts for a 2nd or 3rdish time. HoloX's debut was basically delayed for almost a year (they got their new years outfit and 3D so fast because they've been sitting on the complete models for fair amount of time already) and ID3 was 1 whole year after ID2. They likely want to get back on track for their debut schedule since it's basically been fucked since 2020 due to COVID and other complications.
 
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Sevatonius said:
I can sort of see why people are mad about this. Shouldn't be this mad but yeah there is a kernal of reasoning.

Aloe was booted, Cover then gave everyone a few weeks to process it before announcing Myth.
Coco decided to Graduate in June, everyone had a month to process it, then Cover announced IRyS a week or so after Coco left. That's about five weeks.
Sana announced she was leaving, then a few days into her farewell Cover drops StarsEN before the processing is completed, effectively casting a shadow over her.

StarsEN was in the works for half a year now, it was just a matter of time before they dropped; but to announce them in this way just comes across as callous. Sana is no Coco, but she was a member and the second one to leave amicably rather than shit canned. She should have been afforded as much respect as Mano received in her far shorter career. To give her a moment in the spotlight instead of being overshadowed by the new group.
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ID3 and UPROAR also came at the heart of the Rushia scandal, and it's well-documented how cobbled together those announcements at the convention looked.

Anchors-Away said:
Be fair, those auditions had been up for over a year at this point. Fact they could only find four guys is saying a lot. Either they had extremely high requirements or the standard ratio of people applying was frankly that low.
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Hololive only get 5 new girls a year too and I don't think they're flagging for auditions. It's not really a QA thing and it's not a scraping the bottom of the barrel thing, it's just how they operate.

cuckbeat said:
I guess this guy is a strong candidate for HoloSars EN
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Would be interesting given that he's a huge Nijifag that's been friends with Millie and Enna for years now.

Fantastic male singer, though. An excellent and not all-too-difficult pick if Holo got him. His weakness is that he's new to streaming and is very self-conscious about his ability to talk.
 
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NuPerezzorcjunmunospolkos said:
Ngl its boring and exhausting to keep assuming Tempes' debut is in anyway maliciousc to Sana. Cover probably has these things strictly planned way ahead of time and only make room for actual emergencies. Sana deciding to graduate so close to the debut is just bad timing on her part.
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It's most likely unfortunate timing since let's face it outside Rushia everything good, bad, and sad that gets announced always just so happened to be in Summer around this very time. That's what happens when the normal audition to debut time is 6 months.

Over the past 2 years Gen 5, IRyS, and Council has debuted around summer between July and August (Gen 5 summer of 2020, IRyS and Council summer of 2021). Just going off this pattern HoloStarsEN isn't all that surprising around this time.

Edit: To add onto what I said in 2019 Hololive had Gen 3 debut in July of that year. So yeah it's a consistent debut time for the company.
 
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