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[CarlosDanger]

Bad in what sense? In terms of producing gasoline or any petroleum product?

Basically both, it is heavy as hell, high in sulfur, which is really bad for emissions, and it takes specialized refineries to even make the oil usable. This is why Venezuela has had such a hard time exporting oil in recent years, it just isn't worth the headache and money to refine it to be usable.

 

[Slappy McGherkin]

Bad in what sense? In terms of producing gasoline or any petroleum product?

Bad in the sense that it isn't sweet crude and the sulfur content is way too high.

I take it you've never driven through the Permian Base in Texas, Denton, Midland, Odessa along I-20. They burn the bad shit off before it hits the refineries. The whole trip through there smells like a huge nasty fart. It's eye opening to see all the dippers and true wells pumping sweet Texas crude, the gold standard, right out of the ground.

The amount of industry supporting this effort is astronomical as well. Miles of shops, specialized vehicles, rig builders all concentrated in one place, for one purpose - suck that sweet shit right outta the ground.

It could be turned back on in heartbeat, but it won't be. Go ask Joe why.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I think that's an overlooked fact. The trannies and drug addicts in the United States Military are still more murderous than Chinese bugmen.

More murderous, but not more competent. Right now, the US is banking on tech superiority to bluff its way at maintaining dominance. If that bluff gets called and that tech disparity fails to cover up for personnel incompetence and lack of recruitment numbers, American prestige will be called into more question and so would the alliances the US maintains with its vassal states. Especially since any future war the US is involved in will be the US as the aggressor.

Even more true for the west. China isn't competing against a culturally ascendant, demographically strong empire, America is fat, retarded and thinks that troons are women. The fucking delusion from your average Burger who thinks it's the 1980's and Xi is Gorbachev.

What does China have going for it?

A homogenous and culturally confident people.
The bulk of the planet's manufacturing.
An average IQ greater than 100.
No Mexicans (America) or Africans (Europe)

The rest can be fixed and likely will be. The west OTOH is fucked. We all know we're fucked and at best we will hunker down into a managed servitude or end up in a mass death civil war.

Unlike Pim Tool, I don't think real civil war is likely because of how fat we are. We are, however, doing our own version of Lie Flat called Remote Work. Even when companies aren't woke, there's still the general antagonism between employee and employer that creates a disloyalty feedback loop. America might actually bounce back if Hispanics are as based as optimistic projections indicate and Trump populism allows for enough autarchy to rebuild the Made in America brand. I find it unlikely when half of the country is more interested in handicapping such progress because ORANGE MAN BAD.

 

[thx1138]

I don't think that Munchie Moms make good warfighters.

The USA is unmatched in cussedness, but Chinese are unrestrained in their cruelty. If war were declared, I don't know who would fight meaner. And war, if it's anything, is a competition of atrocity.

The Chinese would nuke whole swaths of the US without even batting an eye. If they thought they could get off a decapitation strike and take the heartland and Southeast for the food they could produce there with imported labor, guess what Xi would order? Hint: it rhymes with "smaunch smuclear smissiles".

 

[Breadbassket]

The problem with your graph is the fact it cuts off at 2018/2019 and doesn't show the effect Trump had. For instance Trump got 38% of the Asian vote, 36% of the hispanic vote and 19% of the black male vote, and gained 5% with black women. Trump received the most minority support of any Republican since Nixon. This minority drift towards the Republican party started under Trump as Trump has started to build the Republican Party into the party of the working class. These trends take time to develop, it just doesn't happen overnight but there are results showing in Texas, Florida, and even California.

I will admit I didn't account for the 2020 election figures. We will see what you speak of will be real voting trends and not voting fads, as in when the Democratic Party presidential candidates in the near future don't suck as much will such a minority vote for the Republican Party wither away and once again vote for the opposition? For a similar past example, the man you said had the most minority support of any Republican before Trump, Richard Nixon did have some considerable success with black voters in 1968 (they were more significant as a voting bloc back in the 60s then say Hispanics) but in the 1972 election which was by all accounts an electoral slaughter for the Democratic Party, they still managed to get the black vote. With that said, I think Trump will win handily with minority support in 2024 if he runs, but beyond that the outlook seems for uncertain for future elections.

