I may be a layman when it comes to human history, but I'm an expert on human behavior and deception. This is why I focus on the human aspect and people's motivation.
You think I oppose the holocaust, but that depends on how you define it. Can you define what you see as the holocaust? Then I can tell you whether I oppose it or not.
Well nobody can really "oppose" the holocaust, it already happened, but I'll refine your position as "Lemmingwise thinks the Holocaust was exaggerated/distorted/not as bad as it's made out to be." Which fwiw I think is untrue; the events of the Holocaust were really bad and it's difficult to grasp the magnitude of suffering and injustice perpetrated within it. I think the regulated, mechanical nature of the murders is what captures people's imagination.
I'm confused by your motivation in minimizing the impact of the holocaust. You say it's because you're an expert on human behavior and deception, but while it was happening and in the wake of 1945, the impact of the holocaust was withheld and minimized. Who would benefit in the wake of the war from exaggerating the Holocaust? The Allies? Not really... it makes them look worse, because they could have used their air military to frustrate these efforts and they did not. The Germans would have every reason to try and memory hole the holocaust. The Jews and other victims themselves? Maybe you find modern Jews who harp on the holocaust today quite tiresome, but those who experienced it often wanted to never discuss it; and accusing them of malingering is quite callous. What apparatus would the Jews have had anyway to push such an exaggeration? (real theories only, please.) A much-hated ethnic group that just had half its European population wiped out isn't in much of a bargaining position.
6 & 7. Is it a manipulation that zyklon B was used as a delousing agent and that delousing chambers existed?
Similarly, is it a manipulation that anne frank died of typhus in one of the hospitals at one of the camps?
Are you familiar with the fact that the typhus epidemic in the 1920's killed millions in russia during just 5 years?
8. Is it a manipulation that there's strong evidence that confessions were obtained under torture at the nuremberg trails?
3. How do allied photos of camps during operation prove any point besides the fact that there were camps, something that as far as I know stands undisputed?
3. Some photos are labeled and clearly show gas chambers, crematoria, and large swaths of people moving from the train ramp to the gas chamber. We also have some photographs of people on the way to the gas chamber, secretly taken by the sonderkommando and smuggled out of the camp. We have SS photos of the crematoria and gas chambers being built. The appearance of extermination camps is different from those of concentration camps: the former requires many fewer inmate barracks and many more crematoria.
I encourage you to read this monograph on Jstor which examines in detail the information we have from aerial photography. (You need to register to read, but you get 100 articles/mo free.)
6. Zyklon B was bought in huge quantities, far exceeding what would have been needed for delousing.
Additionally, Zyklon B used for insecticide purposes was prepared with a warning chemical that smelled like rotten eggs; the SS requested that their shipments be prepared without this chemical. This suggests the Zyklon B was being used for the purpose of gassing humans, for whom the drug is actually more toxic than it is to insects. Which is another suggestive fact; if the purpose was delousing why didn't the Germans choose a less human-toxic chemical? And if it's for delousing, why would they request the company omit an ingredient that was put there for safety?
6a. Delousing of inmates did happen at the camps, in seperate delousing gas chambers. Holocaust deniers like to conflate the two and suggest all gas chambers were merely for delousing; and the SS dynamited the extermination gas chambers to conceal their actions from the incoming Soviet army. (Edit: I've included an aerial photograph of an Auschwitz gas chamber in the process of being dismantled like I describe.) Unfortunately, the SS took pictures of the extermination gas chambers when they were built, and their internal documents prove they were there. I've included a photo of a combo gas chamber/crematorium built in Auschwitz, and I struggle to see how the building would have been used if not for extermination of large groups of people.
7. As for the presence of typhus in the camps; this is another common distortion to minimize the impact of the Holocaust. Please consider that I have already told you
the purpose of concentration camps like Buchenwald was to work inmates to death; they were given meager rations, slept in unheated dormitories while stacked close together, and had little access to sanitation.
Typhus was a feature, not a bug: it got weak people in the ground sooner, making space for new workers. The Germans knew it was there and they were fine with that, and I consider that negligence to be another feature of the holocaust's depravity. To them, Jews were subhuman, so it was good if typhus did some of their work for them.
8. Show me. IMO they sang like canaries and it didn't save their skin. None of the SS denied that the Holocaust occured; they only deflected responsibility up the chain of command.
There are two posters in this thread that exclusively post in this topic, that both signed up last year, within 3 months of each other. With both wanting to start podcast/youtube neetbux career. That both kept trying to get kiwifarmers to voice debate them. I think he's talking about them, not you.
I didn't think he was, I just find the notion that the deep state is paying people to post on Kiwi Farms laughable.