 

[Skullwhalejelly]

I don't think an election from 50 years ago is too relevant. Anyways....

Rassmussens showing a +8 spread for Republicans still. Funny that democrats are the rich suburban party tho.



Georgia Governor still showing Kemp ahead of Abrams +7

Georgia Senate +3 warnock but it actually is swinging more towards democrat as of late.

 

[CrippleThreat]

I don't think an election from 50 years ago is too relevant. Anyways....

Rassmussens showing a +8 spread for Republicans still. Funny that democrats are the rich suburban party tho.

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Georgia Governor still showing Kemp ahead of Abrams +7

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Georgia Senate +3 warnock but it actually is swinging more towards democrat as of late.

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Doesn't make a lick of sense, logically. Kemp can't be up by that much without Walker up as well, or dead even with Warnock, at worse.

There's ticket-splitting, but that right there, is impossible.

 

[Gehenna]

Damn thats surprising.

There was an article floating around a few months ago by a chinese woman who had a spot in the inner circle of the party as an academic. In the late 1980s she was allowed to read the banned books, and teach the incoming cadre on the partys philosophy.

long story short the CCP like political/socail organization needs to have a core group who loyalty/security is a given so they can function and do their job.

In case of chinese culture remember the emperor's court would literally murder the messenger. Combine that with the chinese autocratic authoritian, bend with face culture. It lends itself to nothing but dsyfunction. The one child policey fucking with demographics.

The currency controls, and policy that caused a huuge over investment in property which is now leading to a fucking repeat of lehman brothers. On top of it anyone who dares speak about the problem is a "trouble maker" like that the doctor who first reported covid etc.

Still I would figure the people you advice would want to know any liabilities that hang over their heads like if their son has a drug, woman, incest problem for example

Powerful people often dislike being told their faults. There is a reason The Emperor's New Clothes is meant to be a cautionary tale.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Doesn't make a lick of sense, logically. Kemp can't be up by that much without Walker up as well, or dead even with Warnock, at worse.

There's ticket-splitting, but that right there, is impossible.

Either Kemp is being repaid for his loyalty in the 2020 recounts or the DNC wants to keep Abrams manning the machines instead of getting delusions of grandeur.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

>How do we reach out to Mexicans

Understand which ones are actually from Central, South America, or the Tropics. After that give the Mexicans DBZ and free beer, some of them may want Code Geass or Bleach, but they’ll settle for DBZ.

Don‘t forget the King of Fighters series. Mexicans will crater you if you’re unprepared for them. That is their fighting game of choice.

 

[CarlosDanger]

Doesn't make a lick of sense, logically. Kemp can't be up by that much without Walker up as well, or dead even with Warnock, at worse.

There's ticket-splitting, but that right there, is impossible.

The polls are trying to push an agenda, not show what is actually happening. These are the same pollsters that had Biden up 8 in Florida and 10 in Ohio. Warnock won a runoff by 2 points, after Trump told everyone not to vote because the election is rigged. Two points in a suppressed turnout election, but somehow up 3 in an election where Republicans in the early going have had a major turnout advantage. The media's explanation for this also makes zero sense, they said Republicans are mad at Trump because Trump in 2020 told Republicans to stay home and this cost Republicans the Senate, so now the voters aren't going to vote for Walker because he is a Trump backed candidate and give the Democrats the Senate.....because?

 

[Exterminatus]

Powerful people often dislike being told their faults. There is a reason The Emperor's New Clothes is meant to be a cautionary tale.

Yep, I think there was a little tale of at least one Roman Emperor, I think Marcus Aurelius. Whenever he would get praise or adulation he had a personal assistant that would whisper in his ear "You are just a man, you are just a man." This was done to ensure that he didn't let the praise go to his head and think he was above it all when at the end of the day he was a flesh and blood man, a powerful one yes but nothing that a sword through his belly wouldn't take away from him. It kept his humility in tact.

 

[CarlosDanger]

I don't think an election from 50 years ago is too relevant. Anyways....

Rassmussens showing a +8 spread for Republicans still. Funny that democrats are the rich suburban party tho.

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Georgia Governor still showing Kemp ahead of Abrams +7

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Georgia Senate +3 warnock but it actually is swinging more towards democrat as of late.

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There have been only 5 polls in 3 months on this race and the spread is only 2.8%, and that is with a laughably bad Quinnipiac poll that has Warnock +10. Richard Baris actually posted about this poll, where the poll sampled basically Atlanta and the suburbs of Atlanta. Most people don't typically follow elections until after Labor Day, my guess is the polls that have Democrats up will magically tighten to a virtual tie going into the actual election. Also keep in mind these pollsters were telling everyone Democrats were going to gain a shit ton of seats in the House in 2020.

 

[XYZpdq]

Don‘t forget the King of Fighters series. Mexicans will crater you if you’re unprepared for them. That is their fighting game of choice.

I remember a couple of buddies who went as Ralph and Clark to some con during the early days of NeoGeo emulation
most of the people at the con didn't know who they were but holy fuck did the maintenance crew mark the fuck out for them

 

[Breadbassket]

Yep, I think there was a little tale of at least one Roman Emperor, I think Marcus Aurelius. Whenever he would get praise or adulation he had a personal assistant that would whisper in his ear "You are just a man, you are just a man." This was done to ensure that he didn't let the praise go to his head and think he was above it all when at the end of the day he was a flesh and blood man, a powerful one yes but nothing that a sword through his belly wouldn't take away from him. It kept his humility in tact.

Marcus Aurelius, as far as rulers of grand nations, is an interesting figure but also the exception not the rule. He wrote Meditations and was a Stoic philosopher which explains his mindset for many of his actions. Sadly, politicians/world leaders inclined toward maintaining their humility like him and not letting their ego go to their heads are in short supply these days.

 

[CrippleThreat]

The polls are trying to push an agenda, not show what is actually happening. These are the same pollsters that had Biden up 8 in Florida and 10 in Ohio. Warnock won a runoff by 2 points, after Trump told everyone not to vote because the election is rigged. Two points in a suppressed turnout election, but somehow up 3 in an election where Republicans in the early going have had a major turnout advantage. The media's explanation for this also makes zero sense, they said Republicans are mad at Trump because Trump in 2020 told Republicans to stay home and this cost Republicans the Senate, so now the voters aren't going to vote for Walker because he is a Trump backed candidate and give the Democrats the Senate.....because?

Summer polls are dogshit as always. Same polls that say that a Democrat (not named Sherrod Brown) has a shot in Ohio, post-Trump.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

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Not bad for her age. @The Last Stand I get it now

I stop reading the thread for a few days and @The Last Stand begins to form a cult.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

Joe gets smacked down by the courts again.

You would think these brain-dead advisors would stop and ask if the orders they create are legal and can be upheld, but I guess that requires foresight.

Every time these fools do something they just end up looking more and more incompetent.

 

[Woe-B-Gon (TM)]

You would think these brain-dead advisors would stop and ask if the orders they create are legal and can be upheld, but I guess that requires foresight.

Why would they ask that? They made it obvious that they don't care if it's legal. They get their way for months on end while it drags through the courts, and if the courts rule against them the worst that happens is that the people can ignore that specific diktat. They're not punished in any way, so they have no reason not to do it as much as possible.

 

[Confused Doggo]

A lefty friend of mine actually said we need to let child sex traffickers through the border, because there are just too many "good" illegal aliens who need our help and deserve to come here, so stopping child rape isn't worth the "cost." That's when I decided I never wanted to talk to a lefty about illegal labor practices again.

Please tell me this person doesn't have any children.